| Author | Message | ||
     mantaray (Mantaray) Member Username: Mantaray Post Number: 160 Registered: 02-2002 |
i have a '97 Discovery and was wondering if anyone here had ever attempted to replace the rear main seal on their engine. mine is leaking and the dealer quote for the fix was $1700. i have access to a shop with a lift and all the tools i'd need, i'm just wondering how hard it is to drop the •••••• and replace the rear main and oil pan seals. if i can do it myself and save the money, it's definitely the way i'd like to go. any advice, knowledge, etc. would be appreciated. | ||
| Blue (Blue) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue Post Number: 1401 Registered: 04-2003 |
before one attempts such an expensive repair with such a sketchy ROI, one may first wish to ponder the following comparison: actual value of Disco vs. value of preventing a few drips... | ||
| mantaray (Mantaray) Member Username: Mantaray Post Number: 161 Registered: 02-2002 |
not sure why my abbreviation of transmission got dotted out. Blue - i'm not familiar with the acronym ROI, what's it mean? it's not just a few drips either. nothing catastrophic, but enough to where i need to look at repairing it. | ||
| Blue (Blue) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue Post Number: 1404 Registered: 04-2003 |
Return On Investment | ||
| Jack Edwards (Olered) Senior Member Username: Olered Post Number: 494 Registered: 04-2002 |
It will just leak again. If it's pouring, I'd say yes. If not, just consider it to be part of the anti-rust system. If it's replaced over and over, I'd consider the cost/dollar average.  | ||
| Chris Browne (Chris_browne) Senior Member Username: Chris_browne Post Number: 708 Registered: 02-2003 |
Dealer did mine under warranty, then screwed up putting the trani back in -I got a reman trani instead | ||
| eric w siepmann (Cdn001) Member Username: Cdn001 Post Number: 85 Registered: 12-2003 |
I would replace all the gaskets at the back of the engine while you're there. It may or may not be the rear main seal. Just good insurance. Price the job out. I found an independent that will do the job for 750. You're just paying for labor at the dealer. The rear main for a 4.0 is 13.26 from rovers north. Food for thought, EwS | ||
| mantaray (Mantaray) Member Username: Mantaray Post Number: 162 Registered: 02-2002 |
thanks for the info guys. if i can do it myself i wouldn't mind spending like $50 to do all the seals/gaskets back there. there's no way i'm gonna pay a dealer $1700 to do it, i mainly called to be curious and see if i could glean any insight as to whether this was a fix i was capable of. | ||
| gp (Garrett) Senior Member Username: Garrett Post Number: 2464 Registered: 10-2001 |
$1700 for a rear main. they must be doing something else.....besides you. that's $283/hour at 6 hours. hope they at least give you a complimentary Fresca! when you do the rear main seal it should come as a 'kit.' three total seals...the rear main and two cross shaped seals. | ||
| mantaray (Mantaray) Member Username: Mantaray Post Number: 164 Registered: 02-2002 |
Garrett - they told me i'd be without my truck for a few days. i know the price sounds ridiculous. the guy told me it was because they had to drop the transmission that it cost so much. only other thing they were gonna do is replace the oil pan gasket. i'm not gonna have them do it. i'm gonna shop it around and most likely do it myself if i can get some insight as to how difficult it is to get the transmission out. | ||
| Shane Lesteberg (Snwbord24) Member Username: Snwbord24 Post Number: 111 Registered: 01-2004 |
According to the manual, there are 51 steps to remove the transmission. I'm not familiar with the D1 so I don't know how difficult it is. My suggestion is to get a repair manual and see if it's doable by you. I got the RAVE CD on ebay for $15 including shipping. | ||
| Blue (Blue) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue Post Number: 1408 Registered: 04-2003 |
LOL, local dealer quoted me about $1500 for rear main a few years back. I took the disco in for something stupid like programming key fob and they came back with "you need new rear main, new hoses, new belt, new blah blah blah....shall we proceed with the repairs, Sir?" LOL | ||
| eric w siepmann (Cdn001) Member Username: Cdn001 Post Number: 90 Registered: 12-2003 |
Damn Blue, that's the same horseshit I got last time I was at the dealer. Course when I inspected the 3,600 puch list, none of it was in need of repair. Even took it to an old friend who wrenches for a living. I hate dealers. Every last one of them. EwS | ||
| Blue (Blue) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue Post Number: 1412 Registered: 04-2003 |
