| Author | Message | ||
     wayne reyes (Snodog) Member Username: Snodog Post Number: 75 Registered: 07-2003 |
anyone have them,I heard they sag quickly. TIA | ||
| Andy Maier (Newman) Senior Member Username: Newman Post Number: 643 Registered: 04-2003 |
Give me an S Give me an E Give me an A Give me an R Give me an C Give me an H What's that spell?  | ||
| Matt Anderson (Disco01) Senior Member Username: Disco01 Post Number: 384 Registered: 10-2003 |
Andy, it probably took you more time to do all that trickery than simply answer his question. Wayne why would you want to get them over the other springs available.....I am curious? | ||
| wayne reyes (Snodog) Member Username: Snodog Post Number: 76 Registered: 07-2003 |
I found someone locally that has 4 springs med duty for 150. new. Read they sag quicker than OME, also heard bearmach improved them a bit.Lots of mixed opinions (of course).Just hoping to hear a few more things about them before my purchase. thanks Matt. | ||
| Sergei Rodionov (Uzbad) Senior Member Username: Uzbad Post Number: 416 Registered: 08-2003 |
Am i only one who has deja vu about that question and conditions on which it was asked? Wayne - few people here who got them - like them. There was exactly same post like week ago, for same reason. Unless it was you - i am starting to freak out right away  | ||
| Curtis N (Curtis) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Curtis Post Number: 1302 Registered: 05-2002 |
Wayne - disregard Andy. I ran them for a while on a DS2 and am about to try them on a DS1. On relatively unladen vehicles they work well. Start adding winch, bumper, sliders, rear bumper, Engel, etc. and they feel mushy. They have a very linear spring rate as opposed to the OMEs progressive spring rate. What I liked about the BM's is that in an unladen vehicle they performed very well on the trail. On the road they are a little choppy. On the road, fully loaded, at highway speeds with no sway bars they are insanely weak. It all comes down to what you want to do, how your rig is set up, and what type of valving your shocks have. If you do not have winch, bumper, etc. then you may want to give them a shot. | ||
| wayne reyes (Snodog) Member Username: Snodog Post Number: 77 Registered: 07-2003 |
I'm thinking for that price I am going to give them a shot. thanks. | ||
| Andy Maier (Newman) Senior Member Username: Newman Post Number: 645 Registered: 04-2003 |
77 posts, he should be able to do a search. Especially when it was posted a week or so ago. It took me longer to format my first post in this thread than it took for me to find the most recent thread on this topic. About 30 seconds. Just sayin', that's all. | ||
| Curtis N (Curtis) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Curtis Post Number: 1303 Registered: 05-2002 |
Sure you are...and he was just asking. 77 posts tells me he is new around here. 645 posts tells me that you should know how bad the search engine sucks in Discus. The fact that you spent all that time formatting an insult is pretty telling as well. | ||
| Andy Maier (Newman) Senior Member Username: Newman Post Number: 646 Registered: 04-2003 |
Suggesting (albeit sarcastically) that someone search the archives is now verboten? Wow. Things really are changing around here. I guess I'll go ahead and post my question about what sort of lift I'll need to fit 235/85's under the fender... You all are getting soft on new people. | ||
| Curtis N (Curtis) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Curtis Post Number: 1304 Registered: 05-2002 |
No Andy, you are just acting like an ass. I said in the beginning just to disregard you - not that anything was forbidden. Now you keep dragging this on. The guy asked a freaking question and he is new. It is a valid question so why not just answer him if you have an answer. Oh, that right! You don't have a valid answer so you respond like an ass. Keep on going buddy. Lets see how much more ASSinine things you can post today. | ||
| S.C.Young (Youngsc) New Member Username: Youngsc Post Number: 39 Registered: 10-2003 |
I have BB's with Procomp ES9000 shocks on my D1 and think they are just fine. I have no complaints but haven't really had a chance to work 'em yet. On-road ride is much improved over stock. | ||
| Andy Maier (Newman) Senior Member Username: Newman Post Number: 648 Registered: 04-2003 |
OK, here's a valid answer: Search the archives and you'll get lots of opinions, many good, some bad. FWIW, I have the OME MD (764) rears, with RTE HD fronts. I am very happy with them, but seriously considered the Bearmach springs while shopping. Funny how my original answer (search the archives) closely matches the "valid answer" given above by Sergei. Sure, pick on the German guy! Now tear me apart some more, Curtis. You're just the latest in a growing group of Lounge maniacs to do so...but the fact is, lots of people are sick of seeing the same damn newbie posts without apparent efforts to search. Ask Rob Davison, who drove someone away from the site. Or Axel, who stood by and watched it happen. | ||
| Shane Lesteberg (Snwbord24) Member Username: Snwbord24 Post Number: 129 Registered: 01-2004 |
