| Author | Message | ||
     Mark Ley (Markymark25er) New Member Username: Markymark25er Post Number: 1 Registered: 04-2004 |
Ok here it is. I ponyed up the money for a stock brush gaurd for my 96 Disco. Well I know now that I made a mistake. I didn't like the look of ARB or Safari Gard at first. Now I love how the both look. Especially because there is more clearance in the front. Besides that, my biggest disappointment with safari gard bumper is the thin sides on the bumper but everything else is great. The skid plate on the Safari Gard looks great underneath the bumper. The ARB bumper looks great except for the skid plate underneath. Anyway which one is better? If you have had both, please tell me which one you liked best. Thanks Mark | ||
| Jack Leitch (Liveattheedge) Senior Member Username: Liveattheedge Post Number: 349 Registered: 12-2003 |
rovertym, safari gard looks the best i think but it took them 5 months to complete my order. ARB is just too much of a hinderence off road. If you don't like the skinnyness of the safarigard you probably won't like the rovertym one, but safari gard and rovertym are much more functional than the ARB bumper. Cheers Jack | ||
| Pugsly (Pugsly) Senior Member Username: Pugsly Post Number: 360 Registered: 11-2002 |
ARB is heavy iron, looks a bit better hanging from a Defender. Heard too many horror stories about $G to go with them. What about TJM? | ||
| Sergei Rodionov (Uzbad) Senior Member Username: Uzbad Post Number: 488 Registered: 08-2003 |
Mark - none  Look beyound - there are other models available. $G takes forever (according to all people here) to build, and it flexes. ARB is good if you riding through crowds to smash something, but if you ever go in places with difficult approach/departure angles - you will curse yourself for getting it (it decreases angle A LOT). Keep looking Or you can bug Kyle to make you one, may be he will eventually give up. | ||
| Loyd Stearman (Loydster) New Member Username: Loydster Post Number: 16 Registered: 02-2004 |
so the arb decreases the approach angle from stock? | ||
| Sergei Rodionov (Uzbad) Senior Member Username: Uzbad Post Number: 491 Registered: 08-2003 |
Loyd - everything that sticks out further than your existing stock bumper (with airdam removed) will essentually decrease angle. Most of aftermarket bumpers/guards do it. It just varies from manufacturer to manufacturer. I seen trucks with ARBs (not only LR ones)literally plowing their ways through sand and rocks on descends, where ones with stock bumper just walked away. You basically sacrificing angle to get cool aftermarket bumper winch mounted/better protection/lights mounted. Amount of sacrifice of course depends on your lift+tires and bumper model. | ||
| Sandy Grice (Apg) Member Username: Apg Post Number: 53 Registered: 02-2003 |
I don't see how the Safari Gard bumper can flex - unless the design has been changed. I've used the outer corner of mine for jacking with the Hi-Lift and it's hell-for-stout. BTW, a skid plate helps create an *awesome* bow wave when fording. Cheers | ||
| James M. Reed (Utahdog2003) Member Username: Utahdog2003 Post Number: 96 Registered: 03-2004 |
question along same lines. I'm considering the Rovertym for my DiscoII, and I don't think I want the A or Full Brush versions. Can anyone point me in the right direction to get a peek at the RT without A or Bush on a DiscoII? | ||
| Justin Myers (Jmyerz) New Member Username: Jmyerz Post Number: 26 Registered: 02-2004 |
Anyone know where I can get a Rover Solutions one? | ||
| Matthew A. Barnes (Discoveryxd) Senior Member Username: Discoveryxd Post Number: 550 Registered: 08-2003 |
Kyle builds the Rover Solutions bumper. Whether or not he'll build more...? That's a mystery to me. I'm pretty sure he gets asked that question a LOT, but only he knows for sure. There have been other threads on it before. As far as which bumper to get? Go with RTE. There's so many people (including me) who are happy with Steve and John's work/customer service. You can't go wrong with RTE. I've heard better about TJM over ARB. IF you want a bumper that BIG... Matt | ||
| Tom Fioretti (Tom_in_md) Member Username: Tom_in_md Post Number: 176 Registered: 02-2003 |
I've had the $G for three years. In retrospect, I should have gone with RTE. I got a close look at one this past week. Doesn't stick out as far as the $G and has a much thicker skid plate. I've had no problems with the $G, but the RTE looks a hell of alot stronger and has a better approach angle. They also offer a "slim line" version that omitts the A-frame. It's cheaper too. $625 for slim line, $825 for A-frame vs $950 for $G. Since you're on the left coast you may want to check into shipping costs. | ||
| Greg French (Gregfrench) Senior Member Username: Gregfrench Post Number: 773 Registered: 11-2002 |
My ARB looks real good, but I am alwayd getting stuck because of it. I am getting rid of it and getting a RTE or something less obtrusive. | ||
| Matthew A. Barnes (Discoveryxd) Senior Member Username: Discoveryxd Post Number: 553 Registered: 08-2003 |
I purchased my Slimline w/A-Bar and the shipping from Midlothian, VA. to Reno NV was $156. | ||
| Brian Dickens (Bri) Senior Member Username: Bri Post Number: 1092 Registered: 08-2002 |
I would not go ARB. They are not that heavy and if you really use it to get up on something it will at a very minimum munch the tow points on the under part of the bumper. They also bend and dent. I have Rockware and love it, but I believe Matt still requires the vehicle for installation which means that you will have to come out to CO for a visit. | ||
| Kelly Fristoe (Kfristoe) Member Username: Kfristoe Post Number: 165 Registered: 12-2002 |
