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Chuck P
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 04:18 pm: |
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Hey guys Ive been looking at the D90 and the Disco I love the open feel of the D90 and this vehicle would be used primarly off road, only driven or put on a flatbed to offroad area. Im wondering if you guys think that the D90 is justified in the basically $20,000 more. Im looking at the 97ish disco amd the 97 D90s. I plan to put mods on either of them and mostly go through water and mud but also do some rock crawling. Please let me know your opinions as I find this board a wealth of infomation. |
   
Sean Hanagan (Seanh)
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 04:50 pm: |
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D90 |
   
Eric N (Grnrvr)
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 05:18 pm: |
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I don't know, 20 grand worth of good mods on a disco and it's going to stomp that D90. stock vs stock I would say the D90 but, stock D90 against nicely ($20,000 worth) modded Disco and that is a whole different story for the same amount of money. Guess it all comes down to how much money do you got.. If you don't care about the extra 20 grand then get the 90 and then spend even more money on it. If I was going to buy a "Trail Only" ride I wouldn't get either one. I'd be thinking Mog.. |
   
Dave
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 05:25 pm: |
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I'm going 90. I have a DII. I love it. But always wanted the 90 deep down inside. Yes, poseur I may be. So I'm selling the DII. I'm now focusing on making the 90 I just bought my only ride, trail and road. I probably would not have ever made the switch except for the recent drop in 90 resale value. Otherwise, it seemed out of reach. |
   
Sean Hanagan (Seanh)
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 05:33 pm: |
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You should have no problem getting a 97 D90 for less than $30k. If your lucky you could find one with some good mods built into the price. There are a ton of posers out there with some wicked rigs. For $4k you can have 3" of lift, some 35's, two ARB's and you can run anywhere you want. Plus you won't have to drive around with D90 envy |
   
Sean Hanagan (Seanh)
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 05:37 pm: |
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I took this from the D-90 source. This is very typical 97 D90 Limited edition 75,000 miles, willow green, factory racks and ladders, ARB f&r,35' bfg muds, rockware rear suspinsion,arb bumper with mile marker, normal landrover rust, hellas front and rear, 6 disk changer gps.... located in ft collins colorado 26,500$ call Jeff at 970 988 1409 |
   
Chuck P
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 05:41 pm: |
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Can the D90 handle water better than the Disco? Ive seen the pics of those D90s running pretty deep for a distance, because I would like something that could go through water without too much trouble. |
   
Danno (Danno)
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 05:50 pm: |
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get a disco and spend the $20,000 to put a diesel in |
   
Chris von Czoernig (Chrisvonc)
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 08:36 pm: |
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As an owner of both a modified disco and a modified D90, for general all around use, long trips, and economics, my opinion is the disco is a better choice. Some edges our disco has over our 90: - more room - more comforable - Longer gas range - Accomidates more than 2 people easier without compairison. - More interior security than our soft top 90 for those trips out to the city. - A lot warmer in the winter than our soft top. Edge our D90 has over the disco: - Soft top, soft top, soft top. Nothing like cruising around with the sides and/or the top all off. - D90 blows our disco off the line. The lighter truck with the same engine even though it has larger tires simple jumps off the line. (we have a 94 D90 5-speed) - Its a lot lighter than our disco which can be a plus out on the trails. For general all round wheeling capibilities, its a call of personal preferance. Both trucks have plus and minus that the other doesnt which apply in all the terrains. Longer or shorter wheel bases have both plus and minus in rock but the shorter lighter 90 would be better for large rock crawling. If both trucks are simarly equiped, the reality is, if the driver is good and careful, both trucks will get through the trail. Chuck, if you have a minute, email me privately. Chris von C [email protected] |
   
JC
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 09:38 pm: |
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Man with 20k in add on money, I could build an absolutly wicked Discovery Actually in the process of that now... unless I'm able to get this FJ40 I found for free, then I'll have a real dilemma. Though I'll be the first to admit, if I could get a D90 I would. |
   
