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     Felix Gumbiner (Felixthecat) Member Username: Felixthecat Post Number: 121 Registered: 02-2004 |
http://www.pirate4x4.com/albums/winterrun03/acl.jpg From Pirate4x4's photo gallery. | ||
| Dave Statler (Falconx84) Member Username: Falconx84 Post Number: 191 Registered: 02-2004 |
won't let me view it, it says forbidden to access on this server | ||
| Ryan Muller (Rmuller) New Member Username: Rmuller Post Number: 2 Registered: 04-2004 |
To view this picture go to: http://www.pirate4x4.com/albums/winterrun03/ and click on acl.jpg. It looks like pirate4x4 doesnt allow direct linking to pictures. -rm | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 1447 Registered: 09-2002 |
Felix, what does it have to do with the jeep? | ||
| Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp) Member Username: Steve_rupp Post Number: 218 Registered: 03-2003 |
Because Jeepers will do stupid things like tatoo their lips. | ||
| Jack Leitch (Liveattheedge) Senior Member Username: Liveattheedge Post Number: 329 Registered: 12-2003 |
and cut up/tailgate land rovers on the freeway.... maybe thats just me | ||
| Phil (Discoanywhere) Member Username: Discoanywhere Post Number: 211 Registered: 06-2003 |
Steve...your funny.. I use to be a jeeper and did stupid things all the time. I think it might have something to do with sitting in small horribly uncomfortable and confined spaces...while being almost vioently bounced around.. but hey its a jeep thing and thats kind-a like a handi-cap.. "This ain't no Jeep thing" | ||
| Trey & Melissa Burns (T_burns) New Member Username: T_burns Post Number: 33 Registered: 02-2004 |
I doubt the picture has much to do with a jeep thing but more so a Pirate 4x4 thing. I'm not knocking them at all but they are extreme. We could all get tattoos of the discoweb insignia to show our pride!!!(I'm kidding) | ||
| Jacquelyne Davis (Jmdavis) Member Username: Jmdavis Post Number: 61 Registered: 06-2003 |
nice yellow teeth...yuck | ||
| Felix Gumbiner (Felixthecat) Member Username: Felixthecat Post Number: 124 Registered: 02-2004 |
I was just tryin' to point out the distinct cultural(?) differences between Rover owners and Jeep owners... Give me my wine & cheese... at least I'll keep my dignity.  | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 1450 Registered: 09-2002 |
Felix, the number of "whiskey tango" rover owners is increasing much faster (relative to the rover population) than rednecks with the jeeps. Especially since the mid-90's Disco prices dropped below the Wranglers', and RRCs are nearly offered for free. | ||
| James M. Reed (Utahdog2003) Member Username: Utahdog2003 Post Number: 74 Registered: 03-2004 |
plaque!!! bleah! never advertise that you are a tasteless goon unless you floss first! | ||
| Jacquelyne Davis (Jmdavis) Member Username: Jmdavis Post Number: 62 Registered: 06-2003 |
BUT, it still takes quite a bit of dough to keep those older Discos & Rangies running smoothly... | ||
| Jack Leitch (Liveattheedge) Senior Member Username: Liveattheedge Post Number: 341 Registered: 12-2003 |
a lot... of money | ||
| Felix Gumbiner (Felixthecat) Member Username: Felixthecat Post Number: 128 Registered: 02-2004 |
Jacquelyne, while I don't like the implication that lots of money equate good taste, unfortunately in the 4x4 world that seems to be true. Without being haughty or using an overarching stereotype, doesn't it seem that Jeep runners are in general just cruder, less educated, and fit more of the "redneck" image? | ||
| Jeff Mclaird (Granitedisco) Senior Member Username: Granitedisco Post Number: 330 Registered: 08-2003 |
Felix - hate to burst your bubble - but over the other side of the pond - umm where Land Rovers come from - you will see people from all walks of life driving them. From Solicitors and Doctors to Gypsies. It's not that uncommon to see a really nice series or RRC parked outside housing projects. The average Roverite in the UK is more likely to be drinking a pint of beer (preferably Wadworths 6x) and chewing on a cheese and pickle sandwich than enjoying a Pic Saint Loup and some Camembert. However you are accurate on one aspect - lots of money certainly do not equate to good taste. regards Jeff | ||
| Felix Gumbiner (Felixthecat) Member Username: Felixthecat Post Number: 130 Registered: 02-2004 |
