| Author | Message | ||
     Marco A Mendoza (Kkngtgr) Member Username: Kkngtgr Post Number: 63 Registered: 10-2003 |
I would like to buy new tires for the disco, and I'm considering the dunlop mud rovers (for the price mostly) but I also wanted to get something from interco,any thoughts? I'm also considering geting a set of rims (if possible, cheap) so I can mount my street tires on one set and the mud tires on the other set... -Marco | ||
| Marco A Mendoza (Kkngtgr) Member Username: Kkngtgr Post Number: 64 Registered: 10-2003 |
and how about this one? www.intercotire.com/html/trxus_mt___sts.htm | ||
| Alan Stuart (Alan_stuart) New Member Username: Alan_stuart Post Number: 22 Registered: 12-2003 |
I had them for a while. They are ok until the tread wears--and it wears quickly, then the traction off-road decreases as the tread wears. Now I have the Goodyear MTRs--much better off- road, and quieter and smoother on road. Don't know about the Trxus, but have heard good things about them except some have had trouble balancing them. Alan | ||
| peppy (Chrisseries1) Member Username: Chrisseries1 Post Number: 96 Registered: 03-2004 |
with my experience with tyres. dont skip. here is where being cheep hurts. a cheep tyre wears faster, gives a terrible ride, etc. spend the extra bit of money and get a quality tyre. it is worth it in the end. my thoughts on rims , would be towards a 15 inch steel. you are offered a lot more tyres in 15 inch upping your choices. why steel? for off road they work well. less expensive if one becomes bent. replacing a alloy rim gets costly and they wont stand up to the off road use! | ||
| Marco A Mendoza (Kkngtgr) Member Username: Kkngtgr Post Number: 65 Registered: 10-2003 |
Thanks for the advice on the 15 inch rims peppy, I spent the whole afternoon looking for a tires and rims, to no avail, what would be the size then? How many miles have you put to your MTR's Alan? -Marco | ||
| Matt Anderson (Disco01) Senior Member Username: Disco01 Post Number: 355 Registered: 10-2003 |
Marco, I agree with what Peppy said about being cheap. However, Dunlop tires are not usually "cheap" tires. The Mud Rovers are cheaper because they are from an era when a mud tire was strictly that--a mud tire. Now a days a mudder is truly more of an all terrain tire for most people. I am not saying they have become less agressive, but rather have become a lot more civilized thus being viable alternatives for all around tires. That being said, if you look at the big picture and the 30k you may get out of a set of tires, what difference does $100 make? Take a look at the Yokohama Geolander MT or any mudder designed more recently than the Dunlop. | ||
| Marco A Mendoza (Kkngtgr) Member Username: Kkngtgr Post Number: 66 Registered: 10-2003 |
Good point, Matt, I was thinking about spending some $500 in tires, The set of Dunlops are something like $360 or $400, I'll check those Yokohamas, but what do you think if I get a set of rims as well, would that work? to have an off road dedicated set of tires? -Marco | ||
| Alan Stuart (Alan_stuart) New Member Username: Alan_stuart Post Number: 25 Registered: 12-2003 |
"How many miles have you put to your MTR's Alan?" Right now they have about 30,000 hard miles on them. They have about 10,000 or 15,000 good miles left. Alan | ||
| Marco A Mendoza (Kkngtgr) Member Username: Kkngtgr Post Number: 67 Registered: 10-2003 |
Ok, so far I have checked the BFG all terrain TA KO at $132, the mud terrain t/a KM at $145 the dunlop mud rover at $92, and the yokohama geolandar at plus IIat $78, what do you think? -Marco | ||
| Tom V (Cozmo) Member Username: Cozmo Post Number: 240 Registered: 09-2002 |
I've been on Dunlap Mud Rovers since just before x-mas and have no complaints. They are great both on and off road. One complaint now when I get stuck I get bad stuck. | ||
