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Jamie (Rover_puppy)
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Username: Rover_puppy

Post Number: 1033
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Is it ok to leave the Jack Mate stored directly on the high lift jack when driving on the road? (jack is mounted to front bumper).

Thanks in advance, Jamie
 

eric w siepmann (Cdn001)
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Username: Cdn001

Post Number: 82
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Jaime,

Mine is in the mail, hopefully making its appearance soon. I plan on storing the Jack Mate in my pelican. No way I even want to risk hurting anyone or damaging somebody's ride because of my carelessness. Better safe than sorry IMHO. Less than, what, 5 minutes to install in the field? Why risk it. You'll know where it is in case you need it, as opposed to having it on your jack when you don't

my worthless .02.

EwS
 

Jamil Abbasy (Jamooche)
Senior Member
Username: Jamooche

Post Number: 405
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

My friend stores his on the jack on the roof rack of his D90. When we were using the jack the last time, we wanted to reverse the orientation of the jackmate, but couldn't get it off. We had to use my hi-lift instead. I store mine in my drawer with the other hardware.
 

Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
Dweb Lounge Member
Username: Nosivad_bor

Post Number: 1696
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 07:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Jamie, why is it that you are incapable of making this decision on your own?

I've never cared for anything you've ever posted on Discoweb. I've always found it very annoying. Some time not so long ago I mentioned this to you in a post. You might remember this as your rebuttal was telling all of us your life story. After that I tried to be as helpful as I could but damn, you post so much worthless shit I have to believe that it's on purpose.

It's such a shame too, because so few women actually contribute to this site. Frankly if it was up to me I would rather not see your posts or input at all but it's not my website so I can't make that happen.

So I’ll ask, for me, could you please try and keep the useless posting to an absolute minimum?

Pretty please with sugar on top?

Thanks,
Rob
 

Adam Ross (Discodriveradam)
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Username: Discodriveradam

Post Number: 219
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The jack shouldn't be on the bumper while on the highway in the first place. The only thing it increases is the posing factor. I don't even see why you would mount it there for off-road only situations either. I mean, it doesn't really provide easy access or anything, and it just makes it that much easier for shit to get in the mechanisms of the jack itself. So the question of storing it on the jack while the jack is on the bumper should be irrelevant. But I'm sure you could leave it on the jack while it is stored in the vehicle, if you want to try that.
 

Andy Maier (Newman)
Senior Member
Username: Newman

Post Number: 616
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Didn't Jamie explain long ago that she's not experienced in the ways of off-roading, and that rather than screw (sometimes expensive) things up she's asking here?

Have you never asked a stupid question? Were you born with innate offroading knowledge? What is the point of this website if it's only "smart" people telling each other what they already know?

Christ, man, she's trying to learn from people who know. Would you rather have her try driving down the road with Hi-Lift and Jack Mate on the front bumper and have something horrible happen than to ask here?

Finally, I refer you to what I call Koby's Rule: If you don't think a thread will be interesting, don't read it. As I posted not so long ago, just because we have a "marketplace of ideas" here on D-Web doesn't mean we have to shop in every store!


Andy
 

Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
Dweb Lounge Member
Username: Nosivad_bor

Post Number: 1697
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Andy, what you mention above would be fine if she was a 6 year old girl, but she is not. Jamie is a grown woman who should figure these things out for herself. If she is not capable of this then I have pity for her.

That said I don’t think the jack should be even on the front of her bumper. I mentioned this the last time she created a thread asking where she should mount it. I said back seat or on the roof rack. She then mentioned it will only be mounted while off road which was the best of a bad thing.

Now she is asking if she can mount the Jackmate on it. What grown person can not figure this out? Jamie that's who. I am starting to believe that she is not this naive. I personally feel it's a bullshit act. She is aware that mounting it wrong could lead to problems or she would not even know to post such a question.

Even if it's not bullshit, even if Jamie is clueless of the potential consequences. Maybe it's time she grew up and tried to figure it out on her own, which is the same beef I had a year ago.

So the answer to your question.


quote:

Would you rather have her try driving down the road with Hi-Lift and Jack Mate on the front bumper and have something horrible happen than to ask here?







Yes, I would rather her drive down to road and have the thing fall off than for her to ask here.

That's my point. Ask it somewhere else.

