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     Brian (Bthaxton) Member Username: Bthaxton Post Number: 78 Registered: 02-2003 |
What kind of Rover is that in the DisoWeb Store banner ad at the top of all the threads (white with ladders on the back, the one on the left)? Is that what everyone calls a "Series" Rover? I like the way it looks. I might like to find one someday. | ||
| Peter Carey (Peterca) Member Username: Peterca Post Number: 75 Registered: 10-2003 |
JAD Just Another Discovery | ||
| Pugsly (Pugsly) Senior Member Username: Pugsly Post Number: 313 Registered: 11-2002 |
It's actually not a Disco, but a NAS Defender 110. It looks pretty similar on the outside to a Series III, but is coil sprung not leaf (and a bunch of other stuff, but that is the biggie). http://www.defender110.net/ | ||
| Brian (Bthaxton) Member Username: Bthaxton Post Number: 79 Registered: 02-2003 |
I just learned that there were only 500 or so shipped to the U.S. Of course I like it. Champagne tastes, as it were  Is there another Rover similar and more easily attainable? | ||
| Justin Kurosaki (Kurosaki) New Member Username: Kurosaki Post Number: 26 Registered: 02-2004 |
Brian, You could modify a Series III Rover and make it look pretty close to a D110. Easy to do, but series rovers vary in their condition. Like Puglsy mentioned, their are quite a few internal differences. A few people have been successful in importing 1993 D110's for less than the what the current NAS Defenders are going for. I'm currently researching if this still possible. -justin | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 3083 Registered: 02-2002 |
Wha...? Justin, The fees for a Registered Importer to federalize a '93 D110 is about $8k alone, plus parts and labor, all on top of the cost of the vehicle, plus shipping. I've not heard of anyone saving anything by bringing in one that way over what a US one would cost (building your own, that's a different story). -L | ||
| Justin Kurosaki (Kurosaki) New Member Username: Kurosaki Post Number: 27 Registered: 02-2004 |
Paul Soomsawasdi imported his D110 for roughly the $8000 you mentioned. It is a little unclear as to whether or not that figure included shipping. Shipping alone will run about $1500-$2000 depending on where in the US you wish to have it delivered... A D110 200TDi in England can cost less than $10000 USD (usually much less). The key of course is finding a '93. Even at the high end, $20,000 is considerably less than what the NAS 110's are selling for stateside. Granted they may not be in the same condition, but that is the price to pay for a cheaper vehicle. I know it isn't as easy as that and there are some considerations to think about. The main being the bonding required to import such a vehicle. Currenlty NHTSA requires a bond of 150% of the vehicle's value. The problem is determining how NHTSA values such vehicle. -justin http://www.spanishtrailrovers.com/Tech/Info/Importing_a_Land_Rover/importing_a_l and_rover.html | ||
| Matthew A. Barnes (Discoveryxd) Senior Member Username: Discoveryxd Post Number: 472 Registered: 08-2003 |
It's doug walkers D110 I believe? http://www.discoweb.org/cgi-bin/discus/board-profile.cgi?action=view_profile&pro file=dougw-users http://www.kangol.net/lwb/ Matt | ||
| Sandy Deke (Disco_deke) New Member Username: Disco_deke Post Number: 5 Registered: 02-2004 |
Looking on the Land Rover Exchange, they have some new "grey market" Tdi 110s and low mileage '93 NAS 110s on the block for between $50,000 - $65,000. I guess you really have to love 110s to pay that kind of money -- or be certifiably insane. Makes a brand new legal Mercedes G-Wagen look like a steal at $75,000. | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 3085 Registered: 02-2002 |
Exchange rate is bad right now, but, let's say that you can get a '93 D110 for $20k. $8k, + $2k shipping, you're at $30k, and haven't done the conversion yet. Tdi isn't allowed, so you'll need an engine; the x-case isn't the same for the diesel and V8 versions so that's got to swap too, parts and labor. Change all the glass out, change out the lights, get a Safety Devices roll cage and install it. You might get that all done for $10k, maybe..... So, $40k for the vehicle, but I know that I can find a NAS 110 for about the same money.... it's just not worth the hassle, IMHO..... -L | ||
| Craig Kobayashi (Koby) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Koby Post Number: 1105 Registered: 02-2002 |
Matt, it is Sean Wolf's D110 http://www.discoweb.org/seanwolf/DSC00027.jpg | ||
| Justin Kurosaki (Kurosaki) New Member Username: Kurosaki Post Number: 28 Registered: 02-2004 |