Ho Chung (Ho)
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 11:58 pm: |
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chris, good comparison there. but let's face it, facts aside, which one is sexier? that is truely the question. if you can indeed afford the sex machine, by god go for it.
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Chuck P
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 12:17 am: |
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lol Ho, nice cheerleader pic. Your disco was my inspiration, I love what you have done with it, you have a truly nice disco. I like that yellow color it just goes good with rovers. |
   
Ho Chung (Ho)
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 12:50 am: |
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well chuck, you can't have my disco, so go get that D90. |
   
Chuck P
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 12:52 am: |
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LOL, how does your disco handle going through water, that was my main concern for the disco because I am in Florida and we tend to have lots of water, sand, and mud. |
   
Ho Chung (Ho)
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 12:59 am: |
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i hate water. so i wouldn't know. get a submarine. LOL |
   
Chuck P
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 01:00 am: |
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Hahaha a yellow submarine with an XD on the side |
   
Ho Chung (Ho)
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 01:03 am: |
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shit man, don't get me ideas. |
   
Steve (Scrover)
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 01:16 am: |
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Chuck P
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 01:26 am: |
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hahahaha you got that image fast.. maybe I need to pull up photoshop and do a little image editing between that and ho's xd =) |
   
Steve (Scrover)
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 01:32 am: |
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i WISH i had photoshop! |
   
Chuck P
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 01:41 am: |
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I think I should take that pic, blow up the sub, put the rover stickers and XD on it, then put Ho in the center waving. |
   
Steve (Scrover)
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 01:51 am: |
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yea, go for it!
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Greg Davis (Gregdavis)
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 09:46 am: |
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Chuck, Ho's Disco handles carwashes just fine!
And it's kinda cute, too.  |
   
John Kruger (Johnnyk)
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 12:05 pm: |
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I have been in nearly 3 feet of water with the Yellow Beast, but only for a few seconds on a hard bottomed river. You would need alot of mods to be able to stay in deep water. H20 and Gas don't mix well together! I would love a D90, but the Disco is too comfortable and can carry alot more than the D90, but if I could have a D90 and a D110, then that would be all I would need. Anyone want to donate one to my cause? You can start by sending your cash donations to my paypal account. HA |
   
Chris von Czoernig (Chrisvonc)
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 12:50 pm: |
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Ho... I get wood for both so thus my delemia. CVC |
   
Sean Hanagan (Seanh)
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 01:25 pm: |
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Chris, there's no wood in a Defender |
   
Dee Cantrell (Discodad)
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 01:47 pm: |
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Id like to get a 109 so ill make you all a deal buy my Diff-Guards to contribute to the cause... LOL |
   
Kim S (Roverine)
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 04:13 pm: |
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oh man. Speaking of D90 ... I had so much strength ... trying to make Greg see the light that at this time, we CANNOT afford one (i am not going to sell any organs, or work on the street, LOL) So I'm out on my bike today around lunch time, going through a parking lot in a little obscure center ... not very many vehicles ... except ... a beautiful yellow '97 D90 (soft top). Very clean. Auto trans, completely stock (looks like it's never been offroad - even the lights in the stock brush bar were Genuine LR) It was sooooo clean. My friend that was with me said, "why do you want a jeep?" "Kim, what if the owner comes out and sees you under his jeep?" You're right Ho, it must be sex appeal. I couldn't tear myself away. I just don't get it. LOL Kim still wouldn't get rid of the Disco, but man, it sure would be something to have one of each  |
   