Rob
 

David Seger (Croakus)
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Username: Croakus

Post Number: 95
Registered: 06-2003
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 09:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

It was nice of you to pull your head out long enough to give us your opinion. Would you like some help shoving it back up your ass or can you handle that on your own?

If you don't like her posts, don't read them. What grown man can't behave in a civilized manor to someone with less experiance than him?

I think it's very obvious to everyone who's being a child here.
 

Ray Wallace (Rayd2)
Member
Username: Rayd2

Post Number: 49
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Amen, David, and well said.
 

Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
Moderator
Username: Axel

Post Number: 1039
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

No, actually Rob has a point. There are limits to people's patience, including mine. And I do have the power to make her go away, should I choose to do so.

- Axel


 

Chris von C. (Chrisvonc)
Dweb Lounge Member
Username: Chrisvonc

Post Number: 458
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"Didn't Jamie explain long ago that she's not experienced in the ways of off-roading, and that rather than screw (sometimes expensive) things up she's asking here?"

Well Andy, the operative words there were "long ago". Considering how much she has participated on this board since then, 1000+ posts in under a year, she should have more than enough confendance to figure out how to mount the damn Jackmate or at least look through the gallerys to figure out where anyone else mounts it let alone some of the other doozies she whips out.

I too am starting to think Jamie is either bullshitting at times or shes is simply focusing on the wrong part of the forum.
 

Andy Maier (Newman)
Senior Member
Username: Newman

Post Number: 617
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

There must've been rumblings in the smoke-filled rooms then, because I'm on quite often (too often, if you ask my boss :-)) and haven't seen this much hostility toward Jamie. Koby did criticize her but he criticizes everyone...maybe there should be a thread in the "Notices from the DWeb Team" or whatever to no longer ask stupid questions, or that we should only post what we have personally experienced?

She does ask a lot of questions, but many are "un-searchable" and appear to be from a genuine interest in finding out the right way to do things. I've never read one of Jamie's posts and thought she was bullshitting us regarding knowledge of technique or use of tools, etc. The only time I think she was pushing buttons was with the hibiscus sticker, and maybe the stick thread that gained such notoriety. If starting two threads for entertainment, or to share a humorous anecdote, is grounds for banning, well, then you should be banning a lot of people. Don't stop with Jamie, who's contributed many stories helpful to new wheelers...better make it slash-and-burn.


Andy
 

max garcia (Max_n_erica)
Member
Username: Max_n_erica

Post Number: 56
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Jamie posted more on her first day then I have in the years i've been here. A lot of what she has to say I find annoying and it mostly will start with "my tech's", However, I seem to read most of her post. I have seen her go from all "my tech said" to "I have found...". I don't see any problems with Jamie posting this thread especially since its in the general section.
My .02 Max

 

Jamie (Rover_puppy)
Senior Member
Username: Rover_puppy

Post Number: 1034
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 01:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I don't know a blasted thing about using or storing the Jack Mate. I called John Lee at Expedition Exchange last week to place an order. During our conversation, we discussed hi-lift jacks, and he recommended the Jack Mate and gave me a summary of what it can be used for. Every single product that John Lee has recommended to me has made my life much easier after I learned to use them properly. Because I respect and trust his recommendations, I ordered the Jack Mate. I opened the box last night.

After seeing pics last night of the jack mate stowed on the hi-lift, I wanted to find out if it was ok to do this because I have to drive both of them somewhere tomorrow. IF it could have been safely stored on the jack, I would have prefered to keep it simple and keep them together.

I am sorry that my questions and posts have been annoying you so greatly. I've done the best I could to learn as much as I could on my own. This has been challenging because there are very few sources in my area to learn from. It must be great to have buddies around who are somewhat familiar with what you are doing and are willing to roll up their shirtsleeves and lend you a hand.

Due to the lack of assistance in my area, I have been extremely grateful for the help that you have given me. I hope that I always expressed my thankfulness for your input and for your patience as I have continued to learn. For the record, I never asked questions that I already knew the answer to.

Before you start blasting me again with your posts, I'm not coming back in here to read them. I'm deleting emails without reading them unless I recognize the sender as non-hostile. Between the posts here and the emails that I have received, I've gotten the message loud and clear that my presence is not wanted on DiscoWeb.

Still, I remain grateful that you helped me to get as far as I have.

