| Author | Message | ||
     Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp) Member Username: Steve_rupp Post Number: 156 Registered: 03-2003 |
My brother and I ran Seafoam through our trucks yesterday and the shit works. It's the cheapest tune-up you can do. I would recommend that everybody does it. | ||
| Melissa (Roverchic) Member Username: Roverchic Post Number: 195 Registered: 02-2004 |
SEA FOAM IS THE bomb.com!!! I used it in the gas tank..Did not want to make neighbors mad with the smoke. They already b**** that my rover is too long with the bike rack and takes up "half" the side walk .. Rrrroverchic | ||
| Martin Tuip (Ajax) Member Username: Ajax Post Number: 109 Registered: 06-2003 |
I'm totally new to all those additive stuff. What stuff is safe to use or can be recommended besides this then? BTW .. how long does the thing smoke after you use it for the first time ? :P | ||
| Perry Ray Miller (Discojunky) Member Username: Discojunky Post Number: 138 Registered: 03-2003 |
Didn't screw with your plugs then? | ||
| Wicks (Wicks) Member Username: Wicks Post Number: 157 Registered: 03-2003 |
Did you actually pour it directly into the throttle body, vacuum tubes, and into the oil, and the gas tank, or did you just dump it in the gas tank? | ||
| Melissa (Roverchic) Member Username: Roverchic Post Number: 196 Registered: 02-2004 |
Wicks .. Are you asking me?? | ||
| Felix Gumbiner (Felixthecat) New Member Username: Felixthecat Post Number: 39 Registered: 02-2004 |
What the heck is Seafoam and what does it to? | ||
| Melissa (Roverchic) Member Username: Roverchic Post Number: 197 Registered: 02-2004 |
I have yet to try it in the oil. I am going to wait till I need another oil change..then add the goods. Good Bye Gunk !! Hey Felix you can get it @ Autozone(5.99).. or they have a website you can visit. Melissa | ||
| Felix Gumbiner (Felixthecat) Member Username: Felixthecat Post Number: 41 Registered: 02-2004 |
Cool, but what does it claim to do? | ||
| R. B. Bailey (Rover50987) Senior Member Username: Rover50987 Post Number: 784 Registered: 07-2002 |
Ever put diesel in your tank? It does the same thing - lots of smoke and coughing, then it runs better once the smoke has gone away, and the coughing has stopped.  | ||
| Jack Leitch (Liveattheedge) Senior Member Username: Liveattheedge Post Number: 262 Registered: 12-2003 |
how does making your engine cough and splutter for life make it better? | ||
| R. B. Bailey (Rover50987) Senior Member Username: Rover50987 Post Number: 786 Registered: 07-2002 |
It doesn't. It's after the coughing and sputtering when you will notice that when it doesn't cough and sputter that it is running better. | ||
| Jack Leitch (Liveattheedge) Senior Member Username: Liveattheedge Post Number: 263 Registered: 12-2003 |
haha, now thats intelegent marketing. lol cheers jack | ||
| Felix Gumbiner (Felixthecat) Member Username: Felixthecat Post Number: 44 Registered: 02-2004 |
Yes.. very ...intelegent ....marketing. | ||
| Greg French (Gregfrench) Senior Member Username: Gregfrench Post Number: 736 Registered: 11-2002 |
I use it all the time, but don't know if it really works. I us eit mainly because I have no idea what is wrong with my truck, and am willing to try anything. People on here keep saying how great it is so I figure, "If it works for them it must be working for me, too." | ||
| Mike Rupp (Mike_rupp) Senior Member Username: Mike_rupp Post Number: 338 Registered: 02-2002 |
Wicks, so far, we only put it into the throttle body through the small vacuum hose right by the throttle position sensor. It's pretty simple: add 1/3 can into the hose while the engine is running, shut engine off & wait 10 minutes, start engine back up and run it until the smoke clears. We would rev the engine occasionally. The engine is definitely smoother. At idle I used to have small bounces in rpm; now it's completely smooth. I also used to have some small hesitations while accelerating; that's gone also. I was skeptical, but it seems to work. Next, I'll try it in the oil. It is supposed to help clear out sludge. | ||
| R. B. Bailey (Rover50987) Senior Member Username: Rover50987 Post Number: 787 Registered: 07-2002 |
OK, so I've been to three different places in Portland and cannot find the stuff... | ||
| Greg French (Gregfrench) Senior Member Username: Gregfrench Post Number: 741 Registered: 11-2002 |
Napa. | ||
| Robert Sublett (Rubisco98) Senior Member Username: Rubisco98 Post Number: 1181 Registered: 04-2002 |
O'Reilly Auto Parts usually has it too. | ||
| Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp) Member Username: Steve_rupp Post Number: 163 Registered: 03-2003 |
