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Kristopher March (Apexdisco)
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Post Number: 371
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Is this a common tool found in hardware stores?

How much are they generally?
 

Chuck Stroud (Str0ud)
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Post Number: 25
Registered: 02-2004
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Common tool found in auto parts store. Bought mine with a tie rod separator as a set for $15. My brother likes to call them pickle forks. They look identical except for the angle of the forked end.

-Str0ud
 

Kristopher March (Apexdisco)
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Post Number: 373
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

that's what I needed to know. Thanks.

Looks like one of those tools you buy and use once, or rarely ever use. Unless you're an auto mechanic.
 

Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp)
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Post Number: 114
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 11:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"Looks like one of those tools you buy and use once, or rarely ever use. Unless you're an auto mechanic."

-you'd be suprised. If you have an air compressor and an impact hammer, get an attachment for that.
 

Mike Rupp (Mike_rupp)
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Post Number: 332
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

There is another type of ball joint separator. It has a fork that mounts on the topside and a bolt on the underside that pushes the ball joint out. Haven't used one, but the pickelforks can damage the rubber boot on the joint.
 

Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp)
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Post Number: 116
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

http://www.jcwhitney.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/EndecaControllerView?D=ball+j oint&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&firstSearch=1&catalogId=10101&Nty=1&Ntx=mode+matcha llany&Dn=0+111&Ntt=ball+joint&tmplframe=EndecaCategoryView&langId=-1&section=bod y&storeId=10101&Ntk=AllTextSearchGroup&ss=10101

I think this is what Mike is talking about. I just bought one. I will be removing my tierod and drag link soon and don't want to hurt the boot so I think I'll give this a try. I'll let everybody know how it works.
 

Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp)
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Post Number: 117
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

 

Jaime Crusellas (Jaime)
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Post Number: 291
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have the one on the left in the pic that Steve refers to. It works very well. I removed 4 joints with no problem and no damage.

 

marc olivares (Pugs)
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Post Number: 401
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

save the money and smack the knuckle with two hammers at the same time.
joint will pop right out of the taper.

i've got one of those broken jipo separators from snapon and it just sits at the bottom of my toolbox.
marc
 

Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp)
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Post Number: 120
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 07:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Great idea. I think I'll go with a more scientific approach.
 

marc olivares (Pugs)
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Post Number: 402
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Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 12:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

what's scientific about it, it's a rod end
 

Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp)
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Post Number: 123
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

What if you want to re-use it? I have never got one off by hitting the tie-rod or drag link. If you hit the balljoint itself you'll screw up the threads. What am I talking about, you thought about that so you leave the nut on a few threads off so you can keep the threads clean. It's still a dildo way to do something. If you're going to do it, do it right!
 

marc olivares (Pugs)
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Post Number: 403
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

steve,
before you resort to name calling, re-read my post. i said hit the knuckle, not the joint, not the link. knuckle, swivle ball housing, it's the same thing.
smack the forged piece that the rod end is connected to. a couple smacks on the knuckle with two hammers (about 180 degrees from each other)at the same time will pop the the joint at the taper. won't hurt the threads, rod end or knuckle.
it works,
i'm not trying to bust you balls, just try it before you dismiss it, i do this shit for a living.
marc
 

Curtis N (Curtis)
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Post Number: 1276
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

LOL - Steve. Marc was just over in my driveway doing this on one of our friends Discos. It works. Hammer in left hand hammer in right hand - SMACK! on each side of the knuckle simultaneously. Took about 5 - 10 hits and each one just popped out like toast out of a toaster. I don't think there is a safer way to do it. Four tie rod ends in less than 5 minutes.

BTW - Marc is being kind. He actually makes beefed up tie rods, drag links, and/with steering stabilizer relocation mounts. The guy knows his stuff.
 

Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp)
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Post Number: 129
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I don't doubt he does. I guess I will have to see it done to understand what you guys are talking about. Personally I don't like to hit my disco unless it has done something bad. However the next time it pisses me off, I will try to take its tie-rod off. LOL
 

Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp)
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Post Number: 130
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Before I use the hammer method, I will try that stupid tool. I just like tools. If it breaks or is a pice of shit, I will definately let you know.
 

peppy (Chrisseries1)
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Post Number: 107
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 10:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

man all mechanics take a hammer and smack the knuckle. it works it is fast and i have been doing this for the five years that i have been wrenching. thats all that banging and clanging that you here in the shop when you are waiting for repares. then this i followed by profanity and some tool throwing.... LOL
 

Curtis N (Curtis)
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Post Number: 1277
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


quote:

If it breaks or is a pice of shit, I will definately let you know.




No need my friend. After seeing this method, it is indeed a piece of shit.
 

Jaime Crusellas (Jaime)
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Post Number: 295
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Monday, March 22, 2004 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I for one am glad I used the tool. I'm aware of my coordination, and swinging two hammers at the same time while under the truck is not an approach I would take.

For you guys that do it...have at it!
 

Bruno Tome (Bruno_tome)
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Post Number: 85
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Monday, March 22, 2004 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Both methods are efficient, the hammer technique is quick but requires coordination and confidence.

BT.

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