| Matt Anderson (Disco01) Senior Member Username: Disco01 Post Number: 357 Registered: 10-2003 |
Marco, if you are looking at all terrains I would say you will not be doing wheeling extreme enough justify the cost of steelies. I look at "all terrain" labeled tires as nothing more than a street tire that is tough enough for trail usage. You will, however, be extremely disappointed with them the first time you hit any sort of mud or even slippery grass. I personally have my Disco with an agressive all terrain Dunlop RV and a 79 Dodge I have "souped up" for wheeling. I have yet to install a locking diff but with big hp and 33" swampers she will just tear up most surfaces where my Disco would be at a standstill just spinning. My point, if you are going to be seeing mud you dont want an AT, they will cake up and be slicks, and if you wont ever see mud there is not point in accepting the tradeoffs. Please think about this. Alans case with getting 45k out of a mud tire is phenomenal. Oh yeah, one more thing--you may not want a mudder if you ever have to drive in ice or snow. Can we say white nuckels? | ||
| Marco A Mendoza (Kkngtgr) Member Username: Kkngtgr Post Number: 69 Registered: 10-2003 |
mmmh, I would have thought that mudders were good at snow too, this is the situation, if I wanted to go more extreme, I would have to get a lift kit, wich I can not due to my Parking garage's clearance, the disco bearly fits in here, so I would just have to stay with medium dificulty mud holes, and trails, so how about agresive all terrain tires for all year long, and good mudders to go off roading twice or three times a month? would that be worth it, how expensive can steel rims be? | ||
| Matt Anderson (Disco01) Senior Member Username: Disco01 Post Number: 358 Registered: 10-2003 |
Marco you are actually partially correct. Deep snow would be fine with mudders. However, the type of snow/ice we see on roads really requires siped tires. It sounds to me like you need to get some Dunlop Rover R/Ts. Check them out. | ||
| Matt Anderson (Disco01) Senior Member Username: Disco01 Post Number: 359 Registered: 10-2003 |
Steel rims can be more expensive than you think. Pro Comp makes some that will work, I belive they are about $65 or so each. | ||
| Greg Crow (Gregcrow) New Member Username: Gregcrow Post Number: 9 Registered: 12-2003 |
I have the dunlop mud rovers and have been pretty happy with them. One complaint I do have, is the side wall is pretty weak compared to other MTs. | ||
| Knut Nerheim (Knut) New Member Username: Knut Post Number: 20 Registered: 04-2003 |
I also have Dunlop Mud Rovers and, like Greg, I've been pretty happy with them. The side wall seems softer than the BFG AT's I've used in the past, but I haven't punctured a sidewall yet. | ||
| Billy Deakins (Discodog) New Member Username: Discodog Post Number: 36 Registered: 11-2003 |
I have the Dunlop MR's on 16" black steelies and I love them. I put them on before Christmas and their great. Drove on them from L.A. to Oregon and they were pretty quiet. Went wheeling with them down here and they did great. Marco, I don't know if you have a D1 or D2, but with my D2, they told me 15" wheels wouldn't fit on it. The Dunlops are very well priced though. I think I paid $94 each at TireRack. Good luck. | ||
| Walter Dent (Walter) Member Username: Walter Post Number: 57 Registered: 11-2003 |
Marco, how's it going? I got qouted a price from a local tire place here for the BFG AT's(what I have) for $121 a piece with mounting included. That was for a larger size then what you would want. If you're interested e-mail me with your size and I'll call for you. I'm very happy with the BFG's. You saw how good they did the other day! We'll do it again soon. | ||
| Chris Browne (Chris_browne) Senior Member Username: Chris_browne Post Number: 692 Registered: 02-2003 |