Don't get me wrong Jeff, I wasn't proposing that my personal feelings are that Rovers are for the Rich & Pretty... on the contrary, I'm a starving college student with no job, prospects, or girlfriend... with the rest of my life to pay off the loan for my Rover I wasn't trying to make a grand social extrapolation... only the difference between Rover and Jeep 4wheelers seems to be pronounced (if in only the most superficial ways?) | ||
| Jeff Mclaird (Granitedisco) Senior Member Username: Granitedisco Post Number: 332 Registered: 08-2003 |
Point taken Felix - seems to be similar across the enthusiasts world - Harley Davidsons and Japanese bikes, Muscle cars and Ricers etc part of the whole automobile/motorbike phenomenon I guess. Each has its own unique culture wonder what the Jeepers think of us ? Anyway think on the bright side - college won't last forever and hopefully the economy is going to do a turn around soon to take care of the job, prospects and girlfriend. regards Jeff | ||
| Chris Nuzum (Cnuzum) Member Username: Cnuzum Post Number: 133 Registered: 02-2003 |
Jeff, last week at the box offices, HELLBOY took in $23 million, I think thats a pretty damn good sign the economy is on the upswing. | ||
| Jeff Mclaird (Granitedisco) Senior Member Username: Granitedisco Post Number: 333 Registered: 08-2003 |
Yep - lets hope so - I have a ton of options I want to excercise and there is at least two more Rovers with my name on them Jeff | ||
| Matthew A. Barnes (Discoveryxd) Senior Member Username: Discoveryxd Post Number: 542 Registered: 08-2003 |
There's a saying that comes to mind... "Wine taste, on a beer budget" Some people (i.e.- rover owners) want the best, even if they have to make $$$ sacrifices. Some people buy jeeps because they're cheap, abundent, lots of parts, and tons of accesories. Many buy lifted jeeps that never see the dirt just to be, "part of the crowd." Matt | ||
| SSV (Susannah) Senior Member Username: Susannah Post Number: 922 Registered: 06-2002 |
Well, I love being considered "rich and pretty" in my D1 with all terrain tires, tree scratches and muddy wheels! It's tough when you grow up with that wine taste and budget, then get out on your own and discover you can barely afford Budweiser! ;) Felix, I didn't get my Rover until after my college graduation, so enjoy having yours a little early and stay in school as long as possible. It sucks in some ways...but you will certainly miss it once you are out! | ||
| SSV (Susannah) Senior Member Username: Susannah Post Number: 923 Registered: 06-2002 |
PS that photo is nasty and the guy must be stupid! | ||
| marc olivares (Pugs) Senior Member Username: Pugs Post Number: 452 Registered: 12-2002 |
you people make me laugh, quite this belly achin' bullshit that rover owners are superior to those who own jeeps. it's a load of crap! or did you forget that we all like to do the same shit, i'd like to be there the day that a "jeeper" gives you directions, gets you unstuck, or even better crawls on their back to fix your shit. jeepers don't do stupid things, stupid people do stupid things. and don't get me started on tattoos. as i know plenty of "rover" owners with shitty tattoos (me included) stepping down off soap box, marc | ||
| Felix Gumbiner (Felixthecat) Member Username: Felixthecat Post Number: 134 Registered: 02-2004 |
marc -- We aren't making personal judgments on the character of specific Jeep owners! Rivalries are common in every pasttime, and I was just trying to feel out the general consensus on DWeb regarding the Jeep community. There's no "superiority" at stake here... | ||
| James M. Reed (Utahdog2003) Member Username: Utahdog2003 Post Number: 85 Registered: 03-2004 |
no, no! Marc, you were on a roll! I was about ready to buy some Amway products! ;) I always thought of Jeep guys as being more reckless...maybe carefree is a better word. Whenever I would go on a run with some Jeep guys, they were always the ones buzzing around like lunatics trying to do crazy stuff. I just figured it had to do with the ease of bodywork repair...anyone can make a straight line with filler! | ||
| SSV (Susannah) Senior Member Username: Susannah Post Number: 927 Registered: 06-2002 |
I have plenty of Jeeper friends...and yes, we all like to do the same thing. I'm done posting on D-web today. Everyone is feisty. | ||
| Jacquelyne Davis (Jmdavis) Member Username: Jmdavis Post Number: 63 Registered: 06-2003 |
