| Author | Message | ||
     Jonathan Good (4n24wd) New Member Username: 4n24wd Post Number: 3 Registered: 03-2004 |
LR newbie here. I'm looking at LR's and ponder which is most reliable and capable for the $$. From what I've read the Series II that came out in 97' is far better due to electronics and who knows what else. I know theres more mods out there for a Disco VS. a 4.0 or 4.6 Range. What should I get folks ? I'm even considering a RRC if I could find one w/less than 100K on the clock. Thoughts folks, I have all day ! Thanks ! | ||
| Alan Yim (Alan) Senior Member Username: Alan Post Number: 1130 Registered: 09-2002 |
Series I Discos are pre 99 (89 - 99 for world and 94 - 99 for NA I believe) Series II Discos came out in 99 and had their electronics switched over to Bosch whereas the D1s had Lucas electronics. They both have their pros and cons. It depends on what you're looking for and what you plan on doing with your truck. You'll find some year D1s more reliable than others and the same goes for the D2s but it really comes down to how well the truck was taken care of before you got it. What are your criteria for the vehicle? | ||
| Matt Anderson (Disco01) Senior Member Username: Disco01 Post Number: 375 Registered: 10-2003 |
I got one for ya. LR Knoxville has a 1994 Black RRC LWB with 82K on the clock. It has no rust, tons of new parts, coil conversion with OME setup, lots of new gaskets, etc. It is black on black with a perfect black leather interior. It was bought a few years ago by a wealthy family who loved the line and they spared no expense in making it perfect. LRK is asking like $10,900. It might be the best LR bargain out there right now. If it was a 2002 its condition would still be excellent if you get my drift. www.landrovercountry.com Matthew | ||
| Matt Anderson (Disco01) Senior Member Username: Disco01 Post Number: 376 Registered: 10-2003 |
http://www.landroverknoxville.com/en_US/PreOwnedVehicleSearch_1.chtml Here is the link. They say 11900 on the site but I think I saw it advertised for 10900. BTW I knew the family and the vehicle was local. | ||
| Jonathan Good (4n24wd) New Member Username: 4n24wd Post Number: 4 Registered: 03-2004 |
I'm looking for a daily driver that's going to be an off-roader as well. If someone has any recommendations on which suits best I'm all ears. I'm relying on what you folks say that'll determine my purchase. As long as a vehicle has been taken fairly good care of is it a fairly even match no matter the rig I choose ? Hook me with some good info, I'm dying over here ! | ||
| Alan Yim (Alan) Senior Member Username: Alan Post Number: 1131 Registered: 09-2002 |
If you're interested in the Discos, do a search on this board for D2s vs D1s and you'll find all the info you need about the strengths and weaknesses of the two. On a general level, D1s have a CDL whereas the D2s don't but they have ETC. Some early D2s can have the CDL retrofitted back in unless you get a 2004 Disco which they've put the CDL back in. The D2s are also longer and a tiny bit wider so can be a hinderance off-road in certain situations. They do have better road manners though due to things like wider wheels (18" vs 16" - but if you plan to wheel it, you won't want to do it on 18" wheels for very long) and other electronic aids like ACE and ETC. However, they do also have more electonics so can be harder to diagnose without a reader and harder to fix. Very early D1s came with a 3.9L whereas the later D1s and all of the D2s except for the 04 (which has a 4.6L) D2 come with the 4.0L. Also early D1s (I think up to 97) have distributors whereas the models afterwards went to EFI. | ||
| Alan E. Foster (Vt_alan) Member Username: Vt_alan Post Number: 59 Registered: 11-2003 |
uhhh .... I think the last carbed Rover in the states was well before the Discos started showing up (sometime w/ the last of the 3.5s in the 1980s RRCs, right?). True, the 94s and 95s have the dizzy, but in 96 they switched to the 4.0, which brought along with it a distributorless system, and a serp. belt, along with the OBDII system, 4 lambda sensors, and probably some other stuff I've forgotten. -Alan | ||
