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Gregg Smith (Discogregg)
| | Posted on Friday, September 20, 2002 - 08:22 pm: | 
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Apparently there have been quite a few issues with the Jeep Liberty and it's stability. It seems that with the introduction of the new Renegade model, all new Libertys will be at least 1 1/2 inches lower in ground clearance! |
Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
| | Posted on Friday, September 20, 2002 - 09:12 pm: |
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Don't you just wish we NHTSA would really solve the roll over problem by making roll overs survivable and not try and guess how likely it is to roll over? I know plenty of cars that will roll very easily. I'm worried how this will affect the TJ and other's like the Disco. |
Gregg Smith (Discogregg)
| | Posted on Friday, September 20, 2002 - 09:34 pm: |
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I think that with certain vehichles out there survivability is already achived.
http://www.tombec.com/rover/ You will probably have to cut and paste this. I have owned CJ, YJ, TJ wranglers and a '97 Disco. I currently own a 2002 Freelander SE. I think that unfortunately there are always going to be trade offs. I miss my Disco for many reasons but I love the fact that my Freelander is so great on the highway and since my offroading is limited to about once a month I don't mind the limitations that much. Besides, the Freelander is much better in rain and snow and non rutted mud than any Jeep or even the Disco. |
Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
| | Posted on Friday, September 20, 2002 - 09:51 pm: |
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Wow... I'm glad no one was hurt in that. But I would hope the A-pillar is better in the D2's. I've seen Z3 roll overs where the hood and windshield were toast but the frame of the windshield was very much holding it form. I understand that a roadster is very different but take a look at the A pillar from the inside of an X5 if you get a chance to see what I'm talking about. This is what the Disco's should look like. |
Todd Sanders (Sanderskog)
| | Posted on Friday, September 20, 2002 - 10:49 pm: |
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You know, as bad as those pictures look they are not that bad. Try doing 55mph and rolling in a Trailblazer, Tahoe, Explorer, or any other SUV out there. No thanks. I'll stick with my D1. |
Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
| | Posted on Friday, September 20, 2002 - 10:53 pm: |
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lol.... no kidding. I will always have that nice new loaner Blazer I got when I dropped off my D2 for service. The POS would rattle so bad I swear I could see movement in the B-pillar every time I hit a bump. |
Tommy Dougherty (Skydiver)
| | Posted on Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 05:48 am: |
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Hey.... those are my photos - taken the day after, at the impound yard it was towed to. I swear I wasn't even sore after that mess. We all went to the hostpital afterwards, but I didn't even let them check me out... I knew I was fine. All of us made it out A-Ok. We were all out of the truck & sitting on the guardrail by the time anyone (ambulance, police, firetrucks,etc) showed up.. They were like 'oh my god, who was in there???'. I told them 'we were...'. You should've seen the looks on their faces. Nobody who arrived on the scene could belive that anyone could have survived & that we weren't hurt. I got alot of 'man, you've got someone looking out for you' & 'you must have bigger things to do in life', but I think that if I hadn't been driving my Disco, and we were in the same situation, that me & my family wouldn't be here.
Now, about the a-pillar. It stopped 'crushing' less than 1" from my head, and about 2.5" from my wife's (in the front passenger seat.) I don't know how it 'should' have performed (I have heard alot of comments about how badly it did perform), but I'm thankful none-the-less that it stopped when it did.
I replaced my DI w/ a 2001 DII.
I'll trade off gas mileage for being in a tank w/ my family.
As a little funny aside.. We were coming back from the State Fair and we had our digital camera. I was trying to take photos of it upside down, but the damn camera wouldn't work (it got thrown out of the truck onto the pavement). The rescue folks really thought I was nuts for trying to take pictures of the wreck. haha
Take Care.... I'm off to the dropzone in an hour!! Whoo hoo!!
-Tommy |
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
| | Posted on Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 02:04 am: |
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idiots like this probablly don't help things much either in the roll over department.
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Carter Simcoe (Carter)
| | Posted on Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 02:06 am: |
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oh well, file size was to large and I don't feel like messing with it. Its a great picture of some fools that just rolled a liberty in on a trail that looks like a place no stock vehicle has any business being. If anyone knows how to decrease the size and wants to post it I will email it to you but I don't have the time to mess with it. |
Steve (Scrover)
| | Posted on Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 06:48 pm: |
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try this
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Carter Simcoe (Carter)
| | Posted on Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 09:26 pm: |
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thanks Steve, I was looking at it again before I sent it to you and I guess it didn't actually roll over but they sure did bash it on something pretty bad. |
Will Roeder (Will_Roeder)
| | Posted on Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 09:29 pm: |
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dayum....that thing is beat. looks like maybe they just flopped it over on its side???? |
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