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Peter Carey (Pcarey)
| | Posted on Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 01:19 am: | 
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I saw this eBay listing and thought I'd ask how he has it licensed here.
He came back with
Quote:THE PREVIOUS OWNER IMPORTED IT INTO HAWAII & HAD IT TITLED, LICENSED &
REGISTERED IN HAWAII. I BOUGHT IT & HAD IT FULLY TITLED, LICENSED,
REGISTERED & INSURED IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. NO PROBLEMS AT ALL IN FLORIDA
DOING THIS. THE VEHICLE IS IN MIAMI, FLORIDA. I KEPT THE HAWAII PLATE
ON THE CAR AS A MAKE SHIFT "VANITY" PLATE. I OWN THE CAR FREE & CLEAR &
IT IS TITLED IN MY NAME IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THANKS FOR YOUR
INTEREST..
Interesting...someone got 55 grand I can have (not borrow)?
pwc |
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
| | Posted on Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 01:46 am: |
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what is even more interesting is there was that yellow one a couple months ago that was imported into Hawaii and then brought to Miami where it was being sold on ebay, if my memory serves me right the seller is the same guy. Must be a loop hole in Hawaii somehow if this thing is indeed legal (which it probably isn't). |
Steve (Scrover)
| | Posted on Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 01:58 am: |
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He kept the Hawaii plates on 'cause the pictures were taken in Hawaii! Something doesn't ring true.
(Unless that's the famous Miami volcanic rocks!) |
Peter Carey (Pcarey)
| | Posted on Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 02:24 am: |
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The VIN does show on carfax with two records although I didn't look it up fully.
Admitedly, he only has two feedbacks on eBay and both as a buyer, then he sells a $55K car.
pwc |
Curtis N (Curtis)
| | Posted on Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 02:47 am: |
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Wow - $55K! Wow! lol... |
William C. Leek (Onionman)
| | Posted on Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 10:41 am: |
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Be careful here, guys. This vehicle still isn't legal. Importing vehicles into the US is NOT done under an individual state's authority. Importation is done under federal jurisdiction. If he got it into the country be any means, hook or crook or whatever, he could then get it licensed for operation in a state, because, at that point, the state basically doesn't care. But, it still isn't legal. If the feds find out about it, they could still take it away from him (or you) and impose a hefty fine. The states have authority to licensed vehicles, but not to approve their importation into the US. |
Peter Carey (Pcarey)
| | Posted on Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 11:56 pm: |
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So I shouldn't have sold my first born?  |
William C. Leek (Onionman)
| | Posted on Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 12:20 am: |
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That, of course, depends upon the first born. |
Steve Andrews (Sillybus)
| | Posted on Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 08:49 pm: |
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I have been doing some general research on this very topic as of late. There seem to be ways to get vehicles into this country legally even if they are not on the DOT Federalized Acceptance List or whatever its called.
Fortunately for me, my wife's family are all farmers and I am currently exploring the farm vehicle approach for importation. Not exactly positive this will work yet but I am still researching it.
It seems to be easy (and expensive) to get a 93 110 in since they are already on the list. You may still have to have some serious work done by professionals.
I'll keep you all posted on any new info I dig up. |
Max
| | Posted on Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 10:09 pm: |
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This is the exact same defender that was listed about a month ago. Same seller,same price, same plates,same picture etc.. Something is definately up with this guy! I was told that Defenders Had some sort of loop hole in Hawaii and from ther transporting a vehicle is just a matter of state to state. Registration of said vehicle is still problem. Now there is always ways around it but It would still be risky. Besides the person that I know of that did import a 93 110 Tdi only spent 30 something thousand vehicle, required mods, and importaion for the whole thing. |
Steve Andrews (Sillybus)
| | Posted on Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 11:04 pm: |
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Max - Do you have an email addy for this person? I would be interested in finding out some of the particulars of import. |
Peter Carey (Pcarey)
| | Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 10:10 am: |
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Just go to the ebay listing and post a question to him. He likes to type in ALL CAPS.
pwc |
muskyman
| | Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 10:20 am: |
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farm use does allow importation, but you get a non-transferable title
I know guys that have done it then applied for a replacement Title and then recieved a title that did not have the big non-transferable stamp
but I also know guys that have had very expensive vehicles siezed and n ot returned
wisconsin has some good personal use laws that can get you licensed...just dont ever try to sell the thing |
Steve Andrews (Sillybus)
| | Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 10:38 am: |
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Max: I meant your friend that did a personal import. I contacted the seller on eBay and he seems to be an ass. I told him that only the 93 was on the federalized DOT list and here is what he said:
Quote:THIS VEHICLE IS 100% LEGAL... IF YOU ARE NOT COMFORTABLE BIDDING , THEN SO BE IT. I TRULY TAKE OFFENSE TO YOUR ACCUSATIONS. I AM A RESPECTED BUSINESSMAN IN MY COMMUNITY & HAVE NO REASON TO INVOLVE MYSELF IN ANY TYPE OF FRAUD. IF YOU WANT TO BRING SOME FORM OF ACTION AGAINST ME OR REPORT ME TO DOT, I WILL SURELY INVOLVE MY ATTORNEY.
