| Author | Message | ||
     Beau Campbell (Bcampbe7) New Member Username: Bcampbe7 Post Number: 32 Registered: 03-2004 |
I was curious as to what people thought about a GBR custom driveshaft versus a Tom Wood's custom driveshaft? I am going to purchase one or the other this week and was wondering if one was better than the other. Tom's drive shaft is a little cheaper shipped to my door than the GBR. Does anyone have any experience with either? I saw both in the tech section, but am curious as to if one is better than the other. Beau | ||
| Kris Carlquist (Kris_carlquist) New Member Username: Kris_carlquist Post Number: 39 Registered: 09-2003 |
Hard to go wrong with a Woody. I don't know about the GBR, but the Wood's shafts are top rate. My rear shaft on my CJ is a Wood's, and it is great, I have had no problems. | ||
| Randy Maynard (Rans) Senior Member Username: Rans Post Number: 814 Registered: 08-2002 |
Tom Woods makes shafts for all brands, GBR (Bill) makes shafts for Land Rovers. Bill knows Land Rovers. Bill knows what works and what doesn't work on Land Rovers. Bill's stuff fits. Bill is one of us. Last but not least, if something goes wrong with your truck, 167 miles from nowhere and you call Tom Woods, is he gonna help you resolve your Land Rover problem? | ||
| david summers (Texmoto) Member Username: Texmoto Post Number: 119 Registered: 12-2002 |
FWIW, I have a GBR rear HD on my Dll. I have been pleased with it, especially since it eliminated the rotoflex joint. I've have it on for about 6 months now. And I too, have received great service from Bill. | ||
| Brian Dickens (Bri) Senior Member Username: Bri Post Number: 1066 Registered: 08-2002 |
GBR front and rear here. Bill is very helpful and knowledgable. Talk to him for a while and explore his options. Then after speaking with him it will all be clear. | ||
| Beau Campbell (Bcampbe7) New Member Username: Bcampbe7 Post Number: 33 Registered: 03-2004 |
Thanks for the input... I ordered the GBR custom this afternoon. Bill was/is very helpful. Beau | ||
| Jack Quinlan (Jsq) Senior Member Username: Jsq Post Number: 633 Registered: 10-2002 |
so when you get the GBR shaft is it always green? i'm not particularly taken with that look. just curious. | ||
| Brian Dickens (Bri) Senior Member Username: Bri Post Number: 1072 Registered: 08-2002 |
Always green.... until you hammer it and have to have a ujoint replaced and re-balance. Then likely it will end up the color of the local DS repair shop. Complete with their sticker too! I like the look, but who cares its under the vehicle. | ||
| Steve Turpin (Steveturpin) Member Username: Steveturpin Post Number: 72 Registered: 01-2004 |
I've got the TW shaft in the front of my D2...works great, and is built like a tank... | ||
| Beau Campbell (Bcampbe7) New Member Username: Bcampbe7 Post Number: 36 Registered: 03-2004 |
Who cares if it is green? If someone is able to see it, the truck will be upside down and the green drive shaft will be the least of my worries... | ||
| Sergei Rodionov (Uzbad) Senior Member Username: Uzbad Post Number: 478 Registered: 08-2003 |
BTW - you can order TW shafts in any color you like  Pity i found it out only after i got mines. | ||
| Jack Quinlan (Jsq) Senior Member Username: Jsq Post Number: 638 Registered: 10-2002 |
i care if it's green. i'll be looking at it when i'm greasing it or changing the fluid on the tcase or somesuch. i think i'm entitled to that preference. | ||
| James M. Reed (Utahdog2003) Member Username: Utahdog2003 Post Number: 71 Registered: 03-2004 |
how about some more in depth posts from the TW or GBR users out there. I know I'm seeing some posts from folks touting alot of eqiupment as being pulletproof, and then in other places on the boards they are refering to their driving style as "light off-roading". I think my rotoflex-and-friends is fine for that, so lets get some feedback from some folks who've pounded on their trucks a bit. "a GBR took me to Costa Rica" story?...or maybe a "My Woods has more slick rock rubbage scars than a cheap ho's knees and it still twists just fine" post? Note: 'ho' is NOT capitalized! ;) | ||
| Steve Turpin (Steveturpin) Member Username: Steveturpin Post Number: 73 Registered: 01-2004 |
I got my TW front shaft at 70K, primarily to avoid the non-servicable front joint on my D2 from coming apart and taking out everything in it's path. Those D2 front shafts are particularly vulnerable when the truck has been lifted. Haven't really pounded it yet, but one look tells you it is extremely well built. | ||
| Joey (Joey4420) Senior Member Username: Joey4420 Post Number: 763 Registered: 04-2003 |
James, I am not sure that Ho will like the fact that you have referred to him as cheap or on his knees Sorry, but I just couldn't help myself. | ||
| James M. Reed (Utahdog2003) Member Username: Utahdog2003 Post Number: 76 Registered: 03-2004 |
wouldn't be the first time I got my butt kicked...probably not the last. I'll just hand him the Amex, dump the college fund into about 9 big crazy Hellas and maybe he'll let by-gones be by-gones! Don't cut me off Ho!! | ||