| Alan Yim (Alan) Senior Member Username: Alan Post Number: 1132 Registered: 09-2002 |
"...but in 96 they switched to the 4.0, which brought along with it a distributorless system..." I stand corrected then. | ||
| Shane Lesteberg (Snwbord24) Member Username: Snwbord24 Post Number: 112 Registered: 01-2004 |
As long as we're at it Alan, the 03 D2 also has the 4.6L (but no CDL of course). | ||
| Alan E. Foster (Vt_alan) Member Username: Vt_alan Post Number: 60 Registered: 11-2003 |
Yeah, when it comes to Disco II stuff, I'm completely out of the loop -- I can't remember which ones are which ... didn't they add the CDL back in for '04? | ||
| Alan E. Foster (Vt_alan) Member Username: Vt_alan Post Number: 61 Registered: 11-2003 |
Yes, yes they did ... as already outlined by Alan Yim. Yikes -- I'm really not smart today. | ||
| Shane Lesteberg (Snwbord24) Member Username: Snwbord24 Post Number: 114 Registered: 01-2004 |
Back to the original question. The best LR for <10 grand? It really depends. I can't be narrowed down to a specific type. It really depends on how well the vehicle was taken care of and your personal preference. Test drive some prospects and let us know how it went. | ||
| Alan Yim (Alan) Senior Member Username: Alan Post Number: 1133 Registered: 09-2002 |
Oh yea, I forgot they put the 4.6L in the 03s. I keep lumping the 03s in with the earlier D2s and thinking the 04 is the one with all the major changes. Oops. | ||
| Jonathan Good (4n24wd) New Member Username: 4n24wd Post Number: 5 Registered: 03-2004 |
Ok then. Just a few more quick ?'s then { bare with me } What is CDL and ACE stand for ? I hope I'm right in saying that ETC is Electronic Traction Control but I'm puzzled on the rest. | ||
| Alan Yim (Alan) Senior Member Username: Alan Post Number: 1134 Registered: 09-2002 |
CDL = Center Diff Lock ACE = Active Cornering Enhancement ETC = Electronic Traction Control | ||
| Loyd Stearman (Loydster) New Member Username: Loydster Post Number: 3 Registered: 02-2004 |
OK i have a 2003 disco 2. the manual talks about the CDL but i am not sure if i have it. Is the the differential selector different. mine has h n l imprinted on it. is it possible that some of the 03s have them? how would i find out | ||
| eric johnson (Eric2) Senior Member Username: Eric2 Post Number: 311 Registered: 05-2003 |
Jon(athan), You can find RRC's for around 3K. If you found one with no rust for 3K, you "could" do lots of great upgrades with the remaining $6,999. But since "Its never over in a Rover", keep your credit card handy for that 4.6L engine swap. I'd find good examples of 3.9 RRC's, early DI's (3.9's only), late DI's('99's only) and test drive those...can you even get any DII's for <10K? | ||
| damon (Dcd) New Member Username: Dcd Post Number: 8 Registered: 11-2003 |
Loyd..you don't. | ||
| Jake (Alpineski) New Member Username: Alpineski Post Number: 6 Registered: 03-2004 |
I've seen a DII at auction. I think it was a '99 with right around 100k on the clock. It went for 9500. Older D1's going for 5,500 to 9k. Just saw a nice D1 ('97) with under 60k go for 6,500. Of course that is auction. Would add at least 2k for the lot price. Probably more. | ||
| John Gadd (Roverdude) New Member Username: Roverdude Post Number: 37 Registered: 11-2003 |
Go with the Range Rover Classic 4.2 LWB (Long Wheel Base). It has room to spare for daily driving and long outings. Plus, it will off-road with the best of them. If this unit has spring conversions all you need is an OME lift and now you can tackle most off-road desires. | ||
| David (98disco) New Member Username: 98disco Post Number: 9 Registered: 03-2004 |
Loyd - you have high and low gear range, but not a locking diff. The locking diff. models have "Lock" imprinted on the shifter and a decal on the dash just in front of the shifter with arrows that show how to lock it (left). |