HAVE A NICE DAY.
NEIL GOODMAN
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muskyman
| | Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 11:21 am: |
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he may have it tottally legal...that does not mean that he can sell it to you and you then have it legal.
you can own and register just about anything...its the reselling that causes problems |
Camille (Gwagenbabe)
| | Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 11:23 am: |
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Well the only way i know of getting any sort of vehicle in2 the US that's less than 25 years old is to get it converted by a RI, with the DOT/EPA papers & all that stuff. The vehicle & the transport may not be that much, but the federalization sure as hell will be.
*Camille |
muskyman
| | Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 11:57 am: |
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I OWN THIS VEHICLE OUTRIGHT. IT IS TITLED, REGISTERED & LICENSED IN MY NAME. I DO NOT HAVE ANY OTHER INFORMATION ON THIS VEHICLE. IF YOU WANT TO PURCHASE IT, PLEASE BID. IF NOT, NO PROBLEMS...
NEIL
still stuck on cap lock
and not talking |
Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
| | Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 12:15 pm: |
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Someone ought to email him this back....
-L |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 12:17 pm: |
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call you local DOT and ask them what the registration process will entail for your 2001 110CSW TD5 you just bought from some guy who imported it.
P.S. it's a beautiful truck |
muskyman
| | Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 12:17 pm: |
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SO THAT YOU & I ARE CLEAR ON THE PARTICULARS OF THIS VEHICLE. I AM THE SECOND OWNER OF THE DEFENDER & WAS GIVEN A CLEAR TITLE. I THEN RECEIVED THE TRUCK IN FLORIDA & HAD IT TITLED, REGISTERED, LICENSED & INSURED IN MY NAME. I DRIVE THE VEHICLE EVERYDAY & HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEMS FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT WITH ANYONE. IT HAS BEEN SERVICED AT MY LOCAL LANDROVER DEALERSHIP & WELCOMED WITH OPEN ARMS. AGAIN, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BID ON THE TRUCK, BID W/ CONFIDENCE. I AM NOT LOOKING TO RIP ANYONE OFF OR CREATE PROBLEMS FOR POTENTIAL BUYERS. IT IS A BEAUTIFUL TRUCK, EITHER I WILL SELL IT OR HOLD ONTO IT FOR MY OWN USE. I AM NOT HARDPRESSED FOR THE CASH...
NEIL
neil...left side of the key board 3 rows up...push it once |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 12:23 pm: |
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sounds like this guy has a fever and the only cure is more cowbell.
rd |
Steve Andrews (Sillybus)
| | Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 12:57 pm: |
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cowbell? Or shouldn't I ask? |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 01:28 pm: |
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http://www.geekspeakweekly.com/cowbell/tunes/walkencowbell.mp3 |
Eric N (Grnrvr)
| | Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 01:35 pm: |
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Really though guys. When you think about it. As soon as you alter your suspension on your truck it becomes technically illegal for street use according to most laws. Most of us here are driving illegal trucks right now so if you got the money I would say buy it and who cares how you get it registered.. Call it a kit car, farm equipment, what ever. |
muskyman
| | Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 01:49 pm: |
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not really true eric
lifts only violate some state registration laws
the feds never could get the states to agree(thanks to SEMA) on a federal lift law so there isnt one.
now if you have messed with EPA equipment thats a whole new story.
fact is this guys a chump I been e-mailing him all day and he has very carfully skirted all the questions about the true status of the importation.
some guys think its a joke...then the feds show up and take your car/truck/airplane
I have a rich friend that got his FJ75 found and deported back to Canada...it does really happen
and 50k to someone that seams to love his trtuck but wants to sell it fast makes me suspicous.
there is no way most states will let this thing get registered
in IL where I am I know a guy that went to register a used BMW745turbo 30 days later he got a bill from the feds that was due for 5k for importation violations in 1988 ...three owners ago
computers are making this kinda stuff tougher
you are right about the kit thing and Farm exeptions but then you can not sell(reasign) the vehicle in most states.
legal bullshit can be just that...but when you step in it,it stinks just the same
Blue...cue the shit picture....lol |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 02:05 pm: |
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muskyman
| | Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 02:17 pm: |
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ROTFLMAO
disco web...ya gotta love it |
Eric N (Grnrvr)
| | Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 03:42 pm: |
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Illegal in your state is still illegal and will get you into trouble if you get caught. Here in VA we have a lift law which I'm already over. Plus, you aren't supossed to be driving around with sway bars removed, modified trailing links, and modified front arms. Which I am. Most states have the same type of laws. May not be Fed, but, still against the law anyways. Whatever though.. It's only against the law once you get caught. |
KJ
| | Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 06:05 pm: |
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LOL, damn Blue, do you work for a living????