I don't think anybody here stated that rover owners are superior to those who own Jeeps. That's just ignorant. My dad was a Jeeper when I was growing up in west Texas; first car I ever drove was his burly Renegade when I was 7 years old (with him pushing on the gas pedal, of course). Before I got my Disco, I drove an old pioneer with a gazillion miles on it. Yeah, many Jeepers can be pretty rowdy, but there are many who have helped me along the way. But you can't deny that there is this 'stigma' that comes along with owning a Rover that is quite distinct from owning a Jeep. "or did you forget that we all like to do the same shit" Yeah, we like to do the same s**t, but we each do it differently. I saw a bunch of trailered jeeps on the way home from playing in the mountains yesterday; they were obviously coming back from the Easter Jeep Safari in Moab. They all had these HUGE tires and a bunch of other mods that just aren't necessary for even most of the difficult trails in Moab. In my eyes, these are the culprits of trail degredation. You just don't need that much lift or such huge tires, unless all you do is Pritchett and you don't aid with a winch. My point (hasty generalizations aside) is that it seems the real differences between Jeep owners and Rover owners is the WAY in which we use the trails. It's not everyday that you see a Rover with 36s or larger with a 6" lift, but here in Colorado, I usually see two or three jeeps a day with at least that on their rigs. It is MY PERSONAL OPINION that Rover owners generally tread lighter on these trails, and in my book, treading lightly means more class. Note: In no way am I picking on anybody whose Rover has 36s or a 6" lift. Having said that, I still would rather push my rover...and I even have a bad tattoo ;) | ||
| Brian Dickens (Bri) Senior Member Username: Bri Post Number: 1077 Registered: 08-2002 |
I think it is hilarious that Rover guys look down on Jeeper guys as much of this thread implies. Whether or not this is intended, it is definitely the way the thread reads. You're talking about more class, wine, cheese and treading lightly. Like the Jeepers don't know what the fuck a good Cab is? GIVE ME A BREAK! I have seen plenty of Rover guys that no nothing about treading lightly. You can make all kinds of statements of "opinions" and qualify it as a "generalization", but it is just that and definitely not accurate of the overall population of jeepers. Its also funny that you give the jeepers grief over larger tires, but then specifically call out that you are not giving crap to Rover guys with big tires. What a pansie. ;-) Shoot, the number of discussions on 35" tires on this site shows the trend. It is only a matter of time. If you don't think those tires are necessary, try running Helldorado and some other hardcore trails out there. And of course you are ASSUMING they were in Moab. I think a fair amount of this discussion is pretty darned hypocritical. I look down on nobody... regardless of what they drive and believe that it is this kind of opinion that give us Rover guys the typical, stereotype of snob/yuppie scum. Brian | ||
| Brian Dickens (Bri) Senior Member Username: Bri Post Number: 1078 Registered: 08-2002 |
Oh yeah. I am just waiting for the populous to figure out the large tire on a Disco problem. Then I am headed straight for the 40's. That is if I don't get my Mog first. ;-) | ||
| Jacquelyne Davis (Jmdavis) Member Username: Jmdavis Post Number: 65 Registered: 06-2003 |
That's why I stated 'hasty generalizations aside'. You clearly misunderstood what I meant; perhaps it is my [poor] style of writing which prohibits me from getting my point across effectively. That, and given that this is a public forum where lots of people are misunderstood. I stated that rover owners GENERALLY tread lighter; given the ratio of jeeps to rovers that actually use the trails...No s**t, there's all kinds of rigs with drivers who could care less about the trails. And in know way did I give jeepers grief. The rovers I've seen with the 36s ARE the people that run Helldorado & other real hardcore trails. Perhaps I didn't want to pick on the rover owners with the larger tires b/c one of them is my husband, who will eventually end up with larger tires on his rig, and he reads this site but never posts. And why do you call me a pansie, and then wink afterwards? Did you mean this or not? I'm cornfused! BTW, I know they were in Moab, as I spoke with many of them over the cb. Also, the color of the dirt on their rigs was unmistakable. Please don't imply that I look down on jeepers, because I truly don't! I was one of them! "I look down on nobody" Well, you sure talk down to people. Hrumph. My feelings are hurt. I'm going to have some wine now. | ||
