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DIMITRIS PALAVIDIS (Mitsos)
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Username: Mitsos

Post Number: 5
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

hello everybody!
i was just wandering what are the advantages and disadvantages of leaf sprung vehicles vs coil sprung ones , and vice versa.
thank you all in advance, mitsos.
 

eric johnson (Eric2)
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Username: Eric2

Post Number: 314
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 07:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Call Timm Cooper at BCB. Yu will get a good explanation. He favors leafers. Prolly 'cuz his properly built 107 out-wheeled almost everything at Moab, including some specially built "Rock-Buggies" and it didn't cost a small fortune.
 

Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d)
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Username: Deanbrown3d

Post Number: 1603
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Coils weigh about 1/10 of a leaf, and after a good few years the coils don't look like a heap of rust.
 

Chris Rosato (Zeeto)
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Username: Zeeto

Post Number: 29
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 12:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

coils -
pro: increase departure/approach angle, better on road ride
con: tendency to shift on off-road climbs, more complex to setup

leafs -
pro: easier to install/adjust
con: loss of departure/approach angle

those are the very basic pro/cons
 

Joe M. (Little_joe)
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Username: Little_joe

Post Number: 315
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Leafs locate the axle so you don't need the various links (control arms, track bar, et al). They can flex very well, provide a decent ride - but are quite sensitive to having the proper rates in each leaf. Spring-over-axle setups don't effect approach/departure at all. Full military wraps assure you can get home if a main leaf snaps on the trail. Mismatched and unmaintained leafs ride like crap.

Coils ride better all around due to lack of friction. More complexity in setup and tuning when lifting / trying to achieve flex beyond reason. More things to break. No fun to drive when something does break. Better ride all around. :-)

joe
 

James (Greenmeanie)
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Username: Greenmeanie

Post Number: 5
Registered: 02-2004
Posted on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Being specific to landies, stock coilers are better in almost every way than leafers. However when it comes to modification it is easier to modify the front suspension on a leafer to flex more than on a coiler, that is without doing away with the radius arms altogether. They are the big limiter to increasing front suspension performance. And of course there's no point in modifying the back unless you can do the front too.
 

DIMITRIS PALAVIDIS (Mitsos)
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Username: Mitsos

Post Number: 6
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 06:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Things are much more complex than I thought! I got an idea about what's going on though, so I thank you all guyz!
mitsos
 

Chris Rosato (Zeeto)
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Username: Zeeto

Post Number: 30
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 09:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

actually if it's SOA or SUA they both effect departure/approach angle. I htink Joe meant SOA allows more axle clearance than SUA...

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