I was talking to a mechanic the other day and said that their shop used it all the time when doing tuneups. He told me that they followed the same procedure I did but at the end killed the engine with it. You will find out when you do it that if you pour too much down the intake that it will kill. The best thing to do is pour little amounts in so the truck stays running. When you get to a 1/3 of a bottle, pour in just enough to make it kill. This way it will actually steam clean the cylinders, heads, and valves. Leave it off for about 10 minutes. Then start it. It will smoke for about 10 minutes this is the carbon comming out of the heads and exhaust. | ||
| Davis Reed (Davis_reed) Member Username: Davis_reed Post Number: 66 Registered: 04-2003 |
Is putting it in the gas any more/less efficient than in the throttle body? How much should be added per tank of gas? | ||
| Chuck Stroud (Str0ud) Member Username: Str0ud Post Number: 41 Registered: 02-2004 |
Something tells me this would be a great way to ruin O2 sensors. -Str0ud | ||
| Melissa (Roverchic) Member Username: Roverchic Post Number: 208 Registered: 02-2004 |
Str0ud good point the bottle says 02 sensor safe but there could be a direct correlation between the two. I have had mega 02 sensor problems ... and I have been using a fuel cleaner(sea foam and lucas).. However it did improve my mpg. I might lay off the fuel cleaner for awhile. 02 sensors are TOO expensive to be changing them every other month. Melissa | ||
| Chuck Stroud (Str0ud) Member Username: Str0ud Post Number: 42 Registered: 02-2004 |
Yeah, I'm thinking buy a sensor socket, and back the sensors out before firing up the foam. -Str0ud | ||
| R. B. Bailey (Rover50987) Senior Member Username: Rover50987 Post Number: 794 Registered: 07-2002 |
Tried the SeaFoam - absolutely nothing happened, no smoke, no rough idle that soon cleared, no pickup, no nothing... I put it into the crank case breather and the oil filler opening. I also put it into the fuel. Where else should I try it to get the smoke effects, I know they're out there somewhere, but the are being illusive for me. | ||
| S.C.Young (Youngsc) New Member Username: Youngsc Post Number: 40 Registered: 10-2003 |
If you put it in the oil, you don't get smoke. Unplug a vac line and let the engine vac suck the stuff into the intake plenum. Don't run it through the MAF though- I unplugged the plastic T on my 3.9 that is on the driver side front (PCV I believe) and let it suck it in through there. That stuff (and some Techron treatments in the gas) have transformed my ratty running 95 into a smooth runner. | ||
| Melissa (Roverchic) Member Username: Roverchic Post Number: 209 Registered: 02-2004 |
RB: I ran mine thru the gas tank..This of course will not cause smoke(unless ..nevermind you get the idea) however as notated above it could cause damage to the 02 sensors (irregardless of the fact that it says "02 sensor" safe). Melissa | ||
| kevin mokracek (Kellymoe) New Member Username: Kellymoe Post Number: 12 Registered: 03-2004 |
Used it tonight on both my trucks. Seems to work. Lottsa smoke. Smooth running, better acceleration, dead steady idle. I am taking the 130 out for a long drive in the morning, I will report back if there are any problems. | ||
| Mike Rupp (Mike_rupp) Senior Member Username: Mike_rupp Post Number: 342 Registered: 02-2002 |
R.B. Bailey, From your post its not clear exactly what you did. On the 4.0 there is a hose that goes from the driver's side valve cover to the intake plenum. Remove the hose from the valve cover and rotate it 180 degrees upward so that you can pour the seafoam into it. I used a small funnel to make it easier. Then like mentioned above, slowly pour in 1/3 of a pint trying not to kill the engine. Turn off engine and wait 10 minutes or so & restart engine. If you have 50K+ miles, and didn't get any smoke, there's a good chance you did something wrong. Putting it in the engine oil or into the gas will have different effects. | ||
| SSV (Susannah) Senior Member Username: Susannah Post Number: 863 Registered: 06-2002 |
If my engine runs fine..should I use it?! Or is it just a cheap fix for problems already apparent? | ||
| Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp) Member Username: Steve_rupp Post Number: 171 Registered: 03-2003 |
Susannah, use it at your own risk. I have a theory: If it's not broken, don't fix it. However my truck ran fine and now it runs better. R.B. Bailey, basically the seafoam is steam cleaning the inside of your cylinders. In my post, I recommended that the last time you pour it into the intake, you should pour in just enought to kill it. This will allow it to seal in your cylinders and "steam clean" the tops of the heads and your valves. The smoke that is emitted is the carbon burning off the heads and valves. Pouring it into the oil is also suggested. Although I would do an oil change real soon as the seafoam may lower the viscosity of the oil. | ||
| Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp) Member Username: Steve_rupp Post Number: 172 Registered: 03-2003 |
Susannah, use it at your own risk. I have a theory: If it's not broken, don't fix it. However my truck ran fine and now it runs better. R.B. Bailey, basically the seafoam is steam cleaning the inside of your cylinders. In my post, I recommended that the last time you pour it into the intake, you should pour in just enought to kill it. This will allow it to seal in your cylinders and "steam clean" the tops of the heads and your valves. The smoke that is emitted is the carbon burning off the heads and valves. Pouring it into the oil is also suggested. Although I would do an oil change real soon as the seafoam may lower the viscosity of the oil. | ||
| Paul Grant (Paul_in_ct) New Member Username: Paul_in_ct Post Number: 18 Registered: 12-2003 |
Steve, thanks for turning me on to this stuff. I just added a can to my '89 RRC through a vacuum hose and am amazed at how much better the truck runs. After a scary amount of smoke the engine idles perfectly and there is no hesitation under acceleration. Seafoam rivals and may even beat Red Line's Injection Cleaner for the best bang for the buck! I can't wait to try it on my carburetted Rangie. | ||
| Jesse Lessard (Jlessard) Member Username: Jlessard Post Number: 111 Registered: 10-2002 |
hey making my truck poor out black smoke just sounds like too mutch fun, So I'm gonna give it a try too. Just a little confused on where you put it in though. you poor it into the air intake? | ||
| kevin mokracek (Kellymoe) New Member Username: Kellymoe Post Number: 14 Registered: 03-2004 |
Sea Foam is great!! After using it 2 days ago I put it on the dyno. Before Sea Foam 180hp. After Sea Foam 280hp and way more torque. Before SF my A/C was just putting out cold air, after SF it smells like lavender aeroma therapy! Before SF the most change I ever found under the seats was 86 cents and a feqw old boogers. After SF $3. THANKS SEA FOAM!!! In all honesty, it did work. Disco runs much smoother and idles steady with no hesitation. For $6 you cant go wrong. Plus the added fun of smoking out the neighborhood. | ||
| Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp) Member Username: Steve_rupp Post Number: 175 Registered: 03-2003 |
I don't understand why people aren't getting this. It is poured directly into the throttlebody (plenum) AFTER the Mass Airflow Sensor. DO NOT PUT IT IN FROM THE AIR CLEANER!! Do this when it's running. About 1/3 of a bottle. Like I said the last time you pour it in, pour in enough to kill it. Not too much though. Wait 10 minutes then start it again. Make sure the engine is warm before you do this. I can't wait to do it on my Samurai. Maybe it will be able to produce 66 hp again | ||
| R. B. Bailey (Rover50987) Senior Member Username: Rover50987 Post Number: 795 Registered: 07-2002 |
it's not that I don't know HOW to do it, it's exactly where. I'm standing on the drivers side, leaning into the engine bay over the front fender, looking past the filter, the MAF, and to the throttle body. THERE ARE FOUR HOSES THAT GO INTO THIS AREA. The confusion is that up above several of you are saying, "put it into THE hose" Some are saying one, some are saying another. Which? ALL? BOTH? Not to mention, there is nowhere near enough suction to pull the fluid into any of the hoses I tried. That is why I got confused when I actually went out to do the deed. | ||
| Paul Grant (Paul_in_ct) New Member Username: Paul_in_ct Post Number: 19 Registered: 12-2003 |
On my '89 I disconnected the T and poured the Seafoam into the hose that terminated next to the TPS. On my '85 I opted for disconnecting the hose leading to the brake servo. This hose would have worked fine for my '89 also (might have been a better choice considering how much more suction was present at the servo). I think I'll try it in the oil on the '89 next. It's due for an oil change so I figure if I drop this stuff in and go for a few hundred miles I should see some results when I drain the sump. I use Mobil One but I've only had this truck for about 6K miles and this would be its second change. I'm sure that the synthetic hasn't even begun to put a dent in all the sludge that has accumulated in the roughly 150K miles this truck has been on the road. It should be interesting. | ||
| Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp) Member Username: Steve_rupp Post Number: 176 Registered: 03-2003 |
R.B., pick the largest hose on the plenum. You are not looking for suction to pull the fluid in. After you have selected a hose, leave one side connected to the plenum, rotate it in an upward position. Then use a small funnel to pour it in. A LITLE AT A TIME or it will die. Repeat until a 1/3 of the bottle is gone. | ||
| Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp) Member Username: Steve_rupp Post Number: 177 Registered: 03-2003 |
Then you can take what's left over and pour it into your gas tank or oil or both. | ||
| Sergei Rodionov (Uzbad) Senior Member Username: Uzbad Post Number: 435 Registered: 08-2003 |
Well i tried it 2 hours ago. Poured 1/3 pint (as prescribed) into plenum, right behind throttle plate, using one of hooses that goes to T-piece. All that with engine idling. After 6 minutes truck struggled to start, then some more struggling and it started, but i havent got any black smokes - nada. Still running like one of them tractors  However idle is (and actually was) smooth. So much for all that excitement | ||
| Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp) Member Username: Steve_rupp Post Number: 179 Registered: 03-2003 |
I'm done. Some of you guys obviously have no clue what you are doing here. It's not rocket science. You might as well put it into a spray bottle and wash your windows with it. | ||
| Sergei Rodionov (Uzbad) Senior Member Username: Uzbad Post Number: 436 Registered: 08-2003 |
Steve - naah.. it will eat off all them fingers marks that i am collecting from me son. Seriously though - i did exactly same (before i even spotted your post) - and got none of effects as it sppse to be. I took plugs out to check, and they got plenty of crap on them, so i guess that cleaning had some effect, now i just want that stuff to go away into exhaust. And it wont. Guess i can make second attempt tomorrow. | ||
| James Anderson (Jnjander) Member Username: Jnjander Post Number: 57 Registered: 08-2003 |
So this is the right place? Disconnect hose, rotate and pour in small amounts. 99DII  | ||
| michael a. kerr (Ethanrover98) Member Username: Ethanrover98 Post Number: 60 Registered: 11-2003 |
LOL | ||
| James Anderson (Jnjander) Member Username: Jnjander Post Number: 58 Registered: 08-2003 |
Why the LOL? There are ten different people giving ten different locations. I am just trying to figure out who is right so I don't screw something up or waste a $6 can of seafoam. | ||
| Paul Grant (Paul_in_ct) New Member Username: Paul_in_ct Post Number: 20 Registered: 12-2003 |
The easiest vacuum hose to use is the one coming off the brake servo (booster). There is a great deal of suction at that hose to insure that every drop of Seafoam goes right where it belongs. When I used that hose I didn't even need a small funnel because the vacuum practically sucked the Seafoam right out of the can. I even had success with this method on a friends Toyota Camry. Seafoam also makes an additive for automatic transmissions and the old geezer at NAPA said he swears by the stuff. It might be worth checking out as well. | ||
| S.C.Young (Youngsc) Member Username: Youngsc Post Number: 55 Registered: 10-2003 |
I ran the treatment on the 95 D1 again- very little smoke this time. I can say without a doubt that the engine runs SO much better I'm absolutely amazed. It idles rock steady which it never did since I bought the thing. Fuel economy seems up slightly as well on the last two tanks. | ||
| Peter Carey (Peterca) Member Username: Peterca Post Number: 110 Registered: 10-2003 |
I decided to try a little on a 3.9 with over 170K miles that was idling like crap and dying at stop lights. Followed the instructions above and killed the engine with it. Then poured the remainder in the tank, assuming I had about 12 gallons. The truck didn't smoke much after restarting, but it was dark out. It ran well the next day for a while and I put maybe 60 highway miles on it and then another 30 slow road miles. After letting it sit for most of the day I got back in, started it up and in about 2 miles the check engine light came on. Checked the code (18) which said the pentometer (sp) didn't like the mixture. I assumed this was because the Seafoam I put in the tank now had less gas to mix with and was making things look rich. Filled up the tank and the light went off 30 seconds later. Other than that, the truck idles better but not perfect. I haven't checked the stepped motor yet though and only cleaned out the t fitting. All in all, I'd say it's worth it. pwc |