I went cheap to with the last set of MTs, and have Cooper STT, now discontinued. Futura MT is the current equivalent. Went cheap on basis that damage is inevitable therefore fewer dollars at stake. As it happens one has sidewall damage and is now a spare | ||
| Perry Ray Miller (Discojunky) Member Username: Discojunky Post Number: 116 Registered: 03-2003 |
Marco, Gulf coast rovers in the vendors section has steelie's for $66. Thats for 16's but they have 15's too if ya' want em'. | ||
| Perry Ray Miller (Discojunky) Member Username: Discojunky Post Number: 117 Registered: 03-2003 |
The 15's in theroy should be better off- road but I doubt you would notice it. I went with 16's incase I put the alloys back on...But I won't it looks better with steel! | ||
| Marco A Mendoza (Kkngtgr) Member Username: Kkngtgr Post Number: 71 Registered: 10-2003 |
Hey guys, hi Walter, I thought I posted this before, but It just came to my mind that I got disconected just before posting, (darn telephone rang) I'm using 235 70 16 Walter, is it a good idea to have an Off road dedicated set of wheels/tires? I would not mind changing them every time I go to the trails, I just want to make a good and well informed decision the first time, and for the first improvement of my DI, then, whe more money is saved, step two will be taken.Cheers -Marco | ||
| justin meade (Xmustang420) New Member Username: Xmustang420 Post Number: 16 Registered: 12-2003 |
I used Dunlop Mud Rovers on my 89 4runner before i got the Disco. I had no problems they did seem to wear quick though. They wearn't great off road, but much better than my old worn out michelins that i would get stuck in my front yard. The Mud Rovers however completely suck on ice. Back in the Winter the roads iced over about an inch 1/2 and i could hardly get any traction. It sure was fun though. | ||
| Walter Dent (Walter) Member Username: Walter Post Number: 59 Registered: 11-2003 |
Marco. If you have the money then get another set of tires and wheels. I wish I could! If not, I would check out the BFG's. I'm happy with mine and they come well recommended on Dweb. I look forward to wheeling with you again. | ||
| Erik Olson (Jon) Senior Member Username: Jon Post Number: 608 Registered: 02-2002 |
If you look around you should be able to easily source a set of Discovery steel spares if you like the way they look. I bought four for about $175 a few years ago from a dismantler. e | ||
| Marco A Mendoza (Kkngtgr) Member Username: Kkngtgr Post Number: 73 Registered: 10-2003 |
Good, it's decided then, I'll save a couple hundred dollars more, and buy the set of rims with the dedicated mud tires, and in the meanwhile I'll just use the street tires that I currently have, for a few thousand miles more, then switch to the BFG's, thank you all guys, Walter I'm also looking forward for another run, I'll be able to go wheeling by April 10th 11th, what do you say? I should have at least a new set of tires by then... I just hope I will not slow you down too much, like with the street tires las time... -Marco | ||
| eric johnson (Eric2) Senior Member Username: Eric2 Post Number: 307 Registered: 05-2003 |
Marco - www.tirerack.com Find the customer survey reports. There are two of interest to us - Off-Road All Terrain and Off-Road Maximum Traction. Apparently Bridgestone/Firestone has the best tires. I would seriouly take a look at the Firestone Destination M/T - as it is the top rated Maximum Traction tire. It is rated much better than the Goodrich Mud Terrain T/A/KM or the Goodyear Wrangler MT/R. No, I don't work for Firestone. For the record, I have Goodrich Mud Terrains on my '90 RR, Goodrich Trac-Edge on my '62 88", and just bought some Goodrich All-Terrain T/A KO's for my '99 4WD Chevy S-10.(Which I will sell once the engine is back in the RR) | ||
| Boris Kokotovic (Uberhahn) New Member Username: Uberhahn Post Number: 9 Registered: 09-2003 |