RVR OVR (Tom)
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 05:52 pm: |
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Everything else aside, back in 97 I had a choice of Disco or Defender. I chose the Disco because it was more comfortable, better attuned to taking out clients, and more of a "family" car for my upcoming marriage. If I only could go back in time. All other things aside, I wish I would have bought the 90 for one simple reason: the resale value. Back in 2000-2001 when even beat to hell D90's were selling for 40K I would have sold it and built a Series and bought a new Disco and still come out ahead. Now, if I still had it today, it could be sold for 25K or so and could still easily finance a well setup series and used Disco and/or one of them wiht money to spare. I feel like I simply bought the wrong stock. Symbol D90 has maintained while symbol DSCO has dropped to the bottom with my past employers. LOL. Tom |
   
Dee Cantrell (Discodad)
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 06:19 pm: |
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Tom the D90 would look much more at home parked up at your Cabin... My wife hates the Disco, I bought it for her, long story. Well I inherited it last year after i parted out the Rangie now that I have got it almost the way i want it. She keeps pining on me to sell it, every time she see's a Defender she say's why dont you sell that chick car and buy a D-90 those are SEXY cars... What's a guy to do Those 2003 ones in this months Land Rover Owners rag sure look nice... |
   
Dee Cantrell (Discodad)
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 06:20 pm: |
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Was that you the had the cabin Tom? |
   
RVR OVR (Tom)
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 09:17 pm: |
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Wrong Tom. If anybody wants to give me a cabin, I'll take it. As an aside, my wife never liked the Disco either, although she was against the D90 and for the Disco at purchase time. She feels the Disco I isn't very comfortable, but liked the DII when we went to take a look since it has better seats. Tom |
   
Dee
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 09:51 pm: |
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Yeah i was thinking of Muskyman, well i too would love a cabin maybe ill put log siding on my Motor Home |
   
Steve Andrews (Sillybus)
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 09:57 pm: |
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That's funny. Dee, I was in Atlanta last summer heading out towards Athens and I saw a mobile home manufacturer on the highway that specialized in making double-wide log trailers. |
   
Kim S (Roverine)
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 09:59 pm: |
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See the thing with me about the Disco II is ... it's the family wagon ... Very comfortable, haul the kids around, and still haul a slight amount of a**, when we're on a little excursion. But ... that D90 ... that's what I want (gggrrrrrraaalll ) LOL, Don't anyone tell Greg that, hehe ... I would then have to get a real job - Then neither of us will have time for it, LOL Kim  |
   
RVR OVR (Tom)
| Posted on Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 01:32 pm: |
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Think about it this way, Kim. When the little ones get older, you can have a family fun filled hack fest on the Disco when it is long paid off. Chop the back off, put up roll bars, and make a DII open top rear safari fun car. Better than a D90. My DI will see such a fate someday if it lasts long enough. Tom |
   
Eric N (Grnrvr)
| Posted on Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 03:15 pm: |
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Tom, you aren't the only one thinking about a soft top Disco. I'm just not sure I will want to spend the amount of money to do it right though. But, it's still some thing that I think about. I too went to the dealer back in 98 and it was between the Disco that I have now and a nice 97 Coniston D90 soft top. I still some times kick myself for not getting the 90 but, at the same time I'm glad that I didn't cause I really like my Disco. |
   
Ron
| Posted on Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 06:44 pm: |
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As a "sexy" rover addict, you will never be happy. 110 Dormobile Disco kitted to the max Series truck on portals What do I get now: Really old US spec series I! My big thing is run what you brung. Ron |
   
Sean Hanagan (Seanh)
| Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 10:47 am: |
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And you guys think a D90's top leaks. Hmmmmm,Hmmmm. All kidding aside there is a top manufacture in Farmington,NM who mignt be able to make you a top. Q from the D-90 source had a top made for a choped G wagen. Check with him for info. |
   
