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Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 12:39 pm: | 
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has anyone converted their P.S. classic RR to the old Manual Steering?
i am sick of my leaking box, i already replaced it once and it's pouring out again.
i am thinking i should just eliminate this notorius weak spot and put in a manual box , like the ones came with in the early 1970's
does anyone know if it is a straight swap? or better yet, do you ahve the parts manual description for land rover part number
NTC8224
if everything measures out, i might just give it a try.
yes i'm aware of the issues off road, like a can rip my arms out of their sockts if i hit a rock and the wheel cut's
thanks
rd |
Dee
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 01:04 pm: |
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Your sick next you will want to remove the leather seats and AC |
James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy)
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 02:28 pm: |
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Hey Rob,
What kind of Rover are you creating out there?? Snorkels, manual steering, ??? Sounds like its going to be a Sea Rover! Can't be raining that hard in PA!
My manual steering on the 109 isn't really too bad off road. Around town trying to park the damn thing is a different matter. Especially parallel parking and the 109 is probably lighter than your RR. I replaced my RR steering box 6 years ago and it still is holding. Maybe you just got a bad replacement one.
Hey, we leave this Saturday. Send me a number that I can call you on when we get to 7-Springs.
Jaime |
hendrik
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 02:58 pm: |
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Jaime, do you have a 1-ton s/b ? it has a different ratio to the standard Series box. My experience differs to yours. Especially when driving in/out of a tight parking area.
Rob, I doubt you will be happy with the manual one.
?What if it happens to notice it is in a Rover and consequently starts to leak, too ?
I have the same problem with the steering box. the old one was leaking from the input seal. The exchange box from Rover is leaking also but I cannot trace it. The leak is so small and it is dry wherever the hydraulik pipes are screwed in. But the underside of the box is wet  .
The high pressure hose is new and tight, time to change the PAS fluid return hose. Somebody here mentioned his LRNA dealer has fixed a leak in this area that others before couldn´t stop. It´s possible that not the s/b itself causes the leak. |
James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy)
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 03:31 pm: |
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Hendrik,
I'm not really sure what we ended up with as it was changed to accomodate the space for a V8 conversion. Curious though about your comment. So yours is easy to park???
Jaime |
hendrik
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 03:57 pm: |
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sure, it is.
Point is I am inclined to be a fool and my bumpers sometimes make aquaintance with lamp posts, especially if the loadspace area is loaded up to the roof.
I had a 88" Series III. I´ve never been very happy with the steering box and brackets. Let someone turn the s/wheel while you look at the bulkhead in that area and how things can move. Having the box mounted at the strong part, the chassis makes more sense to me. BTW I found the SIII 88" was easy to park by terms of manouvrabilty. The Rangie is worse in this respect, probably topped by the 109/110". Talking about effortless turning of the steering wheel the Range/Disco is 1st.
(sorry if I sometimes make vague statements. I miss a little experience in writing/talking in english). |
James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy)
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 04:37 pm: |
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Hendrik,
Understand you without any problems. You're doing much better than I in your native language!
My 109 is a hybrid built on a 110 chassis vs original so feel sure it is very different set-up. Plus all kinds of weird stuff were done to even get the steering to work. Yes, agree my RR is much easier to maneuver than the 109 yet the 109 isn't that bad off road.
Had to drive the RR down a pass in Colorado without power assist as the engine died and it wasn't too bad. So I think if Rob gets the proper manual box he probably would be ok.
Jaime |
JB
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 05:05 pm: |
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I had the lower and hardest to get to PS hose - the one with the black coil stuff around it to keep from kinking - geting kinks which would cause bubbles in the res. and extra leakiness... I put brake fluid in the PS box regularly to stop leaks... Also always keep your wheels dead straight when stopped or the pressure build-up will cause leaks to appear or get worse..
Manual steering.... how about also cutting a hole in the floorboard and just Flintstone it over those rocks, forget the lt230... |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 05:24 pm: |
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bastards! you mock me 
like i said, it was just an idea, plus i see the manual boxes for sale in england for 50 pounds, i might just buy one to satiate my appetite for knowing.
i have noticed the lowert the fluid gets the quicker it pisses. my last box seems to just oooze oil, the one currently on there like to lean out from the bottom seal where teh drop arm is. it's just embarresing when everyday i leave work and ther is an obnoxiously big puddle under the car. i've created so many that now i cant tell if it all poured out or it was from the day before.
the ratio is supposedly 18:1 and that sounds fine.
as for AC and Leather. well i love me some AC and the damn thing is on of the few that didn't come with leather. i am looking to trade if anyone is up for it.
hendrik, i ordered those exhaust parts today, they'll be here next week. i'll let you know how they fit and take some photographs.
jamie, the snorcle for me , honestly more about fitting the 2nd battery and looking cool than it is for function. goddamn you all if i cant ahave a little poseur in me. wait till you see my tires, lol
rd |
Randall Smith
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 05:41 pm: |
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Rob
My 92RR was leaking at the bottom of the steering box, and this is how I fixed it:
I put two capfuls of brake fluid into the PS fluid. After a few days the leak stopped, because the brake fluid swells the seals. But the steering also firmed up quite a bit too, which caused me to think I had really screwed things up. So I removed the PS fluid and replaced it with syn auto trans fluid.
The tightness in the system went away, and the steering box has not leaked one drop since. That was probably 3 years ago. worth a try but don't blame me it yours doesn't seal up like mine did.
Randall |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 05:46 pm: |
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i have tried stop leak , but never brake fluid itself, i'll give it a shot, i feel i have nothing to loose
rd |
James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy)
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 06:40 pm: |
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I've seen that same suggestion on putting in PS fluid on other boards as well. Seems like others have had success doing the same.
One person I know here recommends and uses hydraulic fluid. His doesn't leak at all!
Yes Rob, I'm anxious to see this poseur RR of yours!
Jaime |
Ron
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 07:49 pm: |
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How about a scout II steering box?
Alyssa's disco is pretty much manual steering now, not too bad. Series is not bad either you just have to plan ahead.
Ron |
Norm
| | Posted on Friday, August 30, 2002 - 05:55 pm: |
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Rob --
Where did you get your replacement steering box?
I bought a rebuilt box for my Disco from Meridian Auto Parts in San Diego -- they have managed to solve the leak problem of Rover steering boxes and give a long warranty (lifetime?). My Meridian box has been in for a year or two and hasn't leaked a bit.
---Norm |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 12:18 pm: |
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i bought it from someone on the board. he said it didn't leak and i believe it didn't when he sold it to me. it's just bad freaking luck. about 1 month after i installed it is when the leaking began.
i am in contact with meridian and they sympathised with my situation and told me about the improvements. for their price, prepaid return shipping and they are buying my spare core off of me i am going to give this wacky power steering idea another go.
rd |
Dee
| | Posted on Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 02:26 pm: |
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Rob save your lunch money go with the Meridian remanufactured box, there price is still less than waht most of the bone yards want for a used / Junker and all said and done what you save by converting you will loose on drive comfort and the ease steering. I can speak for them personally at Meridian and they provide a great product... Integrity in the automotive world is rare... |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 05:18 pm: |
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dee, they quoted me a price less than what you told me it would be. i did mention your name as how i heard of them though.
rd |
Dee
| | Posted on Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 06:35 pm: |
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Every referral goes toward a replacement box, sort of like giving blood.. LOL |
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