How about Cooper Discoverer series (AT or MT). I had the MT on a heavy Diesel truck. Although white lettering may bother some, the tires wore well even with Diesel weight on them. | ||
| Marco A Mendoza (Kkngtgr) Member Username: Kkngtgr Post Number: 77 Registered: 10-2003 |
I checked the Firestones, Im using 235 70/ 16 and they only have them in 225 75 16 D 235 85 16 E 245 75 16 E Studded wall What are the diferences? and if any wich one would fit best? the reviews are very impressive -Marco | ||
| eric johnson (Eric2) Senior Member Username: Eric2 Post Number: 308 Registered: 05-2003 |
My Trac-Edge's are 235/85-16. A very popular size for Series Rovers. Most folks I know who have Series, run that size. | ||
| eric johnson (Eric2) Senior Member Username: Eric2 Post Number: 309 Registered: 05-2003 |
Oops, have Series on the mind today. Your tires are 29" dia. The 225/75's are 29-1/2" dia. 245/75's are 30-1/2" dia. 235/85's are 31-1/2" dia. You'd get 1-1/4" more clearance with the 235/85's, maybe a bit better milage, but the Disco would be a bit slower. Don't ask me to quantify "bit", except that it would be noticeable. | ||
| Marco A Mendoza (Kkngtgr) Member Username: Kkngtgr Post Number: 80 Registered: 10-2003 |
Oh man that Pirelli sure looks sweet, I think that I could get them, altough is a bit more than what I wanted to spend, but it might be worth it to invest $50 bucks more per tire, and be as happy as all those people that wrote the reviews, I would go for the 245 75 16 studded wall, It will only increase the overall height of the truck by 1 1/2 inch, mmm, I'll be right back I'll have to check if it will fit in my garage ( right now is barely doing it) | ||
| Marco A Mendoza (Kkngtgr) Member Username: Kkngtgr Post Number: 81 Registered: 10-2003 |
Ok now the clearance at the lowest point is 79 inches, and the Disco is 77.5, plus the 1 1/2 increase, mmm will barely make it but I think it will be doable, or I'll just have to start driving like crazy to shave off some milimiters of the tire -Marco | ||
| Marco A Mendoza (Kkngtgr) Member Username: Kkngtgr Post Number: 82 Registered: 10-2003 |
What I have not asked is how heavier will it be, will it affect the suspention? -Marco | ||
| David Morin (Sporin) Member Username: Sporin Post Number: 148 Registered: 02-2003 |
To add to the confusion, the Kumho MT's have recieved STELLAR reviews online and they cost about the same as the Dunlops. I'd definitely consider them myself. I run Kumho sports tires on my road car and they are fantastic. For an AT, I prefer the Dunlop Radial Rover RT over the much loved BFG AT's. I've had both and for on road, offroad, and snow & ice performance, *I think* the Dunlops are superior and they cost a LOT less. I currently have a set of used 245/75-16 Remington Mud Brutes on my RRC. They are the generic labeled Dunlop MT. I can attest that they STINK in the slippery stuff... like slicks.  They are just a stop-gap for me this summer while I save for a set of bigger, better tires for next year (hopefully 265/75-16 TrXus MT's.) | ||
| eric johnson (Eric2) Senior Member Username: Eric2 Post Number: 310 Registered: 05-2003 |
Pirelli's are like Italian cars, you could get one thats real sweet, but the next ones a bummer...they may still have QC issues. | ||
| Shane Lesteberg (Snwbord24) Member Username: Snwbord24 Post Number: 113 Registered: 01-2004 |
I don't know if it carries over, but I had pirelli's on a car about 6 or 7 years ago and they were horrible. My balding goodyears were better than those things. | ||
| Neil Flanagan (Electriceel) Member Username: Electriceel Post Number: 141 Registered: 02-2002 |
Dunlops suck. If you are looking for an agressive AT that wont be trashed on the rocks, have a look at the Cooper Discoverer S/T-C. NOT the S/T. The regular S/T's sidewalls are not very strong and the lugs tend to chunk. The S/T-C is nice. Only 3 sizes. 245/75R16, 235/85R16, and 265/75R16. ALL are load range E. |