RVR OVR (Tom)
| Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 12:43 pm: |
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Off the topic. What exactly does run what you brung mean? Don't drive your friends car? Don't secretly hide a different truck in the bushes the night before and switch on the trail? What else would you run? |
   
gp (Garrett)
| Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 12:52 pm: |
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i am betting Ron has a Delorian with solid axles and 36" swampers and KC Dayliters hiding in the bushes ready for the next MAR. or maybe a nice AMC Pacer long bed 6X6 for hunting trips. or maybe even a 70's style Dune Buggy in a nice bass boat fleck paint green!!! possiblities are endless really. |
   
Ron
| Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 12:59 pm: |
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Be happy with what you have and RUN it rather than whine and wait till you get something else or improve what you have. Ron |
   
Eric N (Grnrvr)
| Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 01:32 pm: |
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well, my disco is all I got so I have to run it.. I could bring my mountain bike but, let's face it. I'm just to damn lazy to be riding my bike around when I can just drive. |
   
gp (Garrett)
| Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 02:28 pm: |
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hey ron. that is a verse from a Southern Culture on the Skids tune called Dirt Track Date!!! just ask Leslie. love that tune. |
   
Mohan (Mohan)
| Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 03:28 pm: |
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Can someone tell me what year this truck would be? And what year D90 is a good one to go after? The newer the better? image{ } |
   
Mohan (Mohan)
| Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 03:29 pm: |
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Mohan (Mohan)
| Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 03:30 pm: |
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oops
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Chris von Czoernig (Chrisvonc)
| Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 04:16 pm: |
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It appears to be a '94. The tip off is the front lower turn signal lenses. The turn signals on a '95 - '97 are larger than the upper lenses. '94's actually have the front turn signals on the front bumper and the lower lens next to the headlights are extra running lights. CVC |
   
Sean Hanagan (Seanh)
| Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 05:31 pm: |
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94 for sure, Chris is spot on with the signals. The grill and bumper are not original. |
   
Ho Chung (Ho)
| Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 05:36 pm: |
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i dont' know man, it looks like some 84 model. LOL |
   
Mohan (Mohan)
| Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 06:12 pm: |
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Cool - thanks. I figured that bumper wasn't stock - as for the grill - looks like there isn't one! I think that's the rad in the pic! Very cool looking machine. Is that air intake in the hood an addition too? And where can I find more info so I can i.d a defender and find out more about what to look for and watch out for? Any websites recommended for that kinda info? I have a 96 Disco and I used to have a 66' 109 IIa, but I have to admit I'm pretty ignorant on anything about Defenders. Were there any diesels brought over to North America? What years had what size/type engine? What's the seating arrangement in one? Are there back seats in them or just folding jump seats? Lastly - someone mentioned that the market price on them has dropped a bit lately - why is that? Sorry for all the questions.... Stephen |
   
Ho Chung (Ho)
| Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 07:53 pm: |
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do i have to ask again about D90 envy here? LOL face it guys, it's more than off road ability. it's about ownership of the sexy little D90. which cost more than the disco and it's out of most people's reach. that's why all this yapping goes on and on. otherwise, everyone would be driving a yellow softop. LOL |
   
Sean Hanagan (Seanh)
| Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 08:42 pm: |
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Yellow, Ho Thats for X-terras and Escapes LOL. To answer the man's questions: No diesels Soft top has bench Wagon has fold ups (inward facing) I bought one from LRCS for less than 22k 78k miles and awful tight. |
   
Chris von Czoernig (Chrisvonc)
| Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 09:47 pm: |
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The D-90 Source (http://www.d-90.com) might be a good starting point. Chris von C |
   
Eric N (Grnrvr)
| Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 09:55 pm: |
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Hell Ho, why would i want to get a used D90 when I can get a brand spanking new Jeep Rubicon.. It's soft top, sexy, and locked. I like D90s but, I sure don't have D90 envy.. I am starting to like the little Jeeps more and more.. Does that mean that I'm going to burn in hell now for liking a Jeep better then a D90? If so who's got the marshmallows? Cause I'm getting a Rubicon in 2 years if they are still making them.. Then I'll have a real problem.. Which one to take out on the trails.. Maybe switch off every other weekend or some thing. |
   
