| Author | Message | ||
     Davis Reed (Davis_reed) Member Username: Davis_reed Post Number: 52 Registered: 04-2003 |
I wanted to let everyone know of a big scam out of Nigeria. I posted my 18" Prolines for sale on this website and www.roverconnection.com for $750. I recieved an email from a guy who was interested in purchasing them so I sent him pics and the usual stuff. He said that he wanted to purchase them and that he was overseas. The catch was he had to send me $3,000 dollars extra to pay his shipper because he couldn't pay the him.He said it would take 30 days for another check to clear. This just sounded to fishy. When I got the check I called the bank that was on the check and they told me it had been stolen from them. What he wanted me to do was send 3,000 into his account to "pay the shipper" and then he would "pick them up." The check would have clear because it was real but wouldn't have come up as a forgery until it recirculated back to the home bank. Meanwhile, I could have potentially given him 3,000 of real cash while I had been given fake money. I wouldn't have lost the money, but the bank would have. Everything just didn't seem right from the start and luckily my notion served me well. Don't fall for the SCAM! Davis | ||
| Axel Haakonsen (Axel) Moderator Username: Axel Post Number: 915 Registered: 02-2003 |
Yes, that's a fairly common scam. If something sounds too good to be true, it usually is. - Axel | ||
| Davis Reed (Davis_reed) Member Username: Davis_reed Post Number: 53 Registered: 04-2003 |
A lot come from Nigeria because the U.S. has no treaties with them, therefore we can't prosecute them. Nigeria is a "no man's land" and can pretty much get away with whatever they want. Davis | ||
| Jim Reynolds (4x4xfar) Senior Member Username: 4x4xfar Post Number: 327 Registered: 05-2003 |
I work at a dealership that someone tried that exact scam but on a much grander scale. Davis, make sure you report the person the Feds will handle it BIG TIME!! Jim | ||
| Davis Reed (Davis_reed) Member Username: Davis_reed Post Number: 54 Registered: 04-2003 |
OH, don't worry I've already been in contact with the Feds, I just wanted everyone to know they they looked on this website and www.roverconnection.com, so beware! Davis | ||
| Matthew A. Barnes (Discoveryxd) Senior Member Username: Discoveryxd Post Number: 386 Registered: 08-2003 |
I had a friend who ALMOST fell victim to the same thing. He would have been out lots of money, and his $18,000 used BMW. There's lots of dirty people out there waiting to take advantage of others. | ||
| Peter Carey (Peterca) Member Username: Peterca Post Number: 45 Registered: 10-2003 |
I had nearly the same thing happen when selling a truck on LRX. When I started questioning him about a contact at the bank so I could check on things before he sent the money, he suddenlt disappeared. pwc | ||
| Bryan Crosby (Bcroz) Member Username: Bcroz Post Number: 122 Registered: 03-2002 |
A guy here at work had his 57 Chevy posted, long story short they sent him a check for $50k. Seems there is a bank in SC that changed names. The checks floating around have the old bank name on them and the accounts no longer exist. | ||
| Aaron Richardet (Draaronr) Senior Member Username: Draaronr Post Number: 423 Registered: 09-2002 |
Can people do a similiar scam with credit Cards. Had a guy contact me about a winch for sale in Indonesia. If I take his Credit Card can they stop payment and take the Credit out of my merchant account? | ||
| KJ (Karen) Senior Member Username: Karen Post Number: 227 Registered: 02-2002 |
Of course they can put a credit card charge into dispute, but the same thing could happen with someone buying from you domestically. You have to decide how to handle things and stick to it. Karen | ||
| Nathan Hindman (Nathanh) Member Username: Nathanh Post Number: 140 Registered: 07-2002 |
Aaron, As a general rule of thumb, I never accept payment for international orders through credit cards. The risk is far to high, IMHO. Usually, if an order comes from Indonesia, that's a pretty good sign that its fraudulent. I spoke with my CC processing company and they said that Indonesia far and away leads the world in credit card fraud. I don't know why, but they just do. If you send a winch off to Indonesia, the card will probably get accepted, the winch will get shipped off to the "customer" a few weeks later (when the real owner gets their bill), the charge will get disputed and it'll come out of your merchant account, and you'll be SOL. It sucks, but the burden is on you to make sure charges are legit. I usually also ask for the security code on the back of CCs. That way, they at least have to have the Credit Card in hand to have that info. Thanks, Nathan Hindman http://www.pangaea-expeditions.com | ||
| Porter Mann (Porter) Member Username: Porter Post Number: 133 Registered: 05-2003 |
Interestingly enough, I got another E-mail like that a while back. My post back to his request was that I normally wait until the check clears and then I send the item. Interestingly enough, I never got a return E-mail from the individual. I had posted some small items a long while back on roverconnection as well. | ||
