| Author | Message | ||
     Billy Deakins (Discodog) Member Username: Discodog Post Number: 43 Registered: 11-2003 |
I don't know if this has been discussed before, but I was just reading up on the 110 CKD at SEMA and was curious if any of you know if you could import a 110 in to the U.S. under the collecter car law? I know it has to be driven less than 2500 miles per year and you can't be able to buy a similar model from a dealer in the U.S. Since you can't, would that make it eligible? Just curious. | ||
| eric w siepmann (Cdn001) Member Username: Cdn001 Post Number: 100 Registered: 12-2003 |
I would think not. But you could check on the DOT site. Since the D110 is not 25 years or older, it would still have to meet current EPA and DOT regulations. Which it would not. Especially if it was a diesel engine not already EPA approved. FWIW, I heard that the SEMA CKD has already been shipped out of the country. | ||
| S.C.Young (Youngsc) Member Username: Youngsc Post Number: 46 Registered: 10-2003 |
People are now importing 93 Defenders based on the fact that the 93 D110 was sold in the USA. You have to add the external cage and a few other goodies to make it match the specs of the original 93. Once you deviate from a 93, it's more trouble than it is worth. There's plenty of people importing newer 110's and faking the documents and retagging them as over 25 years old. It works for some people, but I imagine some will get caught. I looked into bringing a Camel Trophy vehicle in to the USA with the restrictions you mentioned with 2500 miles of use or less etc. It took all kinds of documentation showing it was historically significant etc. I would have had to post a significant bond and also export the vehicle within two years. Not worth it. | ||
| Billy Deakins (Discodog) Member Username: Discodog Post Number: 45 Registered: 11-2003 |
Thanks for the info. Just hoping I could find a loophole or something. Wishful thinking! | ||
| Mitch Williams (Mitch20) New Member Username: Mitch20 Post Number: 16 Registered: 12-2003 |
The scary thing is that regulations are so tight on this kind of stuff that when your vehicle arrives at port. It still could be seized. Bill Gates still has a Porsche 959 rotting away under government storage for the past 12 years. He will probably never see it. | ||
| Jack Leitch (Liveattheedge) Senior Member Username: Liveattheedge Post Number: 295 Registered: 12-2003 |
i coulda swore i read in a magazine that he got his 959 federalized. He ended up buying 5 of them, a few of them were crash tested etc. But i have read that he has the only legal 959 in the USA. Maybe i'm wrong Cheers Jack | ||
| Tim '92 RR (Snowman) Senior Member Username: Snowman Post Number: 721 Registered: 12-2002 |
Is it just me or does Bill Gates just not seem like a 959 type of guy? | ||
| Rick Neff (Lostinboston) Senior Member Username: Lostinboston Post Number: 390 Registered: 06-2003 |
Isnt it possible to bring a vehicle in for offroad use only? Such as a track or farm or trail use. Tim: isnt everyone a 959 type of guy? | ||
| KJ (Karen) Senior Member Username: Karen Post Number: 265 Registered: 02-2002 |
Interesting site about the 959: http://216.239.51.104/search?q=cache:91qP2kEFEhYJ:erntheburn.tripod.com/autos/95 9/+%22porsche+959%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 Karen | ||
| Greg Hirst (Gregh) Senior Member Username: Gregh Post Number: 529 Registered: 10-2002 |
Bill Gates has his 959 now thanks to Bruce Canepa's shop in Santa Cruz-Canepa Design. It took many years, alot of money, and an act of congress for it to happen. Others, including Ralph Lauren, worked with attorneys and Bruce Camepa to get a federal approval process that allowed a 1988 959 to be imported without meeting DOT requirements- only EPA requirements-provided that only 500 were imported, they never produced for US sale, the were rare, and they were driven less than 2500 miles a year after importation. Bruce Canepa had to make the emissions of the 959 at least 10% improved from any other 1988 us-legal Porsche. This required significant changes to the engine and engine managment systems. For instance, the US-legalized versions use Garrett turbos rather than the original KKK models. There are at least 4-5 other importers/federalizers selling "old" 959's in the US now that are street legal. With enough time and money you can import just about anything.  | ||
| Greg Hirst (Gregh) Senior Member Username: Gregh Post Number: 530 Registered: 10-2002 |
More info on Canepa's website: http://www.canepa.com/SportsLuxury/Showroom/959Main.asp | ||
| Jeff Mclaird (Granitedisco) Senior Member Username: Granitedisco Post Number: 309 Registered: 08-2003 |
Sometimes I have to wonder about all this "freedom" we have | ||
| S.C.Young (Youngsc) Member Username: Youngsc Post Number: 50 Registered: 10-2003 |
It is possible and fairly easy to import a vehicle for offroad/competition use only. I've done it before. The tree huggers have made the whole process suck- It's the EPA that crawls up your butt with a BIG microscope when you want to import a vehicle. | ||
| Jeff Mclaird (Granitedisco) Senior Member Username: Granitedisco Post Number: 312 Registered: 08-2003 |
yep and they don't even have the common courtesy to give ya a reach around. On a more serious note though - there has to be ways of circumnavigating the system. Always thought the best way to do it was bringing in a 110 as parts and "re-shelling it" onto a series. Especially if you are simply after a defender and really aren't interested in the re-sale. Jeff | ||
| S.C.Young (Youngsc) Member Username: Youngsc Post Number: 54 Registered: 10-2003 |
Some people simply get a 'certificate of origin' from a reproduction chassis and submit that for a title- then put the reproduction chassis serial number plate on the D110 chassis. | ||
| Steve Andrews (Sillybus) Senior Member Username: Sillybus Post Number: 446 Registered: 08-2002 |
It depends on the state you live in as well. I can't do this in Maryland: (scroll to bottom) http://www.discountbritishparts.com/Pictures/Pictures.html In some states, you apparently can get by bringing it in in 3 or more pieces which is what I believe Nathan did. |