Chris von Czoernig (Chrisvonc)
| Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 10:00 pm: |
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Eric, you judas... you should already be feeling warmer. hehe |
   
Eric N (Grnrvr)
| Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 10:07 pm: |
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Ya, I know.. I'm a sinner.. The dark side of the force is strong. But, no matter how much I like the little rubi I'll never give up the Disco. |
   
Sean Hanagan (Seanh)
| Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 10:26 pm: |
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There ain't nothing sexy about a Rubicon! It might be soft it might be locked and it might be under factory warranty but it's missing one thing, Character. Can I get an amen? Hee,Hee |
   
Eric N (Grnrvr)
| Posted on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 10:42 pm: |
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Oh, is that what that is called.. Character huh.. |
   
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 09:31 am: |
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that rubicon is bad ass, are they for sale yet? probablt one of the most capable out of the factory offroaders ever built. rd |
   
Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
| Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 09:42 am: |
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If not, someone here in town made a replica of one and has been driving it around..... Hey, I like Jeeps enought that I still haven't brought myself to getting rid of my FSJ, like I've been needing to do for the past couple of years.... -L |
   
muskyman
| Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 09:58 am: |
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is the rubicon as mythical as the electro locker it is said to come with? the 4x4 world has been waiting for years to see the electric locker really show up. tom, "What exactly does run what you brung mean?" it means drive what you have to the complete end of its limits and shut-up about what else is out there. kinda close to my favorite "its more fun to drive a slow car fast then a fast car slow" |
   
Eric N (Grnrvr)
| Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 11:58 am: |
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Yes, I think that they are selling them. I believe a dealer near me had two of them but, sold them before I could go look at them. |
   
Blue (Bluegill)
| Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 12:26 pm: |
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I heard it can fly |
   
Andy Nix (Andy)
| Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 01:54 pm: |
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Disco. |
   
Sean Hanagan (Seanh)
| Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 09:24 pm: |
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Great Jeeps are built not bought! I beliieve that is the Jeep mantra. They may have to change that HUH? |
   
Dave
| Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 07:40 am: |
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0% financing on Jeeps right now......mmmmm |
   
Sean Hanagan (Seanh)
| Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 01:34 pm: |
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The word is the Rubicon is going for a mere $32,000. AS IF! |
   
Dave
| Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 01:39 pm: |
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WHAT??!???!??!?!? 32K? I can't believe it. |
   
Blue (Bluegill)
| Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 01:44 pm: |
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32? damn. just buy a stocker, regear, and add your own damn lockers. what else does the "rubicon" have (besides maybe a chrome "Rubicon" logo and swanky pinstripes)? |
   
Eric N (Grnrvr)
| Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 01:44 pm: |
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A guy from a club list that I'm on test drove one yesterday and it was going for 28K and change I believe. |
   
Blue (Bluegill)
| Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 01:48 pm: |
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reminds of the window sticker on the showroom floor wranglers they always have in the dealerships: MSRP - $20,000 dealer added extras: super stereo - $1000 chrome rims - $3000 chrome tube bumpers & steps - $2000 extra special paint - $3000 blah - $1000 blah - $1000 and more blah - $1000 TOTAL - $32,00 (yes, we're serious, please stop laughing) |
   
Eric N (Grnrvr)
| Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 02:39 pm: |
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Same can be said about any car/truck/suv.. Land Rover does the same thing only they start the price higher for the same crap. What's the difference? |
   
Sean Hanagan (Seanh)
| Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 04:08 pm: |
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Sounds like the Grnrvr may soon be the Grnheep |
   