| Trey Burns (T_burns) Member Username: T_burns Post Number: 41 Registered: 02-2004 |
I agree with Marc and Brian on this one. My first impression was that Felix was making a Jeep vs./ L.R. thing - hence, the reason I posted saying it was probably more so a POR thing versus a jeep thing. The POR board is not just a jeep forum so who knows if that guy really even owns a jeep. Probably 30% of the "TRUE" members of the POR forum do not drive jeeps. I belong to clubs that are mixed with anything 4wd and just a L.R. club. I have made wonderful friends in all the clubs regardless of what they drove. Like any other group you become friends with those that you get along with well not bc./ they drive this or that. As far as bulit up rigs - to each his own. Depending upon what you want to accomplish (as far as offroading) I think the vehicle plays a major factor in how much and what you can bulid up. (Jeeps are great for extreme rock crawling). Sure when we have been out at different off road parks some of the places and people do not accept Rovers being in there company to well. For me I could careless what they think. If they are not going to like me bc./ of what I drive then I don't care to know them since right there they are showing me how shallow of a person they are. Other people it just took them time to learn that I am not some stuck of snob who thinks bc./ I have a L.R. that I am better than them or that I am poser with a 4wd. Bottom line for me is I don't like when others throw me in a sterotype bc./ of what I drive and I don't think it's fair when others do it to other vehicles either. More important than what someone drives should be how the person drives. I can't tell you how many times my best friend with his JEEP has saved my ass. Sorry for the long soap box it just bothers me when people flame others bc./ of what they drive - it seems senseless to me. | ||
| Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp) Member Username: Steve_rupp Post Number: 223 Registered: 03-2003 |
I always say "To each his own". I have found that with my experience offroading with jeeps, they do seem to be a little more reckless. I don't know why that is. I think it's cool to see jeeps do dumb things. I too do a lot of dumb things. I just won't do something if I feel that there is no way of getting through without body damage. Although it happens. That's why I have my Sammy. If I want to get reckless, I'll do it in my sammy. I have a fraction invested in that than I do in my rover. | ||
| Jacquelyne Davis (Jmdavis) Member Username: Jmdavis Post Number: 66 Registered: 06-2003 |
show us a photo!!! | ||
| Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp) Member Username: Steve_rupp Post Number: 225 Registered: 03-2003 |
photo of what? | ||
| Felix Gumbiner (Felixthecat) Member Username: Felixthecat Post Number: 135 Registered: 02-2004 |
"A photo of your boobs!" - Average 25 year old Jeeper ...just kidding | ||
| Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp) Member Username: Steve_rupp Post Number: 227 Registered: 03-2003 |
 No E-brake | ||
| Jeff Mclaird (Granitedisco) Senior Member Username: Granitedisco Post Number: 340 Registered: 08-2003 |
Have you done the VW turbo diesel conversion on it Steve ? | ||
| Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp) Member Username: Steve_rupp Post Number: 229 Registered: 03-2003 |
That would be pretty cool, but no engine mods. Stock 1.3. The computer is out right now for servicing, but it will be back tearing up the trail in a week. Does the VW conversion match up to the stock trans or do you need a new trans? Just curious. | ||
| Jacquelyne Davis (Jmdavis) Member Username: Jmdavis Post Number: 67 Registered: 06-2003 |
neato | ||
| Jeff Mclaird (Granitedisco) Senior Member Username: Granitedisco Post Number: 341 Registered: 08-2003 |
I think you have to use a sandwich plate for the stock trans. There's a company that does all the kit for these little beasties. http://www.rocky-road.com/diesel.html Gotta say that I wouldn't mind one of these myself. Jeff | ||
| Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp) Member Username: Steve_rupp Post Number: 230 Registered: 03-2003 |