Well, I'm relatively new here but I'm going to throw my opinion out anyway. We may ask questions that are "old hat" to you guys but they're not to us. Hell, some of us don't even know the right questions to ask let alone know what to search for. Seeing these same questions come up help us out alot. Yes, after we're here awhile they'll get annoying to us to I'm sure. If the topic bugs you, don't read it, that's my plan anyway. | ||
| Andy Maier (Newman) Senior Member Username: Newman Post Number: 649 Registered: 04-2003 |
Touche, Shane. I knew this was a topic that just got mentioned, and I read it and posted anyway. You're right, I shouldn't have bothered to read it. Andy | ||
| Melissa (Roverchic) Member Username: Roverchic Post Number: 210 Registered: 02-2004 |
Springs-- I am going OME ..once of course I decide how high to lift her. I rode with a guy last weekend who had them (we took some TOUGH mud and rocks--small suzuki's J/K) and they were very impressive. Hey S.C. (Procomp ES9000) -- I have had good luck with other Procomp access..I used to run them on my Cherokee. Melissa | ||
| Curtis N (Curtis) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Curtis Post Number: 1306 Registered: 05-2002 |
Andy - I read maybe 5% of the threads that are posted and only about 10-20% of the posts in that thread. Why? Because a lot of the stuff is of no interest to me. These days when I click on a topic, it is because I may gain or give some info related to the topic at hand. You, on the other hand, more or less post useless crap like your little S_E_A_R_C_H post above. As far as not picking on Sergei? Well, he was not being an ass. Further, I never picked on you. Nor did I say Sergei's post was "valid". You sure as hell have a way with putting words in peoples mouths. This bring us to Jamie. I will let Rob speak for himself, but no one is "driven" away from this site. They are either banned or they choose to leave. Jamie got pissed at Rob and left. Rob didn't make her do squat. If anyone posts over 1000 posts in less than nine months they are gonna catch hell eventually. Law of averages. If she were not liked and respected she would have been gone long ago. ...and yes - if you keep mouthing off I will keep tearing you up | ||
| David (98disco) New Member Username: 98disco Post Number: 16 Registered: 03-2004 |
Wayne - I'm a guy that approaches things from a cost effective stand point. Having said that, I would suggest looking at what your plans are for your disco. Simply saving some money upfront is not always a good idea. Do you plan on adding a winch or heavy bumpers? How about a roof rack? Would you like to remove the anti-sway bars? If any of these things are in your future plans I would say the medium Bearmachs are not a good choice. Are you planning on using your current shocks if you install the Bearmachs? If so, do they match well with the Bearmachs? These are some of the things I would be considering. I just know that I hate that feeling of buying something and then 3 months down the road regretting it. Personally, I'm an OME heavy believer. The variable rate springs are great. | ||
| Andy Maier (Newman) Senior Member Username: Newman Post Number: 650 Registered: 04-2003 |
Must be tough to be perfect, Curtis. Anyhow, I did post a valid answer: search. Maybe not the most diplomatic way of doing it, but it wasn't Rob's all-out assault a la Jamie, complete with profanity and suggestions to leave. Read that thread, compare Rob's (and Axel's) posts with mine, and then call me an ass. Or better yet, go on any of the millions of other web-based bulletin boards, register as a user, and post a question without first looking for the answer to your question. Then see what happens. You Loungers are getting too soft on new people -- if you devoted half the energy to them that you have to me people would see that damned "search" button and maybe, just maybe, they'd click it once and type "big blue springs." The third or fourth link down was a thread from '02 entitled "Big Blue Springs Opinions." That'd have:
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| Curtis N (Curtis) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Curtis Post Number: 1308 Registered: 05-2002 |
I honestly do not know if you are an ass or not. I just said you are acting like one. For example: why are you dragging this on when my original comment was "Wayne - disregard Andy?" It was really no big deal. I just thought your comment was rude so you had it coming right back at you. The rest of what you say above is nonsensical. | ||
| wayne reyes (Snodog) Member Username: Snodog Post Number: 78 Registered: 07-2003 |
When I searched "bearmach springs"(before my post) I saw 3 results thats why I posted my question. sorry for clearly upsetting some people. | ||
| James M. Reed (Utahdog2003) New Member Username: Utahdog2003 Post Number: 9 Registered: 03-2004 |
The whole 'what should and shouldn't be posted' arguement just boils down to one thing. Interaction. As a new Landy owner, I not only want to get some info on good/bad products, I'm also here to DISCUSS (heck, I might meet one of you cats someday!). If, at less than 10 posts, I'm expected to just spend my time roaming the archives, then you guys don't really need a message board, right? I'm sure that a good FAQ would cover every Spring, Electrical, Tire, etc question you could possibly ask but that aint the point. Lets Talk!! I know this is now way off the point of Wayne's question (which I'm sure is verboten), but good grief! If you think the question is tired then just page back and select a new thread and let somebody helpful tell us dweebs whether a Bearmach Spring is any good! I'll admit it, I wouldn't know a Bearmach Spring if it bit me on my big a$$! | ||