Karen |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 06:58 pm: |
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no, I resell illegal autos on the internet. |
muskyman
| | Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 07:06 pm: |
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wow seeing that pic is so funny....because if you wade into the bullshit you may come out with a sweet defender110. |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 07:14 pm: |
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another thing (as Steve & others have noticed) is the fact that those pics were indeed taken in Hawaii. Florida is all carbonates, and the earth in the pics is clearly basaltic lava that makes up just about all of subaerial Hawaii (looks like a pahoehoe flow with a little crushed pahoehoe or maybe even a'a' in the pic of the rear of the 110). Of course, maybe they're just old pics... |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 07:22 pm: |
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YES! My interart has been appropriately summed up and duly appreciated by an obvious connoisseur. I went with a starburst pattern around the 110 to signify the beauty of the vehicle...but what is this enigmatic cloud that obfuscates our beloved Defender? It appears to be a pile of bullshit, but....it is difficult to decipher....need to think clearly....ahhhhhhhhh...forgive me, I have swooned.... |
Peter Carey (Pcarey)
| | Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 07:39 pm: |
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Musky, did you ask him about the pics? I'm sure he has a pat answer, but do it anyway for the entertainment, and because my caps lock key is broken.
pwc |
Steve Andrews (Sillybus)
| | Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 08:13 pm: |
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bwahahahaha |
muskyman
| | Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 08:24 pm: |
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blue...you smokin the maui wauwi?
your crackin me up here...way more then neils cap lock |
Steve (Scrover)
| | Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 08:24 pm: |
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OK, HERE'S ANOTHER oops sorry, OK, here's another observation. This is a 2001 so that means it's at least one maybe two years old, 2560 miles. Kinda low for a car that he states 'I DRIVE THE VEHICLE EVERY DAY..' Where? Up and down the drive? Afraid to take it on the street perhaps? Then he says 'IT HAS BEEN SERVICED AT MY LOCAL LANDROVER DEALERSHIP..' What did they do? Empty the ashtray!? It's not even ready for an oil change.
This guy's up to something, or maybe we're all just jealous 'cause we don't have one, goddammit! |
Kim S (Roverine)
| | Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 08:42 pm: |
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LOL, too much! good thread ... I can't stop laughing (again). Between the all caps, the fever/cowbell cure (one of my all time favorites, Rob), the bullshit, and the (funny as heck, but oh so true) observations above, I am dyin' here.
Kim |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 09:35 pm: |
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thanks kim it feels good to be noticed ;)
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Kim S (Roverine)
| | Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 09:49 pm: |
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LOL!! I'm saving this one.
Kim |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 10:39 pm: |
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is that john oates on the left?
rd |
Steve (Scrover)
| | Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 11:15 pm: |
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could be! However, I think the guy on the right is flippin' us off! Maybe it's his D110!
How about Don King on the drums? |
Peter Carey (Pcarey)
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 01:17 am: |
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Nah, dude thre is much younger looking that the current John Oates
pwc |
Tripp Westbrook (Tripp)
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 10:22 am: |
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Somehow I think NEIL isn't going to like this thread.
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Tripp Westbrook (Tripp)
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 10:23 am: |
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But myself, on the other hand...
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Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 12:12 pm: |
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Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 01:32 pm: |
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Steve (Scrover)
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 01:44 pm: |
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Only Daryl Hall would find that attractive! |
Steve (Scrover)
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 01:52 pm: |
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It's over, no bidders, hmmmm wonder why? I do know why it has 9 seats - so NEIL and the 8 Federal Marshalls can all ride together.
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Peter Carey (Pcarey)
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 03:04 pm: |
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Eric N (Grnrvr)
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 03:58 pm: |
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I've been a naughty boy and I would love to go back to her room... Wonder if she'll spank me.
Peter, you aren't catholic are you? Just wondering about the little boy coloring book there.. |
Peter Carey (Pcarey)
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 04:55 pm: |
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Peter Carey (Pcarey)
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 04:57 pm: |
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Nah, I'm not Catholic. Those people are nuts.
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