Thanks Jeff. At their site right now. I didn't know they offered kits. | ||
| Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp) Member Username: Steve_rupp Post Number: 231 Registered: 03-2003 |
Jeff, it looks like a pretty involved job. Maybe someday. Or I'll just have somebody do it for me. What's the fun in that though. | ||
| Marc M (Mosi) Member Username: Mosi Post Number: 51 Registered: 09-2002 |
RE: "you people make me laugh, quite this belly achin' bullshit that rover owners are superior to those who own jeeps. it's a load of crap! or did you forget that we all like to do the same shit, i'd like to be there the day that a "jeeper" gives you directions, gets you unstuck, or even better crawls on their back to fix your shit. jeepers don't do stupid things, stupid people do stupid things. and don't get me started on tattoos. as i know plenty of "rover" owners with shitty tattoos (me included) stepping down off soap box, marc" Ahh shit! You got tattoos? I don't think I want to hang with you in Moab in a couple of weeks then! =) Do you have any Pacific NW beer requests? | ||
| Sean Roberts (Luckyrover) New Member Username: Luckyrover Post Number: 30 Registered: 03-2004 |
Ha, this is funny! The only reason that I bought a Rover was to be different. I sold my Wrangler for a Rangie, and I accomplished my goal. I was told by a guy in an XJ over EJS this year that he has never seen a Range Rover on the trails. Having said that I don't have enough fingers on my hands to count the number of places that my Jeep or my dad's Rubicon has gone that my Rover can't. It may have something to do with the fact that both Jeeps have/had 37" Swampers on them. But the plain and simple fact is that Jeeps are easy to build and fun to drive. With the Jeeps we could cruise Prichett in a couple of hours without any sort of winch or straps. Lower Helldorado was not too bad, and I didn't have to worry about breaking my GAY 10 spline axle shafts. Having said that I don't think that I would go back to a Jeep again as a Daily Driver, just too rough for my liking. And the Jeep can't hold a candle to the Rover in Baja capabilities. The Jeep was built for rocks (D60 front, corprate 14 rear, 37" Swampers, sprung-over, 106" wheelbase, etc). The Rover is more fun for different reasons, and as soon as I get my 60's for the front and rear I won't have to worry about breaking axles anymore. | ||
| Felix Gumbiner (Felixthecat) Member Username: Felixthecat Post Number: 137 Registered: 02-2004 |
Marc -- Every had "Henry Weinhard's Private Reserve"? From the Seattle area... we get it here in Boulder for $7.46 a 12 pack. It's fucking fantastic. All I drink. | ||
| Brian Dickens (Bri) Senior Member Username: Bri Post Number: 1079 Registered: 08-2002 |
Jacq, I did not misunderstand what you posted; you are just in denial about how some people (me as an example) perceive your statements. Perhaps since I consider myself a jeeper, is one reason why this attitude is offensive to me. The reason I used the ;-), is so you don't take it too "hard". "My point (hasty generalizations aside) is that it seems the real differences between Jeep owners and Rover owners is the WAY in which we use the trails. " My point is it has nothing to do with the jeep and making these kind of statements regardless of how you have qualify them gives us others the excellent opportunity to generalize us as snobs. I am not talking down to you, I am arguing against your point because I think it presents a holier then thou attitude that I don't agree with. Sorry, I did not intend to hurt your feelings. GO AVS!!!!!!!!!!! Brian | ||
| Marc M (Mosi) Member Username: Mosi Post Number: 52 Registered: 09-2002 |
Felix, Henrys is from Portland originally.. something like 1880ish. It's the best cheap beer out there IMO. I can get a half rack for 5.99 here. Try the Northwest Trail style sometime if you guys get it. | ||
| Jacquelyne Davis (Jmdavis) Member Username: Jmdavis Post Number: 68 Registered: 06-2003 |