Thanks again, Jamie
 

BW (Bwallace35)
Member
Username: Bwallace35

Post Number: 91
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 04:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Jamie,

In case you revisit - When I first got my JackMate I fitted it on my HiLift, which was mounted to my roof rack, but the constant rattling was too annoying for me.

Brian
 

Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
Moderator
Username: Axel

Post Number: 1042
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 06:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


quote:

If starting two threads for entertainment, or to share a humorous anecdote, is grounds for banning, well, then you should be banning a lot of people.



It's not, and she hasn't been banned, and she won't be.

That being said, she must reap what she sows. As I said earlier, there is a limit to people's patience, and she must expect that eventually, somebody will express that. She then have a choice of how to deal with that critisism. She can post a reply to it, or not. The choice is hers.

- Axel


 

Aaron Richardet (Draaronr)
Senior Member
Username: Draaronr

Post Number: 491
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 09:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I give the girl props for using a hi-lift, that damn thing is heavy.
 

michael burt (Mikeyb)
Senior Member
Username: Mikeyb

Post Number: 686
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

nice...really nice...

i have to agree with david...if you cannot take control of your own destiny and not read/do/watch/listen to things that annoy you, then that is more your problem than those who annoy.

i don't read 70% of the posts on here, not because they annoy me, but because they are not related to my disco or my concerns at the time. i also get tired of a lot of the rightwing crap i read here, but i am grownup enough to let you post whatever you want or i just don't read the posts that i know will have that in it.

aside from the moderators, who own this site, i think a few folks should get out a little more and and not have their life so wrapped up in a damn website that one person's posts gets on thier nerves so badly that they can't be a little more understanding.

for craps sake i am more tired of seeing threads started asking about shit that has already been answered a 1000 times and could have been answered with a simple search. why don't you go nuts on those threads? hell, i never see those of you so annoyed by jamie post on those, info or flames, so my guess is that you don't read them...if you can do that there, you could have done it with hers.

mike
 

Craig Kobayashi (Koby)
Dweb Lounge Member
Username: Koby

Post Number: 1139
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Mikey, the difference is that after one dumb question the people who ask "about shit that has already been answered a 1000 times" usually figure it out.
 

michael burt (Mikeyb)
Senior Member
Username: Mikeyb

Post Number: 687
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

perhaps...but i just think that if half the disco owners put one third the effort into modding and wheeling as she has, maybe land rover would still see an off-road market instead of a mall crawler market and we would not have a need for 2005 spy photo threads, ifs/irs threads, and debates regarding range rovers abilities to close the filter box and drive underwater for 20 seconds...

i realize some of her questions may seem a little basic to some folks here, but at least she is trying to walk the walk. i remember seeing a post from a guy wanting roofrack info not because he was going to carry anything, but because he liked the look. that guy got all the hazing he deserved, in my opinion.

it just seems to me that jamie has become the new carter simcoe, but unlike carter, she is not an ass. i know that not being a moderator or a lounge member, it is not my place to regulate what goes on here, but i think the first step to not being annoyed starts from inside and that is the choice to read/follow a post or not.

my two cents. i just think that on the internet, too many people find it easier to flame than turn the other cheek. and that is what i will now do. i am off to the garage to build on my roof rack...

have a good day

mike
 

Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
Moderator
Username: Axel

Post Number: 1044
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

No, she isn't an ass. If she is guilty of anything, it's of being ignorant, and perhaps of poor judgement, not realizing that if she keeps getting on people's nerves, eventually she will be slammed.

Ignorance and poor judgement isn't a crime, though. Nor is it reason enough to be banned from this site, which she hasn't been.

On the other hand, if she chooses to depart on her own because she can't deal with a few flame posts being directed at her, that is her decision to make, too. As the old saying goes; "If you can't take the heat....."

If past history is any indication though, she'll be back.

- Axel


 

Jaime (Blueboy)
Senior Member
Username: Blueboy

Post Number: 926
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"The jack shouldn't be on the bumper while on the highway in the first place."

the ARB bumper makes it very easy to store a jack on it. quite a few folks I know use it for that purpose.

q

Rover-puppy, how often are you going to use the jackmate? I don't use my jack that much anyhow to begin with, so I keep the jackmate along with all my other stuff in one of the birds.

Jaime a

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