Eric N (Grnrvr)
| Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 04:26 pm: |
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I like both Rovers and Jeeps so you just never know. I'm keeping the Disco though regardless of what I get next as a second car. |
   
p m
| Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 04:40 pm: |
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Blue, one thing about the rubicon is that it's got 1/2 ton hardware on a 1/4 ton truck. and yes, you can do lockers yourself, ditto for the lift and tires, but you lose the warranty (which is a part of the sticker price). The next thing (my favorite) is to find a complete beater and build it up - but i am yet to come across such a build-up that is anywhere close to be called reliable. so the TJ rubicon (i heard of one for 27k in cali) is likely to be the best stock off roader, in nearly any respect but kids' carrying capability. and Sean, i keep hearing the same thing about character... also, rarity and uniqueness... where i live, you'll see three rovers on every block as you drive. of any model or vintage. a disco is so much of a soccer-mom-mobile here that my kids really liked to ride in the rangie, now that became so common that a 68 Wagoneer is what they want to be seen in! peter |
   
Blue (Bluegill)
| Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 06:15 pm: |
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I live & work by ASU - 50,000 students and 49,000 of them drive Wranglers with the standard body lift, brushed aluminum rims, and BFG ATs (and stock spare donut). The only variation is the paint color. You can't sneeze around here without plastering a booger on one of 'em. Eric, "stock Disco" is a much different story than "stock wrangler" - you don't have to add all that crap, it's already there. |
   
Will Bobbitt (Rkores)
| Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 06:38 pm: |
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Blue, I live in Clemmons NC, close to Winston Salem. Are you going to MAR? If so, we need to convoy. Also have you seen a Yellow D-90 Softop up there? It has a OME HD's, BFG MT's Safari Gard Front, and a roof rack. It is James Broyhill's, he is on the football team, and is a friend. I know what you mean about the Wranglers up there too, they are exactley like you described them. Will Bobbitt [email protected] |
   
Blue (Bluegill)
| Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 07:41 pm: |
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Hey Will, I meant Arizona State University But that's the beauty of the Jeep Wrangler - they're ubiquitous and identical...kind of like a number 2 pencil... |
   
Eric N (Grnrvr)
| Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 08:41 pm: |
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Well, around here it's Disco 2s.. Damn things are every where. All soccer moms for the most part. They all bought them so that they could feel more important then their next door neighbor. At least most of the Jeeps I see every day have a nice light brown coating on the under side. Almost all the Disco's I have seen are nice and clean. Telling me they have only seen pavement. Blue, your Jeep sticker example is the same for a Disco. Upgraded stereo, brush bars, steps, and all the other crap are add-ons at the Rover dealer. It's all the same no matter what you get. I'm just happy that some one is building some 4x4s to use off road not some 4x4s to look like you offroad while at the mall sipping the extra mocha chino lato. |
   
Sean Hanagan (Seanh)
| Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 09:42 pm: |
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Peter, Some of the "character" I speak of does come from the fact that there are fewer of us out there. I live in a rural county in the mountains of Colorado and just like Blue I see jeep after Jeep after Jeep all day long. I think the make a fine vehichle but it does nothing for me. Hey if Barbie had one how cool could they be? Good luck with the Rubi |
   
p m
| Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 09:59 pm: |
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LOL Sean, i know what you mean. Most San Diego 4x4 clubs won't take on their runs anything in but baby jeeps and FJ40s, and I wouldn't take either just to be different. So I have two big jeeps and two rovers, spaced nearly evenly over three decades - 68,79,89, and 96. but, as far as wheeling goes, the baby rubicon can hold its own. peter |
   
Sean Hanagan (Seanh)
| Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 10:20 pm: |
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Cleaning a hard core trail in a built Jeep/FJ=HO HUM. Cleaning a hard core trail in a 89 RR while Jeepers' jaws gape open=PRICELESS. That is what I mean by character. I love when I clean a tough section and the crowd with there heads tilted at 45 degrees or so ask is that thing stock? and I smile and say "Yup" |
   
Gregg
| Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 10:21 pm: |
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I personally love my stock GEO Tracker! It kicks but and handles even the steepest speed bumps. |
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