I agree it leaves a bad taste in my mouth when people judge me or put a label on me. For example, "Oh, you live in Bowwlllder". I used to get that one alot. I try not to let what others think bring me down. I love to wheel because it's fun. It's hard not to be a hypocrite sometimes though- being a little on the green side, I notice also what wheeling can do to the trails. It's important to me to do it with as little impact, so many others can enjoy those same trails in the future. I guess I should have just left the Jeep w/ big tires thing out of the equation. In no way did I think by posting what I did would I be giving the Rover community as a whole a bad rep. Those were never my intentions, as I'm sure weren't the intentions of others who have participated in this thread. I apologize for leaving the door open to interpretation... My feelings weren't really hurt; tongue-in-cheek, if you will, by pouting and acting like a "girl" (how's that for a stereotype) although I did have a glass of wine. Now how 'bout them Pioneers!!! I already got my championship!! Yay DU!! Avs would be the icing on the cake, though. | ||
| James M. Reed (Utahdog2003) Member Username: Utahdog2003 Post Number: 88 Registered: 03-2004 |
wow! some people are too sensitive! I don't remember anybody actually saying that they wouldn't let a filthy Jeep owning knuckledragger into their home while they were listening to Vivaldi and enjoying a nice Beaujolais. Last time I checked we were just making fun of some Pirate guys oral-prison-tat! Teasing is fun. Teasing is good. People have been teasing me for YEARS. Tease on! I lived in Boulder for a bit, so don't even get me started on my 'Trustafarians with Rovers' diatribe! | ||
| SSV (Susannah) Senior Member Username: Susannah Post Number: 930 Registered: 06-2002 |
Wow...this thread has changed tone about 10 times. Disclaimer: all my posts were made in a joking/fun/light-hearted mood. I have met or know some great Jeep people and some great Rover people. I've also met some stupid people in general, regardless of what they drive. Case in point: I met a guy who put a lift and bigger tires on his Disco before realizing that he has a locking CDL. He kept thinking that the truck wasn't capable and needed mods. He hasn't even removed the front air dam....now THAT"S a smart fellow. Way to know your vehicle. The first truck I ever drove was an 81 Jeep Scrambler, and my first car in high school was a Mercedes. I'm the upper-middle to high class daughter of a physician in private practice. I went to a public high school and a private college. How's that for duality and lack of stereotype? Go figure. | ||
| Tim '92 RR (Snowman) Senior Member Username: Snowman Post Number: 741 Registered: 12-2002 |
Funny I was a middle-class son with no father who went to a private elem. & HS and a public college. Does that make any sense? | ||
| Jake Hartley (Jake) Senior Member Username: Jake Post Number: 277 Registered: 03-2002 |
more importantly, do you still have the Scrambler? Seriously, Jeeps and Discos were/are built for entirely different purposes. A more logical comparo would be between a Jeep & a Series. Jeeps are popular here for one reason because they are made here. Landies are very popular with Brits for the same reason. Its OK to have some fun with "rival groups" but we had best learn to stick together in these days of trail closures and posted property. | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Dweb Lounge Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 2705 Registered: 02-2002 |
Henry Weinhard's Private Reserve Damn good beer. | ||
| Trey Burns (T_burns) Member Username: T_burns Post Number: 44 Registered: 02-2004 |
Right on Jake! With more and more states loosing access for places to play the 4wd community needs to come together to fight this. | ||
| SSV (Susannah) Senior Member Username: Susannah Post Number: 932 Registered: 06-2002 |
Tim, we are a bunch of screwed up folk! | ||
| SSV (Susannah) Senior Member Username: Susannah Post Number: 933 Registered: 06-2002 |
Oh, and unfortunately, my dad sold the Scrambler in the 90s. We put TONS of money in it...but it was still in good shape.  Should have kept it! We were the original owners, but we didn't need it at the time. Live and Learn! | ||
| SSV (Susannah) Senior Member Username: Susannah Post Number: 934 Registered: 06-2002 |
And speaking of Scramblers...look at THIS!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6280&item=2473 526888&rd=1 | ||
| Jake Hartley (Jake) Senior Member Username: Jake Post Number: 278 Registered: 03-2002 |
now that is a rig that anyone would look good in, bad teeth & tattoos or not! most likely room for wine, cheese, AND beer! | ||
| Tim '92 RR (Snowman) Senior Member Username: Snowman Post Number: 743 Registered: 12-2002 |