You are right about the hassle, but haven't heard anything regarding the TDI not being allowed in the US for importation. I know that TDI's have been imported. Did the EPA change the rule? You are also right about the SD roll cage... VERY PRICY! But again I haven't been told it is required for importation (I do know it was required when LR imported the D110 orginally). I know there are 1993's in the US without the cage. I have found plenty of 90-94 D110's in the UK that were considerably cheaper than 20k USD. Closer to 10k than 20k. And if one is willing to go for a 3-door the price drops even further @ $8k (although I couldn't honestly tell you if a 3-door would qualify as a legal 1993 import). Honestly though, I think we are just splitting hairs, you are correct, a nice D110 like pictured will most likely not be worth the hassle. With the V8 and a NAS cage, it would probably be just as much cost-wise as well. But if one is willing to do the research and put up with the hassles and time it takes to import a vehicle, it could be expected that one could be driving a D110 for much less than a limited production NAS truck and for less than $30k. -justin | ||
| Matthew A. Barnes (Discoveryxd) Senior Member Username: Discoveryxd Post Number: 475 Registered: 08-2003 |
OK, I thought it was possibly a newer photo of Doug's. Regardless, that's one really nice truck. maybe someday... Thanks Craig | ||
| Brian (Bthaxton) Member Username: Bthaxton Post Number: 82 Registered: 02-2003 |
Thanks for all of the posts, but I realized it was pretty much out of the question when I read that only 500 were imported to the States. However, BUILDING one, now that's a different story | ||
| Michael L. Palmieri (Great_pumpkin) Member Username: Great_pumpkin Post Number: 57 Registered: 01-2004 |
Just curious -- what were dealers getting for the NAS 110s in 1993? | ||
| Paul Grant (Paul_in_ct) New Member Username: Paul_in_ct Post Number: 14 Registered: 12-2003 |
I remember sitting in one on the showroom floor at Zumbach (NYC LR dealer) right around this time of year back in '93. The saleswoman was selling the truck at list price which was $39,900. She mentioned that in 1994 they were going to be offering a convertible but she had no details. After calling just about every dealer in the US (back in those days LRNA had fewer than fifty) I got the lowdown on the D-90 and placed an order in April of '93 for one of the first alpine white D-90's to arrive in the US. The original base price for that truck was $27,900 When my truck arrived in October of "93 it came with every option known to man and LRNA! At list price with taxes and licensing it tipped the scales at just under $37K. I was annoyed with the dealer because I had been very specific about not wanting air conditioning ($2k) and alloys ($1.4K) let alone the other frills that I felt weren't appropriate for a modern Series. So, I let the D-90 go and bought a '94 RRC LWB BSE (Beluga Sable Edition) for a mere $15K more! I know, I know, believe me, I know what you're thinking!!! | ||
| Chuck Stroud (Str0ud) New Member Username: Str0ud Post Number: 13 Registered: 02-2004 |
Search the web for Land Rover Defender CKD, That's what I would like to get! | ||
| Alyssa Brown (Alyssa) Senior Member Username: Alyssa Post Number: 586 Registered: 01-2003 |
Paul, weren't alloys standard on 94's? I can't imagine you would have been able to get one without them... | ||
| Paul Grant (Paul_in_ct) New Member Username: Paul_in_ct Post Number: 15 Registered: 12-2003 |
Standard or optional? If memory serves me correctly, everything was "optional" in the beginning including the glass door tops. Air ($2000) was installed in the UK on the majority of the first batch while the US techs were brought up to speed on installation. So, if you wanted a non-A/C truck you'd have to get to the end of the line. At least that was what I was told by the folks at Land Rover World in Glen Cove, NY. Now, whether you could actually get the vehicle without certain factory "options", that's another story. I seem remember Bryan Davies at The Classic Rover here in CT saying that he had seen steelies on a couple of NAS D-90's at POE. It's been almost eleven years but I still remember the feeling of being nickled and dimed on the D-90 where the 110 price of just under $40K pretty much included all you'd need shy of a winch, auxilliary lighting and lockers. The funny thing was that after the initial delivery to the hardcore enthusiasts, I remember seeing more than a few D-90's languishing on dealer lots. I vividly remember seeing a Portofino Red D-90 without A/C ($32K) sit for months on the showroom floor at Pepe Motors in White Plains, NY. Darien Land Rover in CT always had several available for immediate delivery that first year, It took awhile for the D-90 to catch on. | ||
| Peter Carey (Peterca) Member Username: Peterca Post Number: 80 Registered: 10-2003 |
DOH!! I just realized my mistake, I was looking at the banner at the very top, not the one for the store. I certainly don't want to look like I don't know what I'm talking about. | ||
| kevin mokracek (Kellymoe) New Member Username: Kellymoe Post Number: 1 Registered: 03-2004 |
Check out LRX. There is a 1988 110 for $16900. Registerd as a 1974 while it was still in England. Located in the Virginia area now I think. Since it is a registered 1974 there is no problem, even in california. |