| Alyssa Brown (Alyssa) Senior Member Username: Alyssa Post Number: 511 Registered: 01-2003 |
Well, I was just contacted by someone doing the same thing, and he was either looking on LRX or on DWeb, because those are the only places my truck is posted. He said he was from the UK. I'm pretty sure they have enough discos over there already! | ||
| Davis Reed (Davis_reed) Member Username: Davis_reed Post Number: 55 Registered: 04-2003 |
I know that Pirate 4x4 had similar problems with scammer trying to take their money as well. One of my friends who owns a jeep told me that some scams have been happening to them on Pirate. It seems to be a pretty common scam, both running out of Indonesia and Nigeria. Davis | ||
| Aaron Richardet (Draaronr) Senior Member Username: Draaronr Post Number: 425 Registered: 09-2002 |
Damn so your saying my gut feeling was right. Thanks for all the information. By the way Alyssa we camped right next to you at MAR, and I think your disco is sweet, unfortunately I have 3 rovers already so I can't add another to the stable yet. | ||
| Steve Cooper (Scrover) Senior Member Username: Scrover Post Number: 700 Registered: 09-2002 |
Yes, Indonesia is another hot bed. I, and other vendors, get emails from time to time. Here's one: Dear sales, Hello, I am your new potential customer for Indonesia. I own a retail store in my country. I would like to make some purchases up on your offered products on your web store. The list below is the amount and the items I would like to purchase: 5--WARN Winches HS9500i I need you to calculate me how much I have to pay for the product above, please include the shipping cost on your calculation by using the Express Mail Service/Postal Services to my address below: STREET: JL LEGUNDI 2 SUKARAME STATE: BANDAR LAMPUNG ZIP CODE :35131 PHONE:+628164229652 INDONESIA I hope you can handle the credit card for the International Transaction. If you do, as soon as you provide me the total cost I should pay, I will provide you my credit card details for the payment. I look forward to hear from you. Thanks and Regards, NANA JAYA I don't waste my time responding. SC | ||
| Ho Chung (Thediscoho) Moderator Username: Thediscoho Post Number: 630 Registered: 02-2002 |
well, what do you know, here's what someone tried on me today on the yahoo chat: enric012001: hello ho chung: hello enric012001: i am benson ho chung: hi enric012001: i just came across ur site now enric012001: hello enric012001: i will like to order for some watches enric012001: are u there ho chung: yes, i am here ho chung: talk to me enric012001: (sad face) ho chung: ? ho chung: you can order whatever you need using the on line shopping cart ho chung: do you have any questions on a particular product? enric012001: so can i give u the watches i like to buy enric012001: i will like to order enric012001: this is what i will like to order for Black Navy SEALs Dive Watch (3001) enric012001: i need 10pcs of it enric012001: so are u still there ho chung: sure ho chung: where do we ship to? enric012001: did u see the type of watch ho chung: yeah, the black lumniox enric012001: yes enric012001: please i will like u to ship it to nigeria ho chung: suire ho chung: this is what you have to do ho chung: send me an email with your address and full name ho chung: and i'll send you the total ho chung: once you receive the total ho chung: send me a cashier's check ho chung: in US funds ho chung: once the check clears, we'll ship ho chung: can you do that? enric012001: so how mush well it cost me enric012001: mush it ho chung: i won't know the total of shipping until the package is done ho chung: but i can estimate it ho chung: hang on enric012001: please i will like to pay with credit card ho chung: hehe ho chung: i dont' take credit cards from overseas ho chung: only cashier's check ho chung: you can't do cashier's check? enric012001: i live in tokyo ho chung: so? ho chung: tokyo has banks ho chung: just go to a bank, tell them you want a cashier's check in US dollars ho chung: it's very simple enric012001: i just want to shipp it to my company in nigeria ho chung: sure, we can ship to whereever you like ho chung: all i ask is a cashier's check ho chung: from a legitimate bank ho chung: no banks near you? enric012001: i can pay with check expect a card ho chung: cashier's check from a bank, not a personal check ho chung: anyhow, send me an email ho chung: [email protected] enric012001: i just to do it as a sample ho chung: send me an email with your full name and shipping address ho chung: and i'll reply with a total amount enric012001: no no no ho chung: then you send me a cashier's check in that amount, ho chung: then i ship once the check clears ho chung: yes yes yes enric012001: i am paying with card ok enric012001: and if not enric012001: please let me move ho chung: move? ho chung: (LOL) ho chung: move please, cuz i dont' take credit card from overseas enric012001: (angry face) ho chung: (grin face) ho chung: do you do wholesale of watches? enric012001: (devil face) ho chung: why the fuck do you need 10 watches for anyways? enric012001: fuck u enric012001: i sell inwholesale ho chung: have you tried contacting lumniox direct? enric012001: please fuck do that help for me ho chung: if you need 10 watches, i am sure they can sell ho chung: omega watches perhaps? ho chung: (smilie) enric012001: yes enric012001: so what is keeping u to do what u want do ho chung: nothing, i want to take your cashier's check ho chung: but since you dont' want to do cashier's check ho chung: no deal enric012001: byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ho chung: adios Ho Chung | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 772 Registered: 11-2002 |
