| Author | Message | ||
     Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 3108 Registered: 02-2002 |
Just read this.... although in this particular case, a bank erroneously called in the repo folks, it brought up the fact that someone could walk into a dealership with a VIN and get a key.... http://www.rmcb5.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=802&start=0&postda ys=0&postorder=asc&highlight= FWIW..... -L | ||
| Leigh Mikolajczyk (Leigh_m) Member Username: Leigh_m Post Number: 94 Registered: 01-2004 |
Please update us on your situation. | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 3109 Registered: 02-2002 |
??? I don't have a situation, I just was sent the link, thought it might be of interest to those who read this board....... -L | ||
| Alan Yim (Alan) Senior Member Username: Alan Post Number: 1172 Registered: 09-2002 |
Yes Leslie, please update us on your situation. What did the doctor say about that rash??  | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 3110 Registered: 02-2002 |
Oh, THAT situation..... It's fatal, after 200 more years..... too bad, eh? -L | ||
| Billy Deakins (Discodog) Member Username: Discodog Post Number: 47 Registered: 11-2003 |
That would suck to have happen to your car! I'd be a little bit pissed off. | ||
| Peter Carey (Peterca) Member Username: Peterca Post Number: 113 Registered: 10-2003 |
That was a damn funny story, in the sense of having the cop just step in and ask if you want press charges. I wouldn't be happy, but you get a good story out of it. I have a hard enough time getting my own keys to work in the ignition, don't know if a repo man would have much more luck pwc | ||
| Felix Gumbiner (Felixthecat) Member Username: Felixthecat Post Number: 97 Registered: 02-2004 |
I don't know, that sounds like a really fishy story. So many things don't make sense. Can a dealer really just give away keys with any old VIN? If they do, I think I found a pretty lucrative business... | ||
| John W (Disco_gold) New Member Username: Disco_gold Post Number: 37 Registered: 09-2003 |
If I'm wrong someone please let me know but this has been my experience. When you take a loan on a car the bank is the lein holder and maintains title. You don't get the title until the vehicle is paid in full. Since the bank owns the car it can authorize a repo company to take possession of it. Generally, dealerships will not give the keys to any old person but if a repo guy brings a letter from the bank with the VIN authorizing them to repo it, some dealerships (not all) will give repo guys the key. | ||
| Jeff Mclaird (Granitedisco) Senior Member Username: Granitedisco Post Number: 314 Registered: 08-2003 |
If in doubt change the locks and get a really nasty guard dog Jeff | ||
| Felix Gumbiner (Felixthecat) Member Username: Felixthecat Post Number: 99 Registered: 02-2004 |
Even so, John, I'm sure an inclined person could fabricate a convincing document, maybe a fake ID, put on a cheap suit, and just start walking away with people's cars... There's gotta be some sort of failsafe? | ||
| John W (Disco_gold) New Member Username: Disco_gold Post Number: 38 Registered: 09-2003 |
Felix, I have heard of cases where car thieves did just that but I don't think it is too common, or too easy. The failsafe is that the dealerships work with banks, finance companies, and sometimes even repo companies, on a regular basis so they generally know what looks right and what is bogus. That is never a 100% guaranee, though. Hell, people do entire identity take-overs with nothing more than one credit card application. | ||
| sam (Dent) Member Username: Dent Post Number: 59 Registered: 01-2004 |
John, heard of cases where the dealership will cut you a new key if you have all the information they want. From someone's license plate number you can get all the information you want regarding that car and alot of personal information regarding the owner of the car. Fake drivers license to boot and the key is yours... kinda scary... | ||
| Dave Nothstein (Corover) New Member Username: Corover Post Number: 3 Registered: 11-2003 |
If you want a key in my dealership,(I'm a Parts manager), I require a photo id, and a current registration or insurance card. I keep copies in a sealed file in the case that we get frauded. Some people don't like all the paperwork, but most people understand when I explain it. Land Rover released a bulletin on proper identification a few months back. | ||
| Greg Bright (Gregd2) Member Username: Gregd2 Post Number: 147 Registered: 06-2002 |
John W, You get a copy of the title, it just shows that there is a lien holder listed on it. This way, you have to pay the lien off and the bank can issue a lien release at that time. Now that I think about, this may vary from state to state. | ||
| S.C.Young (Youngsc) Member Username: Youngsc Post Number: 61 Registered: 10-2003 |
How can you produce the registration and insurance card if it's locked in your truck? If someone wants your vehicle badly enough- they'll get it. Not worth losing sleep over it. Obscuring the VIN with a map or parking pass shoved between the dashboard and glass is not suspicious, but get pulled over one time for whatever reason with paint or nail polish over the VIN and you'll probably be REALLY late to wherever you were headed while they sort your suspicious mod out. | ||
| John W (Disco_gold) New Member Username: Disco_gold Post Number: 39 Registered: 09-2003 |
Greg, You're right it does vary from state to state. I shouldn't make a blanket statement like that. Just speaking from my experience. Sam, it it scary. In some states DMV info is not released to the public but I'm told in some, if you file a hit and run report with DMV you can get the other vehicle owner's info. | ||
| Phil (Discoanywhere) Member Username: Discoanywhere Post Number: 199 Registered: 06-2003 |
I've gotten keys for a Disco and 2 Jeeps just walked into the dealership with the vin written down on a peice of paper... no questions asked. The whole time I'm thinking these guys aren't really??? | ||
| S.C.Young (Youngsc) Member Username: Youngsc Post Number: 63 Registered: 10-2003 |
Hmm... I think I'll get the VIN of that Kalahari I keep running across downtown... mwuaaahhahaha That dealer either really trusts you personally or woul give their lawyer a heart attack if he/she knew they did that. In some places, there are local laws that regulate the sale of keys by VIN. | ||
| dhk (Kay_tell) Member Username: Kay_tell Post Number: 51 Registered: 03-2004 |
i want keys to the new make three range rover! and i will pay you to bring them to me! then when the time is right i will ram into the new por-cheese and put an end to it all. she likes the germans and i the brits, dam the bickering every time we pass both! its like being online with the d web! but i am sure we all know where the taste lies! | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 1455 Registered: 09-2002 |
Greg, it's different from state to state. In Michigan, I had a title that listed the lienholder on it, in California, I only received title once the loan was paid off (after a Looooong delay and repeated calls to the bank and DMV). Les, a great story! Nearly Christmas-story ending, it rarely happens this way. |