I pick up my rig this weekend. It's getting an ARB put on. I ARB basically donated it to me in exchange for them using my rig to display at thier booth at an off road show in Dallas this weekend. I couldn't pass it up. They are also donating a snorkle. Swwwwwweeeeeetttt! | ||
| Chris Nuzum (Cnuzum) Member Username: Cnuzum Post Number: 136 Registered: 02-2003 |
Must be tough Kelly. | ||
| Matthew A. Barnes (Discoveryxd) Senior Member Username: Discoveryxd Post Number: 557 Registered: 08-2003 |
Free Snorkel... damn kelly, YOU'RE LUCKY! | ||
| Greg Tearne (Gooddoggomez) Member Username: Gooddoggomez Post Number: 75 Registered: 02-2003 |
Dude, I have a 02 Disco with ARB. Now have 9500lb winch enclosed on my arb bar. if you want to push it - go $G ARB works for me DII - 265/75xr16 fixes evrything | ||
| Mark Ley (Markymark25er) New Member Username: Markymark25er Post Number: 3 Registered: 04-2004 |
I appreciate all of your inputs. I am looking forward to getting rid of my stock bursh bar and going to probably a Safari Gaurd. For the most part I do like how the look. Definatly better than the stock one. Also I do like the fact that you can put 3 hellas in the front. More importantly i like the functionality of the Safari Gaurd. If anyone knows anything else let me know. | ||
| Mark Ley (Markymark25er) New Member Username: Markymark25er Post Number: 4 Registered: 04-2004 |
I read a thing online from safari gard that you if you want the rock gard plate for underneath the bumper that you must purchase the plate at the same time as the bumper/gaurd, Is this true? If so, then why? | ||
| Jack Leitch (Liveattheedge) Senior Member Username: Liveattheedge Post Number: 352 Registered: 12-2003 |
hastle safari gard about ur order otherwise it will take them 6 months. great product, ass service Cheers Jack | ||
| Greg Tearne (Gooddoggomez) Member Username: Gooddoggomez Post Number: 76 Registered: 02-2003 |
How many ARB bars can you fit in that time? | ||
| Art Vigil (Colorover) Senior Member Username: Colorover Post Number: 263 Registered: 02-2003 |
Go with $afari Gard, the excellent service alone makes the experience worth the added expense. Their products really aren't that much lower quality compared to the others out there. | ||
| Rick Neff (Lostinboston) Senior Member Username: Lostinboston Post Number: 422 Registered: 06-2003 |
Art, Excellent service with $G? What??? I think their quality is great, just maybe not as much steel as an RTE. I think RTE has the best service of anyone i dealt with. Discountrovers is high up there to. Mark, You "need" to order the skid plate at the same time b/c i believe that they make the set together to fit together properly. Although i ordered mine together and it didnt fit. I had to redrill the holes for the skidplate, ans trim the bar mounting bracket a bit. Although by the time it arrived i was so happy it was finally here and i could take off my cracked up bumper and mount my winch that i didnt care much. kelly, lucky dog, i'm still waiting to bump into a red bull advertising exec who wants to turn my rig into a billboard. or similar company. | ||
| Sandy Grice (Apg) Member Username: Apg Post Number: 55 Registered: 02-2003 |
There are three or four little tabs that need to be welded onto the bottom rear edge of the bumper to secure the top edge of the skid plate in one continuous plane. This work needs to be done before the unit gets sent out for powder coating and is an option. Even if you don't buy the skid plate at the present time, it's nice to have that option in the future. The Safari Gard does have three tabs for lights, but the center one is usually used to mount the control box for the winch. Many states actually have laws prohibiting three auxillary lights. (Virginia is one) You can have two or you can have four. You can't have three. Go figure. I ran with three for years 'til I saved up enough for a winch. Now I want to mount that control box behind the grill...which means reworking the air filter box area and where the OEM jack is stored. Hmmmmm...snorkel time, maybe.... Cheers | ||
| trevor griffiths (Trevorgriffiths) Senior Member Username: Trevorgriffiths Post Number: 263 Registered: 11-2002 |
I have a RTE slimline a-frame, the prototype RTE rear, RTE sliders, RTE springs, RTE cones, RTE shock mounts, RTE supplied brake lines, RTE adjustable panhard rod, RTE trailing arms, RTE radius arms, RTE track rods and a RTE t-shirt. I cannot speak more highly of Steve and John for their quality and customer service. Plus, they're fun to hang out with! I have fitted ARB and SG to customers vehicles and often use my Disco to demonstrate the advantages and differences between the various products. I think many people enjoy the fact that RTE offers other pieces that ARB and SG don't, and the RTE stuff works well as a package or in stages. | ||
| Tom Fioretti (Tom_in_md) Member Username: Tom_in_md Post Number: 183 Registered: 02-2003 |
Good God Art ! I hope someone from $G is reading this. You're in for a shit load of free products ! I always suspected there was someone out there with a positive $G service experiance. Quality of the bumper is excellent. My service experiance with $G? Very different from yours. | ||
| Tom Fioretti (Tom_in_md) Member Username: Tom_in_md Post Number: 184 Registered: 02-2003 |
LOL Hi Trevor ! Yes, your truck is a regular RTE product showcase. Thanks for your help this week on my truck. Nice Job, Treasured Motorcar Services! I can't make it to Paragon this weekend, hope to make it next outing. Thanks for the offer, though. | ||
| Jack Leitch (Liveattheedge) Senior Member Username: Liveattheedge Post Number: 353 Registered: 12-2003 |
art, you got good service from $G????!!! ur joking right. I placed my order in early october only to have recieved everything last week. Cheers Jack |