there's a couple good dealers here on dweb, but I think too many of us have had the attempted screwing. it must be how good looking ladies feel at a cheesy single's bar - everyone makes a lame attempt to pick them up and have their way with them, figuring they have nothing to lose | ||
| Ryan Graham (Ryangraham) Member Username: Ryangraham Post Number: 64 Registered: 01-2004 |
Maybe they are replacing the transmission at the same time. Is there such a thing as a one time use transmission? Anyway, $1700 is to much. Even if they are replacing the oil pan gasket. They just use RTV on that anyway. Removing the transmission cant call for more than 10 hours in the labor guide. My suggestion: At least make them take you out to dinner first. | ||
| Chuck Stroud (Str0ud) New Member Username: Str0ud Post Number: 34 Registered: 02-2004 |
And a reach around! -Str0ud | ||
| mantaray (Mantaray) Member Username: Mantaray Post Number: 165 Registered: 02-2002 |
maybe if i got to take their receptionist to dinner it'd be worth it...... seriously though, the dealership wasn't really a consideration, i just wanted info nd conformation on some things. the rear main was diagnosed by a different shop and they told me outright that they wouldn't do it. | ||
| Bruno Tome (Bruno_tome) Member Username: Bruno_tome Post Number: 91 Registered: 01-2004 |
Quote; "it must be how good looking ladies feel at a cheesy single's bar - everyone makes a lame attempt to pick them up and have their way with them, figuring they have nothing to lose" LOL - where's Mel ? BT. | ||
| Matt Anderson (Disco01) Senior Member Username: Disco01 Post Number: 379 Registered: 10-2003 |
Wow Chuck. If you are wondering what you just ran over back there it was the line. Yep, you crossed right over it. Kidding.Mantaray, what wieght of oil are you using? | ||
| mantaray (Mantaray) Member Username: Mantaray Post Number: 166 Registered: 02-2002 |
Matt - i switched to 15W-50 at my last oil change, Mobil 1 synthetic. it's had synth since about 40K on the odo. it's got about 85K on it now. | ||
| Joe Still (Discojoe) New Member Username: Discojoe Post Number: 5 Registered: 03-2004 |
At 125k miles my 95 D1 is getting CD2 stop leak for a leaky rear main. It has no solids (sets up when it hits air)and if it just stops half the drip it'll be better. There is no way I'd pull a xmission just for a rear main seal if it had serious miles. New or rebuilt motor is in the future anyway. When you calculate the ROI, be sure to factor the week of rental car when it takes you 40 hrs vs the dealers 8hr(no offense intended). Also you're liable to get thrown off the lift if it's working shop come Monday. Then the maintenance creep will get you (those xmission hoses sure look old) and pretty soon you can be in deep for very little return. I had an old International Scout II once where the previous owner had built a sheet metal bracket that held removable sanitary napkin pads to catch the oil weepage from the3 rear main. Talk about anal retentive! BOL(best of luck) | ||
| mantaray (Mantaray) Member Username: Mantaray Post Number: 167 Registered: 02-2002 |
i'm assuming CD2 is an additive? i'd be borrowing a car from my parents or driving my Jeep, and the lift is in a private shop. thanks for the advice though. | ||
| Justin Myers (Jmyerz) New Member Username: Jmyerz Post Number: 5 Registered: 02-2004 |
"When you calculate the ROI, be sure to factor the week of rental car when it takes you 40 hrs vs the dealers 8hr(no offense intended). Also you're liable to get thrown off the lift if it's working shop come Monday. Then the maintenance creep will get you (those xmission hoses sure look old) and pretty soon you can be in deep for very little return." Are you serious? 40 hours to do a rear main yourself? Have you ever done one? If it took you more than 12 hours to do one then you need to step away from your tools. Rear mains are easy. Pull the transmission replace seals, put transmission back in. First time I ever did it took 6 hours of being lazy and slow to do a rear main. These vehicles aren't rocket science. Buy a Factory Service Manual and have at it. Justin | ||
| Blue (Blue) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue Post Number: 1432 Registered: 04-2003 |
Don't forget the PIA factor when calculating ROI... I love the sanitary napkin mod. That is classic. | ||
| Jon Santana (Mustache) Member Username: Mustache Post Number: 135 Registered: 09-2002 |
that myerz guy hurts my feelings. does anyone know how i can get my tiffany & co. keychain to fit in the hole for my DII key? the hole is too small! maybe myerz can use his rad tools to help me do some mods on my keyless entry system. Land Rovers Rule!!! |
