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Kristopher March (Apexdisco)
Senior Member Username: Apexdisco
Post Number: 371 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 10:22 pm: |
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Is this a common tool found in hardware stores? How much are they generally? |
   
Chuck Stroud (Str0ud)
New Member Username: Str0ud
Post Number: 25 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 11:22 pm: |
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Common tool found in auto parts store. Bought mine with a tie rod separator as a set for $15. My brother likes to call them pickle forks. They look identical except for the angle of the forked end. -Str0ud |
   
Kristopher March (Apexdisco)
Senior Member Username: Apexdisco
Post Number: 373 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 11:37 pm: |
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that's what I needed to know. Thanks. Looks like one of those tools you buy and use once, or rarely ever use. Unless you're an auto mechanic.
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Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp)
Member Username: Steve_rupp
Post Number: 114 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 11:48 pm: |
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"Looks like one of those tools you buy and use once, or rarely ever use. Unless you're an auto mechanic." -you'd be suprised. If you have an air compressor and an impact hammer, get an attachment for that. |
   
Mike Rupp (Mike_rupp)
Senior Member Username: Mike_rupp
Post Number: 332 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 10:04 am: |
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There is another type of ball joint separator. It has a fork that mounts on the topside and a bolt on the underside that pushes the ball joint out. Haven't used one, but the pickelforks can damage the rubber boot on the joint. |
   
Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp)
Member Username: Steve_rupp
Post Number: 116 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 11:49 am: |
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http://www.jcwhitney.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/EndecaControllerView?D=ball+j oint&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&firstSearch=1&catalogId=10101&Nty=1&Ntx=mode+matcha llany&Dn=0+111&Ntt=ball+joint&tmplframe=EndecaCategoryView&langId=-1§ion=bod y&storeId=10101&Ntk=AllTextSearchGroup&ss=10101 I think this is what Mike is talking about. I just bought one. I will be removing my tierod and drag link soon and don't want to hurt the boot so I think I'll give this a try. I'll let everybody know how it works. |
   
Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp)
Member Username: Steve_rupp
Post Number: 117 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 11:52 am: |
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Jaime Crusellas (Jaime)
Senior Member Username: Jaime
Post Number: 291 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 03:32 pm: |
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I have the one on the left in the pic that Steve refers to. It works very well. I removed 4 joints with no problem and no damage.
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marc olivares (Pugs)
Senior Member Username: Pugs
Post Number: 401 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 07:05 pm: |
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save the money and smack the knuckle with two hammers at the same time. joint will pop right out of the taper. i've got one of those broken jipo separators from snapon and it just sits at the bottom of my toolbox. marc |
   
Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp)
Member Username: Steve_rupp
Post Number: 120 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 07:33 pm: |
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Great idea. I think I'll go with a more scientific approach. |
   
marc olivares (Pugs)
Senior Member Username: Pugs
Post Number: 402 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 12:04 am: |
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what's scientific about it, it's a rod end
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Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp)
Member Username: Steve_rupp
Post Number: 123 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 01:53 pm: |
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What if you want to re-use it? I have never got one off by hitting the tie-rod or drag link. If you hit the balljoint itself you'll screw up the threads. What am I talking about, you thought about that so you leave the nut on a few threads off so you can keep the threads clean. It's still a dildo way to do something. If you're going to do it, do it right! |
   
marc olivares (Pugs)
Senior Member Username: Pugs
Post Number: 403 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 06:58 pm: |
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steve, before you resort to name calling, re-read my post. i said hit the knuckle, not the joint, not the link. knuckle, swivle ball housing, it's the same thing. smack the forged piece that the rod end is connected to. a couple smacks on the knuckle with two hammers (about 180 degrees from each other)at the same time will pop the the joint at the taper. won't hurt the threads, rod end or knuckle. it works, i'm not trying to bust you balls, just try it before you dismiss it, i do this shit for a living. marc |
   
Curtis N (Curtis)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Curtis
Post Number: 1276 Registered: 05-2002
| Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 07:31 pm: |
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LOL - Steve. Marc was just over in my driveway doing this on one of our friends Discos. It works. Hammer in left hand hammer in right hand - SMACK! on each side of the knuckle simultaneously. Took about 5 - 10 hits and each one just popped out like toast out of a toaster. I don't think there is a safer way to do it. Four tie rod ends in less than 5 minutes. BTW - Marc is being kind. He actually makes beefed up tie rods, drag links, and/with steering stabilizer relocation mounts. The guy knows his stuff. |
   
Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp)
Member Username: Steve_rupp
Post Number: 129 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 08:57 pm: |
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I don't doubt he does. I guess I will have to see it done to understand what you guys are talking about. Personally I don't like to hit my disco unless it has done something bad. However the next time it pisses me off, I will try to take its tie-rod off. LOL |
   
Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp)
Member Username: Steve_rupp
Post Number: 130 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 08:59 pm: |
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Before I use the hammer method, I will try that stupid tool. I just like tools. If it breaks or is a pice of shit, I will definately let you know. |
   
peppy (Chrisseries1)
Member Username: Chrisseries1
Post Number: 107 Registered: 03-2004
| Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 10:16 pm: |
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man all mechanics take a hammer and smack the knuckle. it works it is fast and i have been doing this for the five years that i have been wrenching. thats all that banging and clanging that you here in the shop when you are waiting for repares. then this i followed by profanity and some tool throwing.... LOL |
   
Curtis N (Curtis)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Curtis
Post Number: 1277 Registered: 05-2002
| Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 11:30 pm: |
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quote:If it breaks or is a pice of shit, I will definately let you know.
No need my friend. After seeing this method, it is indeed a piece of shit. |
   
Jaime Crusellas (Jaime)
Senior Member Username: Jaime
Post Number: 295 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Monday, March 22, 2004 - 08:46 pm: |
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I for one am glad I used the tool. I'm aware of my coordination, and swinging two hammers at the same time while under the truck is not an approach I would take. For you guys that do it...have at it! |
   
Bruno Tome (Bruno_tome)
Member Username: Bruno_tome
Post Number: 85 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Monday, March 22, 2004 - 09:09 pm: |
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Both methods are efficient, the hammer technique is quick but requires coordination and confidence. BT. |