| Author | Message | ||
     Richard Barrows (Gunslingersix) New Member Username: Gunslingersix Post Number: 2 Registered: 03-2004 |
Has anyone out there tried to install the aftermarket xeon headlights into a Disco? If so, could someone tell me a good place to purchase them? I would like to try them out, but if anyone has any reason that I shouldn't do this, please let me know. Thanks for the help! | ||
| C�sar G�mez (Hks3sgte) New Member Username: Hks3sgte Post Number: 7 Registered: 03-2004 |
They are called Xenon lights. Before you make a decision like putting in Xenon lights, you should read this link and educate yourself a bit about automotive lighting. http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html Quote:"Trying to 'convert' halogen headlamps to HID (Xenon) is an unsafe thing to do. There are *NO* legitimate or safe HID retrofits for the headlamps of any car which didn't have HID lamps as a factory option." | ||
| Steve Turpin (Steveturpin) Member Username: Steveturpin Post Number: 70 Registered: 01-2004 |
I think he is referring to the numerous blue or white Xenon looking replacement bulbs which are available...some of them work quite well and offer better visibility, just make sure and go with a quality bulb rated at the same wattage as the factory spec bulbs, so you don't run into any heat issues... | ||
| Craig Kobayashi (Koby) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Koby Post Number: 1237 Registered: 02-2002 |
I didn't know that Intel made headlights for servers...  | ||
| KC Jacob (Kcjacob) New Member Username: Kcjacob Post Number: 21 Registered: 02-2003 |
Richard, I currently use Sylvania Silverstar 9003ST in my 95 Disco. They provide good lighting for my needs. They cost somewhere around $45 if I remember correctly. I had looked into upgrading to Xenon (HID) kit, but found that it was really expensive and a lot of work to get it working. The Silverstar series seems to work well and they are street-legal too. | ||
| Richard Barrows (Gunslingersix) New Member Username: Gunslingersix Post Number: 3 Registered: 03-2004 |
Sorry, I did mean the xenon (left out an "n") replacement bulbs, not the conversion kit. I have seen several manufactures offering these and just wondered if they would be worth the money. Thanks for the info guys! | ||
| C�sar G�mez (Hks3sgte) New Member Username: Hks3sgte Post Number: 8 Registered: 03-2004 |
Well, again, from the same website - http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/blue/bad/bad.html - those bulbs that are advertised as being brighter or whiter can actually be worse than having a plain 'ol halogen bulb... Quote: "Various companies and individuals are selling halogen headlamp bulbs with blue or purplish-blue glass. There are lots of spurious claims made for these bulbs. They're falsely advertised as 'Xenon bulbs' or 'HID bulbs', the blue glass is claimed to 'force the bulb to perform at a higher level', and there are seemingly endless amounts of pseudoscience aimed at enticing buyers who want better performance from their headlamps. In fact, these bulbs reduce headlamp performance while increasing dangerous glare." | ||
| Shane Lesteberg (Snwbord24) Member Username: Snwbord24 Post Number: 162 Registered: 01-2004 |
dude, do you work for them or something? | ||
| jordan michael blankenbecler (Jordansdisco) Member Username: Jordansdisco Post Number: 50 Registered: 03-2003 |
I got some off ebay not to expensive increased visibility greatly. They look nice to but they only last about 4 months then you have to get new ones. The only risk is causing a heat issues with wiring harness for your lights. | ||
| Jack Leitch (Liveattheedge) Senior Member Username: Liveattheedge Post Number: 332 Registered: 12-2003 |
i got eurolite blue tint xenon, greatly improved visability and it gives it the expensive bright light blue tint look, not too blue, just a b hue. I'm about a year in and they havn't failed me! Greatest $40 i've spent on the car, got them at circuit city of all places. You don't need HID lighting systems on your car anyway, thats what driving lights are for  Cheers Jack | ||
| Jack Leitch (Liveattheedge) Senior Member Username: Liveattheedge Post Number: 333 Registered: 12-2003 |
i think you can take them back into circuit city no questions asked if they fail you within a certain time frame. I never had that issue. | ||
| Robert Rubenzik (Hazilim) New Member Username: Hazilim Post Number: 11 Registered: 11-2002 |
I installed IPF "Magic Bulbs", H4. Perfect replacement; much brighter than stock halogen, same current draw. | ||
| Dave Statler (Falconx84) Member Username: Falconx84 Post Number: 192 Registered: 02-2004 |
I got mine @ walmart, they're super blue or something. less than $20/pair, a little brighter than stock and without the yellow-brown tint of stock bulbs | ||