| wayne reyes (Snodog) Member Username: Snodog Post Number: 79 Registered: 07-2003 |
Pulled A search again on "bearmach springs" now I'm getting 23 results? every time I pull the search I get either 3 or 23 results. Oh well. Now my question has been answered.Thanks to all who chimed in positively.And sorry to those whose panties are now in a bunch. | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 926 Registered: 11-2002 |
"kept me from "mouthing off" (your words), kept you from responding, saved a lot of people who already posted in the other thread a boatload of time, and answered his question" Andy there are many other ways we can do that. Why didnt I respond earlier ? Because it was a thread I simply chose not to read because of its title. I suggest the same to you. | ||
| Axel Haakonsen (Axel) Moderator Username: Axel Post Number: 1079 Registered: 02-2003 |
I'm not sure what you are insinuating here, Andy. As i recall, I made a comment after the fact, stating that no rules had been broken and nobody was being banned. - Axel | ||
| eduardo (Jmonsrvr) Member Username: Jmonsrvr Post Number: 91 Registered: 07-2003 |
andy i have been on disco web now for over 3 years under several different names.....and you by far are the biggest ass!! most long term members do tease and poke fun-but more than usual they answer the question...you on the other just made a complete ass of yourself....and then when you reworded your answer it made you look like a fool..... quit being an ass and go find something else to do other than monitoring discoweb sites and getting into ridiculous arguments with people................cheers | ||
| Perry Ray Miller (Discojunky) Member Username: Discojunky Post Number: 148 Registered: 03-2003 |
I am pretty new and have asked some questions that I'm sure could have been answerd by the search but they sometimes don't answer it exactly. Don't get me wrong the search is great and should be used as much as possible but don't we all get on this site to share a passion? If a new member asks a beaten question because he is excited about a new intrest just answer it, ignore it, or tell em' about the search. I don't see the need to bash em'. | ||
| Andy Maier (Newman) Senior Member Username: Newman Post Number: 652 Registered: 04-2003 |
Believe what you will, but it wasn't bashing. Eduardo, I'm the biggest ass on DWeb? LOL You need to read more threads...but you're right: I do need to quit monitoring sites. See ya. | ||
| Mtb (Mtb) Member Username: Mtb Post Number: 51 Registered: 02-2003 |
Wayne I had 2"BM on my 96disco they were ok until I added the ARB bumper and RT sliders and LR rack. It dropped almost 1" when I added them, plus the ride with that setup was not great, without the bumper/sliders& rack the ride was fine. I only had them on for about 3000miles then I went with RT 2" springs they were great, I had 2" lift all around from the stock meassurements and the ride was much nicer(not as mushy as the BM) I know how price can be a factor but for a few more $'s you may want to look at RT or OME Just my $.02 Or if you live near York, PA I am sure I still have the BM's somewhere you can have them if you pick them up and make a donation to our Host Dweb. That offer is for Wayne only | ||
| Matt Anderson (Disco01) Senior Member Username: Disco01 Post Number: 385 Registered: 10-2003 |
Wayne if the guy is selling them locally and they are used you can probably get them cheaper than $150, just when you go to get them brin a $100 bill and see if he refuses it, he probably wont. For that kind of money they would be a good bargain. But, with 2" springs you will need to get some new shocks really soon. | ||
| eduardo (Jmonsrvr) Member Username: Jmonsrvr Post Number: 96 Registered: 07-2003 |
andy i apologize for the harsh words..i woke up on the wrong side of bed that morning...at least you got the jist of what i was saying ...cheers | ||
| Jake Hartley (Jake) Senior Member Username: Jake Post Number: 263 Registered: 03-2002 |
Wayne, you might be better served by looking for some OME or RTE springs here on D-Web. BM does have an ok product, but if you add stuff to your rig, you may not like them so much. Don't worry about asking questions, it is a good way to meet D-Web'ers and learn stuff. Most guys know how iffy the search charactersitics are here and don't flame unless your question is completely inane. Use caution buying used springs, some guys try to unload them because they sag or are otherwise unsuitable. Unless you know the guy or know the product, I would buy new springs. | ||
| Curtis N (Curtis) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Curtis Post Number: 1315 Registered: 05-2002 |
Andy has left the building. Apparently he deleted his own account. Eduardo - don't take it as your fault. | ||
| David (98disco) New Member Username: 98disco Post Number: 36 Registered: 03-2004 |
My two cents: (1.)If you want to learn ask questions. Doesn't matter if others have asked it. The same goes for "newbies" and veterans. (2.) Don't assume that because someone is new to the forum that they don't know anything, or don't have something to offer. |