LOL......... "Blow me" | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 773 Registered: 11-2002 |
I get the winch thing a couple times a week. Its freaking hillarious... "Blow me" | ||
| Greg P. (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1571 Registered: 11-2003 |
I've had two occassions on ebay where I got zinged by people from Romania and from Indonesia. One was a situation where the guy from Indonesia emailed and wanted to know if he bid on my item if I would accept payment from his friend that owed him money. He offered to pay me $300 more than the total cost for my service. I declined. The other situation was a guy from romania closed an auction by clicking buy it now. The auction was listed and featured and cost me $25.00 total. I listed as always, Only ship to United States. Anyway, I declined to ship the item to them, and reported it to Ebay, who basically did nothing. They didn't refund my costs, and only said I had the option not to complete the transaction since I had indicated US shipping only. Lot's of con's out there. I did get burned in one instance where some ass sold me a gps without sending all the parts. I paid, and got only part of the package. His ad indicated nothing about the item missing parts. Long story short, I complained to paypal, ebay and visa. Visa gave me a charge back for the costs necessary to complete the item per the ad. In the end, paypal reversed the charge back as they claimed I didn't return the item to them per their rules. In the end, I got burned. | ||
| Aaron Richardet (Draaronr) Senior Member Username: Draaronr Post Number: 429 Registered: 09-2002 |
Ho that is funny shit. He knew how to say fuck u interestingly enough. | ||
| KJ (Karen) Senior Member Username: Karen Post Number: 229 Registered: 02-2002 |
" enric012001: please fuck do that help for me " Well geez, this line alone is baffling. Where's the Rosetta Stone when I need it? Karen | ||
| KJ (Karen) Senior Member Username: Karen Post Number: 230 Registered: 02-2002 |
Greg, Did you ever sell your roof rack on ebay? Just curious as it seemed to sell and yet no FB was ever posted. One of my ancient bookmarks, don't comment if it's a sore subject. Karen | ||
| Greg P. (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1572 Registered: 11-2003 |
Karen, Yep, I sold it without any problems and met a guy to deliver it about 80 miles from home. I didn't have any other problems, and haven't had any other ebay problems. Only got burned the one time, and lost my listing fee the one time. Thanks for asking though. gp | ||
| KJ (Karen) Senior Member Username: Karen Post Number: 232 Registered: 02-2002 |
Well, daggone Greg, leave that poor low-feedbacker some words!  Glad to hear it worked out. So far nearly all of my ebay deals have been positive transactions. I've only left one neg and that was because I won an auction and the seller had seller's remourse and refused to sell. I hear so many odd stories though, I always wonder when my time will come. Karen | ||
| Peter Carey (Peterca) Member Username: Peterca Post Number: 59 Registered: 10-2003 |
"please fuck do that help for me " that's my new favorite line pwc | ||
| Axel Haakonsen (Axel) Moderator Username: Axel Post Number: 986 Registered: 02-2003 |
I got a new variant of the Nigeria emails yesterday, but deleted it before I thought of posting it here. I'm sure I'll get it again, though. The gist of this one, was that the sender claimed to be a wealthy woman dying of cancer with six months to live, her husband was killed during the recent war in Afghanistan, she has no heirs, and want to leave her 14.5 million dollars to the church, i.e. whichever greedy moron dumb enough to buy the sob story. - Axel | ||
| Erik Olson (Jon) Senior Member Username: Jon Post Number: 573 Registered: 02-2002 |
I get those emails from some guy in Africa with some $31.5 million U.S. that belongs to a deposed person of royalty who needs to park the money in an offshore account. If I contact them, they'll just dump the money in several $100k accounts in my name - what a deal! I guess they don't know the FDIC raised the maximum some months back... LOL | ||
| Davis Reed (Davis_reed) Member Username: Davis_reed Post Number: 57 Registered: 04-2003 |
