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Dave
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 08:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1858560239

New lower Buy it now price.....
 

Greg P. (Gparrish)
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 08:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Is that one actually legal for federal registration in the US?
 

Todd Sanders (Sanderskog)
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Strange. It's in CA now?

Todd
 

Eric N (Grnrvr)
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 09:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Probably just a lengthened D90 that some one built a custom rear box for. It surely isn't a real D130. So I would have to say it's probably registered as a D90.
 

Greg P. (Gparrish)
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Well, if it's a d90, how do you get a 93? I thought d90's were only imported 94-97.
 

Eric N (Grnrvr)
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Don't know, maybe it got built using pieces of this and that. The bed doesn't look right to me though. But, who knows. Maybe it is a 130 with a custom bed. Guess you would have to ask him/her.
 

Robbie (Robbie)
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

weren't the 110's '93 in the US? Also, it is a right-hand drive. so maybe it was imported as a 110 based on the fact that it is a '93 and that was a legal US year? still not sure if that makes it legal. looks like it could/should be registered as a "kit car" anyway.
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

a Tomb Raider wannabe...how sad
 

Peter Carey (Pcarey)
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I think someone needs to email this guy and pray he knows where his caps lock key is...

Sometimes when you ask people questions, they give you answers.

pwc
 

Peter Carey (Pcarey)
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Quite arguing whether it's a 130 or not. It obviously has the tag up front that say it is. :)

pwc
 

Dave
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

yeah, duh....
 

Greg P. (Gparrish)
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I simply wanted to know if it was legal or not. I don't care if it is a true 130 or a home assembled version. Just curious for my own knowledge how it could be registered here. That's all. :)
 

Peter Carey (Pcarey)
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Fine, I'll go ahead and ask him about it. If he uses all caps, someone's going to pay.

pwc
 

RVR OVR (Tom)
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Is it just me or do the pictures seem to be of two different trucks? (i know it is not the tomb raider one.)

Blue truck - http://ebay3.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_310357ee0ddebb57597e7689552f44d7/i-1_B.JPG

White truck - http://ebay3.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_310357ee0ddebb57597e7689552f44d7/i-3_B.JPG


????
 

Peter Carey (Pcarey)
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

That's just the glare off of something white (like the doors behind it) on the light gray paint, it seems. I sent the guy this email:

Quote:

Hello,
I have a question about your Defender for sale. I like the looks of
it, but was under the understanding that the Defender 110 was the only
legally imported Defender in 1993. Can you tell me how this 130 got
into the country and if it has the proper Customs paperwork?

thanks!
pwc




For reference sake, the "I like the looks of it" comment was to act nice, so he doesn't turn hostile like the 2001 D110 guy.

pwc
 

Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I know I'm asking for people here to speculate but shouldn't (or wouldn't) the D130 as well as D90 be legal to import for vehicles built in 1993? Technically I think you can import a 1994MY vehicle if it was built in 1993. Why I say this is because the 25 year rule applies to 25 years since date of manufacture not model year. And the D130 and D110 (as is the D90) are the same vehicle with different wheelbase. I don't think BMW (or Audi) had to certify both the 740i and 740iL just because one was 10cm longer than the other. And I don't think limo makers need to certify each new limo because they made the wheel base longer. Or am I off base here? When importing couldn't you just call it a Defender and leave it at that?

If that's true then one could petition for a 1997 Defender and import D110's too.
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Nice street tires and plastic Wal-Mart lights
 

Jeremy Katka (Jkatka)
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 03:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Glad that got out of Seattle... I think this guy bought it off ebay for like $14k from someone up here. I think that the truck bed is a "rapier" bed they used for hicap 127's
 

Paul Clay
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Al,

You are correct on the MY v date of manufacture idea, however, the rest of your idea is in conflict with NHTSA policy. A few years ago, I asked Luke Loy@ NHTSA about the '93 d110 v '93 d90 idea you just proposed. The official response, was that no a d110 is not a d90 with an extra 17.1" and vise versa. The body structure is different. The fuel system/location is different. The rear suspension is different. the rear body/frame is different...ad noseum. His/NHTSA's position was that to be legal a '93 d imported through an RI would need to be IDENTICAL to, not just looks similar to the NAS '93 d110; including a special brace on one of the cross members included on the NAS 110 frames, which was not inlcuded on any other 110 from any other market or year or model variant.

Cheers,
Paul
 

Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Bummer... do you know if anyone has petitioned for a 1994-1995, 1997 D90 yet? I had an URL for the vehicles that have had been approved but I can't seem to find it anymore.
 

Paul Clay
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

As of June 2002, tehonly LR which have been petitioned for import are the '93 110 via VSP 212 and '94-'98 Disco via VSP 338. However, somone *might* have a d90 petition in process. You would have to ask NHTSA.

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/ELIG0206.html

Cheers,
Paul
 

Tripp Westbrook (Tripp)
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 06:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

So this means that you can import a '93 D 110 without making any modifications?

Or does it mean that you can, but have to make mods?

Just trying to understand it all.

T-
 

Paul Clay
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 06:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Any '93 110 that was not originally manufactured to NAS spec would need to be IDENTICAl to a NAS spec '93 110, after the RI has done their work. ie there is a whole slew of things that would need to be modified. If you want specifics, let me know. I have the hardcopy list at home.

Cheers,
Paul
 

Peter Carey (Pcarey)
Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 01:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

And the resonse from the guy selling it:

Quote:

hi
sure. i have a title and all paperwork.
they have import from uk.
thanks for interested.




people selling trucks on eBay don't seem to give up a lot of info easily. I've asked more questions.

pwc
 

Dave
Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 08:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Holy Shit, now it doesn't even have a Reserve price....LOL

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1860335473
 

Peter Carey (Pcarey)
Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I'm guessing it will go for about $6812.39 give or take...

pwc
 

perroneford
Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"Any '93 110 that was not originally manufactured to NAS spec would need to be IDENTICAl to a NAS spec '93 110, "


That's not exactly true, but it sure makes things easier.

-P

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