| Eric (Epuffy) Member Username: Epuffy Post Number: 170 Registered: 07-2003 |
I messed around with a retrofit.. don't waste your time. You'll get a super bright crappy beam pattern blob of white light. Looks pretty cool, but totally not functional and practical for the amount of moola you'll need to spend. Just get some good H4 bulbs, and upgrade your wiring harness if you really want some good light output. Land Rover lights are pretty good and bright anyways! E-mail me if you want more details. | ||
| quentin charles neil ross (Qcnr) Member Username: Qcnr Post Number: 69 Registered: 10-2003 |
Try PIAA bulbs Expensive but work and most are legal... | ||
| Glenn Guinto (Glenn) Senior Member Username: Glenn Post Number: 866 Registered: 02-2002 |
Such a small price to pay to get that 'bling' factor...  Glenn | ||
| jordan michael blankenbecler (Jordansdisco) Member Username: Jordansdisco Post Number: 51 Registered: 03-2003 |
yeah bling bling | ||
| Matt Anderson (Disco01) Senior Member Username: Disco01 Post Number: 421 Registered: 10-2003 |
I too tried the Eurolites by Toucan from Circtuit City. What a bunch of crap. Please dont waste your money on these things. They only ones that work well are the PIAA, Wagner TruView(not yet available in 9003), Sylavania Silverstars, IPF, and some Hellas not available in the US. Please dont fall victim to this garbage. The last ones I mentioned work well but they dont give the real blue light look. Common sense tells us that tinted glass blocks light, and it is no different on headlights. BTW, over the years I have fooled around with the Eurolites, APC, and a few other cheapies. I have silverstars and they do not look like HID but are bright. Matthew | ||
| Bruce Potier (Brucep) Member Username: Brucep Post Number: 156 Registered: 06-2003 |
I am with Robert, IPF (part number M17),they are H4 12V 55/60W Max White Blue Afterglow, little element glows errie blue and continues to glow long after the lights are off. I have had mine for over 18 months, no problems and the output if fantastic. It gets rid of that yellowish light and at night in the woods, it helps alot. | ||
| David Huddleson (Dhuddleson) New Member Username: Dhuddleson Post Number: 35 Registered: 09-2003 |
Another similar bulb to the Sylvania, are the Philips VisionPlus bulbs, which also draw only standard wattage. They do provide a whiter light output, but are not advertised as those "blue" bulbs. Have only seen them online, such as at http://autolamps-online.com at $28 a pair. Not exactly "HID" if that is what you are trying to achieve, but more visible light if that is what you want... | ||
| Stephen Hawkins (Madmole) Member Username: Madmole Post Number: 56 Registered: 07-2003 |
There have been several test in the UK car mags of bulbs and the Sylvania Superstar and Phillip Vison plus win every time (almost identical performance) Its not just how bright and white they are but how in focus the light is a well thats important Certain very expensive lights that you would expect to do well have universally done pretty poorly in these real life tests Check out http://www.powerbulbs.com/ and http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/?http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/product_test/product_ test_index.php | ||
| C�sar G�mez (Hks3sgte) New Member Username: Hks3sgte Post Number: 10 Registered: 03-2004 |
One thing to remember is that you can not get "brighter" light out of a bulb that is the same wattage as your original bulb. If you have 55W bulbs and you buy the rip-off "whiter-brighter-bluer" lights that are also rated at 55W, how would they be brighter? You can't increase the brightness by making it LOOK brighter. Also, a blue filter on a bulb doesn't increase brightness. If anything, that blue filter only blocks most of the spectrum of light available by only letting the blue section of the spectrum to leave the bulb. In my opinion, if you want good, strong lights, all you have to do is upgrade your wiring and buy some good quality CLEAR bulb (not blue tinted, Xenon-HID wanna-be cheap lights... including those from PIAA). | ||
| Stephen Hawkins (Madmole) Member Username: Madmole Post Number: 57 Registered: 07-2003 |
The wattage is only a guide to the britghtness, its easy to have 2 55W lamps with different brightnesses, just compare a PIAA 55w with Sylvania Supestar 55W, the PIAA looks dim and yellow and measures far less lumens on a light tunnel. The diffenerence in my disco from binning the PIAA's and going to Sylvania's was amazing The 55W goes to produce light AND HEAT, the better bulbs produce less of the latter. Also the better bulbs focus the light so its more effective Real world testing with a lightmeter is the only way to compare bulbs. The same bulbs win the shootouts year after year |
