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John S. Bleazard (Injun)
Member Username: Injun
Post Number: 55 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 11:05 am: |
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Why did someone make such a versatile truck with looks and the offroad ability second to none in the "family SUV" market and give it absolutely no power. Im thinking of hooking up a fogger system just to get it into the mountains. At low speeds my truck feels strong with decent torque, but on the interstate going up any type of incline the damn thing downshifts then upshifts then downshifts. Is going 40mph on the interstate in the Appalachains something Im going to have to get used to? Im not asking for 400hp, but maybe a better torque or hp curve would be nice. |
   
Blue (Blue)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue
Post Number: 1391 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 11:11 am: |
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so ride the mower on the highway and hook up a bush hog to the back of the Disco. |
   
Sergei Rodionov (Uzbad)
Senior Member Username: Uzbad
Post Number: 373 Registered: 08-2003
| Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 11:15 am: |
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John - b/c offroad you NOT driving at same speed/gear? Also - get used to fact that overdrive isnt good idea in any kind of climb/descend driving (as well as cruise control). Automatic sucks when it comes to such things. Just stick to 3rd gear Or just go and change shifting levels. Its not that hard. |
   
Chris Browne (Chris_browne)
Senior Member Username: Chris_browne
Post Number: 693 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 11:18 am: |
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If you bought it for speed, your missing the point. These are off road vehicles where power isn't needed but traction is. |
   
John S. Bleazard (Injun)
Member Username: Injun
Post Number: 56 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 11:27 am: |
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I keep the truck covered in mud and use it for the occasional trip to the woods which impresses me every time. Ive got another vehicle for my speed rush. I didnt buy it for speed, I bought it as my daily driver, which must be able to go offroad on occasion. I would say that better than 95% of rover owners dont take their vehicle off the pavement. Just curious if the anyone has tinkered with the computers to adjust timing curves, shift points, etc. to help. |
   
Alan Yim (Alan)
Senior Member Username: Alan
Post Number: 1127 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 11:34 am: |
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Do a search and you'll find LOTS of discussion about this...but it basically comes back to the same point. It's not going to change much or show significant benefits so you'll have to accept it.  |
   
Matt Moore (Mmoore)
Member Username: Mmoore
Post Number: 49 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 11:44 am: |
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John, trade your second faster vehicle in for something S-L-O-W. Compared to my diesel 90, my Disco feels like a rocket. But seriously, if it is hunting on inclines drop the transmision into 3rd like Sergei said or adjust the kickdown cable. |
   
Reed Cotton (Reedcotton)
Senior Member Username: Reedcotton
Post Number: 328 Registered: 01-2003
| Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 11:51 am: |
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The D1 isn't a speed machine, but... A few years ago, right after mines warrantee expired where going up the grade on Highway 17 wasn't fun. This was due to conditions similar to what John described. Lots of excessive downshifting and upshifting, that hadn't happened before. I took it to a highly recommended mechanic in Santa Cruz, and he fixed the problem. He attributed the problem to an almost plugged fuel filter. I am still a bit sceptical about THAT explaination, but at the same time he replaced a bunch of other filters and some hoses which may also have been part of the problem. So if it may be that John's truck is doing some excessive shifting, and may be due for a general system cleanout. If not then what everybody else said!
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Reed Cotton (Reedcotton)
Senior Member Username: Reedcotton
Post Number: 329 Registered: 01-2003
| Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 11:57 am: |
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BTW - http://www.letsmow.com/
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Bazzle (Bazzle)
Member Username: Bazzle
Post Number: 115 Registered: 09-2003
| Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 12:00 pm: |
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Its the weight of the mud... Bazzle  |
   
Mark & Bev Preston (Markp)
Senior Member Username: Markp
Post Number: 275 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 12:03 pm: |
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4.6 with crane cam is the answer |
   
John S. Bleazard (Injun)
Member Username: Injun
Post Number: 57 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 01:23 pm: |
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I guess Ill have to do the 3rd gear thing until I can get the motor out of this one in it.
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Chris Robyn (Noirovr)
New Member Username: Noirovr
Post Number: 28 Registered: 07-2003
| Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 02:45 pm: |
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It's a trade-off. I like having the V8, which is not so big that it interferes with the truck's other capabilities. I just came back from Tahoe (North shore). Had to hold it ('95 Disco 3.9) in 3rd--even 2nd at times @ 4,300 rpm or so going up some of the longer, steeper grades. AC off, of course. Believe me those new Xterras or whatever with the V6 have a tough time as well. By contrast, those diesel Chevys or GMCs just sailed on by. |
   
Rick Neff (Lostinboston)
Senior Member Username: Lostinboston
Post Number: 359 Registered: 06-2003
| Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 02:54 pm: |
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supercharge it |
   
Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: V22guy
Post Number: 2591 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 03:21 pm: |
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quote:so ride the mower on the highway and hook up a bush hog to the back of the Disco
I own a John Deere LX 277 with a 42" deck and a 17Hp Kawasaki engine. Maybe I'll contact Rover Solutions for a bumper and EE for a matched set of springs......
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Jaime Crusellas (Jaime)
Senior Member Username: Jaime
Post Number: 292 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 03:40 pm: |
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Sweeet Goat! I used to own a '65 with 3 dueces. Was my first engine re-build. |
   
Perry Ray Miller (Discojunky)
Member Username: Discojunky
Post Number: 115 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 05:32 pm: |
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John, Do you have stock tires and no lift? Mine wasn't too bad in the mountains until the lift and tires and about three hundreds pounds of steel went on and then I was in the far right with the semi's and u-hauls. But new gears put some spice back in it. I agree though it would be nice to have even 220 ponies out of the stock motor. But, anything you drive is gonna' feel slow compared to a wheel pullin' GTO!
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Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp)
Member Username: Steve_rupp
Post Number: 119 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 05:54 pm: |
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If I want to make my disco feel fast, I'll just take my Suzuki Samurai with 33's for a ride. Then the rover feels like that Goat! |
   
Robert Sublett (Rubisco98)
Senior Member Username: Rubisco98
Post Number: 1177 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 06:44 pm: |
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"Believe me those new Xterras or whatever with the V6 have a tough time as well." I beg to differ. I have a D1, a D2 and an Xterra (V6 not supercharged). On the road, the Xterra will smoke both my Discos, speed and handling. But, it could not and never will come anywhere near the level of offroad driving the D's can do. The Xterra barely weighs 4000#s, trust me, it moves quite well.. (I still question my decision in going with an Xterra for my daily driving, but I haven't broken down once yet |
   
Shaun Power (Shaunp)
Senior Member Username: Shaunp
Post Number: 265 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 09:07 pm: |
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What you need to do is change the cam. Surely some one in the US makes a good mid range cam for Rovers. Tighe Cams here in Brisbane Australia make a cam that gives them strong mid range and this really helps with the down shifting. I'm sure Dean Tighe would send you one if there is nothing in the states. www.tighecams.com.au |
   
Chuck Stroud (Str0ud)
New Member Username: Str0ud
Post Number: 27 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 09:17 pm: |
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John, Try de-tuning your lawnmower. Problem solved. -Str0ud |
   
peppy (Chrisseries1)
Member Username: Chrisseries1
Post Number: 103 Registered: 03-2004
| Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 11:21 pm: |
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its not a landrover but a land mower. didnt you know? hey man john s thats a nice shot. |
   
John S. Bleazard (Injun)
Member Username: Injun
Post Number: 58 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2004 - 12:29 pm: |
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Well, make a note in the tech section. A 455 pontiac will NOT fit in a 98 D1 without some trimming to the fenders and hood. Old goats are fun to drive in a straight line, but dont perform well in the mud. Good call on the car, 65 GTO. I have kinda got used to the discos power on road, just have to get used to taking my time in the mountains. Its just no fun watching my friends 01 Wrangler sport pass me. I have a complex about being passed. Especially by mopars, which doesnt happen often. Thanks all for your time and suggestions. |
   
Dave Statler (Falconx84)
Member Username: Falconx84
Post Number: 93 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2004 - 02:08 pm: |
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I feel your pain. I used to race a 95 Jetta VR6 with over 200 hp. Nice and quick 5 speed. It was decent in snow, but my dad wanted me to get an SUV. Found a sweet deal on the disco. I really really miss the speed. I have to wheel every few weeks as part of my self-treatment for speed-deprivation. IF I can't race, I'll off-road. |
   
Timothy A. Green (Tree_trimmer)
Member Username: Tree_trimmer
Post Number: 53 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2004 - 03:16 pm: |
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Talk to Ian at RPI. (rpiv8.com) You can have speed and power if you want it. Not much trouble, just drop in and bolt up. May hurt the wallet a little though. |
   
Chris Robyn (Noirovr)
New Member Username: Noirovr
Post Number: 29 Registered: 07-2003
| Posted on Monday, March 22, 2004 - 04:23 pm: |
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Sorry, what I meant to say was that this was during sustained climbing on a mountain grade. Maybe the one I say kept it in "D" the whole time... No question the X smokes the Disco on the street. I actually looked at the Xterra before I got the Disco since it seemed like it had pretty much all the goodies. But in the end I have a soft spot for LR and figured I wanted the V8. "Believe me those new Xterras or whatever with the V6 have a tough time as well." I beg to differ. I have a D1, a D2 and an Xterra (V6 not supercharged). On the road, the Xterra will smoke both my Discos, speed and handling. But, it could not and never will come anywhere near the level of offroad driving the D's can do. The Xterra barely weighs 4000#s, trust me, it moves quite well.. (I still question my decision in going with an Xterra for my daily driving, but I haven't broken down once yet |
   
Brian O'Connor (Hooky)
Member Username: Hooky
Post Number: 95 Registered: 09-2003
| Posted on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 09:37 pm: |
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John - I just want to know what kind of mower you have... I'm thinking "trade in time". |