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Tarek Khalil (Pharaohdisco)
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Post Number: 41
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

OME762 and OME763 rear springs have the same length (16.5" DS - 16.1" PS). Therefore in a 3" OME suspension lift setup why use 1" spacers in the rear when fitting the OME762 rear springs and 1.5" spacers when installing the OME763 rear springs. Shouldn't the spacer thickness be the same when fitting either spring?
 

Matt Anderson (Disco01)
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Post Number: 395
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The OME springs are actually not much taller than the stock springs, yet becuase of their firmer rate they don't compress as much in use, meaning the vehicle sits higher. The stiffer the spring the higher it will sit, thus the need for the bigger spacer on the stiffer 763.
Matthew
 

Tarek Khalil (Pharaohdisco)
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Post Number: 42
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Matt, something there I do not understand. A stiffer spring will sit higher, meaning it will provide more height, therefore when adding a bigger spacer on the stiffer 763, a larger lift will be acheived than when using the 762's with the 1" spacer and the height of both systems is not the same.
 

Matt Anderson (Disco01)
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Post Number: 397
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ok Tarek.........I am an idiot. I guess I got it backwards, you would need the taller spacer with the 762. Sorry bout that.
Matthew
 

Tarek Khalil (Pharaohdisco)
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Post Number: 44
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 02:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Matt, you are ofcourse right, the taller spacer, i.e. 1.5" should go on the 762 springs which are a bit softer. The Expedition Exchange website states on the OME springs page in their description for the 3" OME lift setup that the spacer thickness should be 1.5" for the 763 springs and 1" for the 762 springs. Is this a typing mistake or can the EE people explain?
 

Alan Bates (Alanb)
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Post Number: 516
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The only reason to use the 1.5" spacers is if you carry very heavy loads.

From EE website:

Ho's Discovery Series I is fitted with Old Man Emu springs but has a 3" lift over the factory height. He is able to achieve this 3" of lift by fitting 764 springs in the front, 763 springs in the rear, and 1.5" Spring Spacers below the rear springs. 762 rear springs and 1.0" Spring Spacers would achieve a nearly identical height, but Ho fitted the 763 springs and 1.5" Spring Spacers because he carries very heavy loads on long trips.
 

Tarek Khalil (Pharaohdisco)
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Post Number: 45
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yes, Alan I read that paragraph on the EE website and it says that " 762 REAR SPRINGS AND 1" SPRING SPACERS WOULD ACHIEVE AN IDENTICAL HEIGHT " as 763 springs in the rear and 1.5" spring spacers, which is incorrect as you will have a 0.5" larger height if you install the 1.5" spring spacers together with the 763 springs. Correct me if I am wrong. Ofcourse you could use this extra height to have the vehicle leveled when it is loaded.
 

Ho Chung (Thediscoho)
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Post Number: 724
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

tarek,

you'd achieve identical height if you didn't carry the same heavy load that i do.


Ho Chung
 

Tarek Khalil (Pharaohdisco)
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Username: Pharaohdisco

Post Number: 46
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 04:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ho, can you please elaborate. Do you mean that identical height will be achieved if you used 1" spring spacers for both springs, 762's and 763's and did not carry heavy loads.
And if using 1.5" spring spacers with the 763 rear springs the vehicle will stand 0.5" higher with no load compared to a vehicle with 762's and 1" spring spacers with no load.
 

Ho Chung (Thediscoho)
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Post Number: 728
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

LOL, let's try again,

762 + 1.0 + no load = 763 + 1.5 + lots of load.
762 + 1.0 + x load < 763 + 1.0 + x load.

makes sense?


Ho Chung
 

Will Selden (Ncrcwill)
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Post Number: 36
Registered: 02-2004
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"762 + 1.0 + no load = 763 + 1.5 + lots of load.
762 + 1.0 + x load < 763 + 1.0 + x load."

Assume linear spring rate for 763 is 360 lb/in and 762 is 300 lb/in

Then lots of load = (2) * {(1.5in)*(360lb/in) - (1.0in)*(300lb/in)} = 480 pounds

Will
 

Tarek Khalil (Pharaohdisco)
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Username: Pharaohdisco

Post Number: 47
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 04:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks for the detailed elaboration.
 

Bazzle (Bazzle)
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Post Number: 121
Registered: 09-2003
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 04:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

ROFL :-) :-)

Bazzle

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