| Eric N (Eric_n) Member Username: Eric_n Post Number: 95 Registered: 01-2004 |
I have both GBR shafts and Tom Woods shafts. I found that the Tom Woods shafts are balanced better. If you get vibes when you put it on, take it to a local shop and have them test it for balance and also have them look at the adapter for run out. You'll be fine with either as they can both take a beating. Some are just balanced better then others and some of the adapters are off. High Angle makes nice drive shafts as well. | ||
| Kelly Fristoe (Kfristoe) Member Username: Kfristoe Post Number: 159 Registered: 12-2002 |
I've got to go out on a limb here and tell you all that I've had nothing but trouble with my GBR. I have had vibration issues from the beginning. Bill told me that I just happen to fall into that 1% of people who have these kinds of problems. Maybe he's right. I'm not trying slam him here but the pain from my frustration over this deal is about the same as being kicked right square in the balls. The diagnosis of tracking down the vibration has cost me more money and then the rebalance of the shafts have cost me money. And something that cost as much as the front driveshaft with the adapter flange and then the rear drive shaft with the rotoflex conversion kit - you would think would come without those kind of issues. I have contacted Bill to see what his opinion is to craft a resolution to these issues. I'll keep you posted. Just wanted to throw this out there and ask if anyone else has had this happen with the GBR stuff. | ||
| Beau Campbell (Bcampbe7) New Member Username: Bcampbe7 Post Number: 38 Registered: 03-2004 |
I should have the driveshaft this weekend, so we will see. I thought I read somewhere that when changing from the rotoflex to u-joints you could have some vibration issues. I may be way off here. Also, Eric or Kelly, do either of you have a lift? Beau | ||
| Kelly Fristoe (Kfristoe) Member Username: Kfristoe Post Number: 160 Registered: 12-2002 |
Yes, I have the OME Heavy Duty lift which gave me about 3 inches. I didn't have vibration issues until I put the shafts on. | ||
| Eric N (Eric_n) Member Username: Eric_n Post Number: 96 Registered: 01-2004 |
Beau, yes I had 2 inches up to 4 inches of lift with the GBRs.. I still have the 4 inches of lift with the Tom Woods though I am running Double Double Cardon shafts at this time. You may not have any issues as most people don't. So don't worry about it until/if you do. Kelly, check the adapter. It probably doesn't spin true.. See if you can find someone that has a Dial Test Indicator and check the run out of the adapter by setting it up and then spinning the shaft slowly by hand while still installed on the truck. You may find that the adapter causes the shaft to spin a little off center. Just a guess but, it is also something to look at if you are still trying to figure it out. | ||
| Justin Myers (Jmyerz) New Member Username: Jmyerz Post Number: 24 Registered: 02-2004 |
Jess at High Angle Driveline. By far the most durable and fair priced drive lines out there, most ARCA run his shafts and see way more hardcore abuse than any of us hope to see. Justin | ||
| Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp) Member Username: Steve_rupp Post Number: 226 Registered: 03-2003 |
Kelly, Start a post about vibs. Ask how many people have vibes that they can't get rid of. I bet you'll be suprised. I just helped my brother put a 3" lift on his disco. No corrected radius arms, no corrected rear links, stock front and rear driveshafts. NO VIBS. I don't get it. With the 3" on my 94, I could not single out the vibs. I tried Tom woods, Bill Davis, driving with the driveshafts out, corrected the angles perfectly, etc. Nothing worked. Some disco's are cursed. I will be working on my 99 in a couple of weeks, I'll post on how it went. I'm crossing my fingers for no vibs. Not very optmistic though. Jack, I prefer to work with Bill Davis. I won't knock Tom Woods. They both have great customer service. Both of them guaranteed me a balanced shaft or my money back. Tom Woods was going to pick up the shipping costs. So I think both of them build great products. The most important thing is that you give them the correct measurements. Don't guess on lengths or let them guess for you. Disco's can vary from one to another. Also, I'm sure Bill Davis could find some black paint around the shop. Bill is a great guy to work with. Just make sure you have some time when you call him. He likes to talk! | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Dweb Lounge Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 2704 Registered: 02-2002 |
My GBRs have not taken me to Costa Rica or the moon. But I am vibe free with a 3" lift. | ||
| Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp) Member Username: Steve_rupp Post Number: 232 Registered: 03-2003 |
Paul, you may be one of the lucky ones. Hopefully I will be too. | ||
| Beau Campbell (Bcampbe7) Member Username: Bcampbe7 Post Number: 44 Registered: 03-2004 |
Just got finished installing the GBR custom. The initial test drive produced no vibes. I think it actually rides better than it has since we bought it. |