I got a new offer today for my wheels that just doesn't seem to valid. For one this guys is from Alaska but he can't speak English very well. And his friend owes him so he wanted him to pay me, huh, just a little suspicious. Here it is. Hello, i saw your advert on net and i am interested in buying your product .how much do you want to offer me last My name is Keneth Butler I based in Usa ,24 desmond avenue ,Neasden, Gustavus ,Aaska ,but presently i am in Singapore Where i have a number of bussiness investment . once we have agreed on the price of your produc i will like to inform my associate who is in state to forward the payment to you .the man own me and i will tell him to send the payment down to you Once the payment has being sent to you .you will deduct the price of your product and the rest will have to be sent to my shipper to facilitate the pick up of it from your end to the final destination in please mail me back immidiately with the instructon and the quality of the product as well as sending its pic to my mail box so that will have the idea of what i wanted to pay for.i love it and i will like to pick it up. Regard My favorite line is "i love it and i will like to pick it up." | ||
| Davis Reed (Davis_reed) Member Username: Davis_reed Post Number: 58 Registered: 04-2003 |
Oh by the way, this guy must have seen my advertisement on roverconnection.com because his subject line was how I posted them for sale. So I'd be watching for any of these scams if you posted an ad on roverconnection. | ||
| Peter Carey (Peterca) Member Username: Peterca Post Number: 61 Registered: 10-2003 |
I like how he gives two city names, one of which is in the UK. | ||
| Matthew A. Barnes (Discoveryxd) Senior Member Username: Discoveryxd Post Number: 431 Registered: 08-2003 |
"mush it"... WTF?  | ||
| Axel Haakonsen (Axel) Moderator Username: Axel Post Number: 989 Registered: 02-2003 |
Damn, I thought slavery was outlawed long ago.... - Axel | ||
| Kevin C. Burnett (94rover) Member Username: 94rover Post Number: 44 Registered: 02-2003 |
There is an article in Forbes (must current issue) and this is a scheme thats happening throughout the "net". Here is a link regarding the issue- www.quatloos.com | ||
| Kevin C. Burnett (94rover) Member Username: 94rover Post Number: 45 Registered: 02-2003 |
Oops, "must" should be "most current issue". | ||
| Davis Reed (Davis_reed) Member Username: Davis_reed Post Number: 61 Registered: 04-2003 |
Another example of a scam in progress... My name is bashlon ,I am located in scotland,i buy goods and services for my customers who come from different part of the world especially Uk and Scotland,well i have a client right now that is willing to buy you' ( 5-18" Prolines )because he wants to travel along with it to US,I will like you to tell me your last offering price and its present condition immediately. My client will be willing to pay check.so tell me the cost and present condition of the ( 5-18" Prolines )and any recent pictures,and i will also like to know if you will accept a check for the payment of the consignment.Get back to me as soon as possible so that we can getthis transaction started.i look forward to hearing from you. Best regards, Yep, another email I received today thats more than likely a scam. | ||
| Mike M (Rangeroverhp) Member Username: Rangeroverhp Post Number: 232 Registered: 09-2003 |
Davis- I got the same email from him about a DII Brush Bar I'm trying to sell on this board. I also recieved an email from the same dude about an '04 DII that I know nothing about. I don't own, nor am I selling an '04 DII. I didn't respond to either. | ||
| Davis Reed (Davis_reed) Member Username: Davis_reed Post Number: 62 Registered: 04-2003 |
Alot of these guys are trying to nail people on roverconnection.com. | ||
| Mike M (Rangeroverhp) Member Username: Rangeroverhp Post Number: 233 Registered: 09-2003 |
They're stalking this site too. | ||
| Dick Walker (Wyo183121) New Member Username: Wyo183121 Post Number: 12 Registered: 12-2003 |
I was just bidding on a Generator on EBAY and got EMAIL from a guy who offered me a new 10KW generator for $400 shipping included. I told him to send it and then I would forward the check. He responded that if I sent him half and if I did'd like the Laptop I could send it back. I told him I thought we were talking about a generator. He advised me it was made in Italy. I advised him I was born at night but not last night | ||
| Ryan Roundy (Rrefxut) Member Username: Rrefxut Post Number: 55 Registered: 12-2003 |
I sold my laptop on e bay a few months back. I had payed 1700 for it new, it was 6 months old, and i had the buy it now option at $1000. I had a guy contact me from indonesia offering to pay me $2500 hundred for it, by check, plus shipping, as soon as I got the price estimate. Said his reason for wanting to pay so much was Dell wouldn't ship outside of the US. He wanted me to close the bid, and just take care of it outside of E-bay. I didnt at all like the sound of it, and reported him, never heard anything back on that, and he never e mailed me after that. After reading these posts, I'm sure glad I didn't get gready. Ryan | ||
| Blue (Blue) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue Post Number: 1319 Registered: 04-2003 |
why the fuck would any of you even consider doing business with anyone speaking broken english and asking if they can overpay with some dubious form of money if you'll just be kind enough to send your stuff off to Indonesia or Nigeria or where-the-fuck-ever? it's not rocket science... | ||
| Davis Reed (Davis_reed) Member Username: Davis_reed Post Number: 63 Registered: 04-2003 |
The Nigerian who wanted to "buy" my wheels sent the cashier's check before I had confirmed the sale and told him how to send the cash. |