I like to say there is a little "Seinfeld" in all of us. I remember the year the Scrambler was introduced. I always wished it was just a bit longer in the cargo area. What exactly stopped it's production? | ||
| Greg P. (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1608 Registered: 11-2003 |
Somewhere I saw some recent pictures of a concept truck Jeep had out that resembled the scrambler, but I can't remember now what they were calling it. | ||
| Greg P. (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1610 Registered: 11-2003 |
http://trucks.about.com/cs/jeep/a/jeep_scrambler.htm Haha. Here is the link, although I don't think they are going to make them. | ||
| Greg P. (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1611 Registered: 11-2003 |
http://trucks.about.com/cs/jeep/a/jeep_unlimited.htm And it looks like this is the replacement for it. | ||
| Jake Hartley (Jake) Senior Member Username: Jake Post Number: 279 Registered: 03-2002 |
that looks pretty good, a jeep with a room for some gear (or a dog on the deck and rear seat passengers) | ||
| SSV (Susannah) Senior Member Username: Susannah Post Number: 936 Registered: 06-2002 |
We saw the concept Scrambler at Camp Jeep last year...I've got the pictures somewhere. I'll find them and post. | ||
| Tim '92 RR (Snowman) Senior Member Username: Snowman Post Number: 744 Registered: 12-2002 |
Jeep uses the term "Trail Rated by Jeep" in their advertising. Is it just a phrase to add perceived value or does it actually mean it comes with specific options? | ||
| SSV (Susannah) Senior Member Username: Susannah Post Number: 937 Registered: 06-2002 |
Here you go guys...it's called the BRUTE and I have to admit...it was AWESOME! The ground clearance must have been 15-20 inches under that thing (uh,body and frame)!   | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Dweb Lounge Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 2706 Registered: 02-2002 |
That thing is bad ass! | ||
| SSV (Susannah) Senior Member Username: Susannah Post Number: 938 Registered: 06-2002 |
And just for comparison, they had a Scrambler there in perfect shape:  | ||
| Sergei Rodionov (Uzbad) Senior Member Username: Uzbad Post Number: 493 Registered: 08-2003 |
Felix, you keep having those remarks on average 25 yrs old. How old are you exactly? | ||
| Madison Smartt (Madison) New Member Username: Madison Post Number: 14 Registered: 06-2003 |
Check it out at aev-conversions.com | ||
| Tim '92 RR (Snowman) Senior Member Username: Snowman Post Number: 745 Registered: 12-2002 |
I like that alot! Specs: http://www.jpmagazine.com/featuredvehicles/154_0212_brute/ | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Dweb Lounge Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 2707 Registered: 02-2002 |
BTW, I am not joking. I really dig that thing. Put a diesal in it, lock it, pull those crap lights off and install a rack o' Hellas, remove the hardtop to allow the manufacture of saftey bars covered by a soft top. | ||
| SSV (Susannah) Senior Member Username: Susannah Post Number: 939 Registered: 06-2002 |
Oh, but here are some of my other favorites (i forgot I had all these pictures)!     | ||
| SSV (Susannah) Senior Member Username: Susannah Post Number: 940 Registered: 06-2002 |
Paul, I really like the Brute too. Ivan and I both said if they make that thing, we want one. The Tomb Raider Rubicon was cool...but I never got to see the TR Defender for comparison (though the pic of it is my desktop background!). By far, the best looking thing at Camp Jeep though was this:  We all know who that is...funny thing is, they let him park in there and I had to park my Disco about 2 miles away! Call me a snob anyday, I love that D-90. | ||
| Jake Hartley (Jake) Senior Member Username: Jake Post Number: 283 Registered: 03-2002 |
I want a Brute and I am voting with Paul for a diesel | ||
| James M. Reed (Utahdog2003) Member Username: Utahdog2003 Post Number: 92 Registered: 03-2004 |
We need to tie all these cool Wrangler variants to he whole "Anti-LR3" spat that landed in its own new category last week. Ask me now what I would by after the Disco leaves, and I might say Stretched Wrangler. Too bad the production one has such an awkward roll-bar. | ||
| Greg P. (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1613 Registered: 11-2003 |
Well, to get a brute you will have to have it custom built I think. I think it looks pretty cool too, but would be awesome with a rool cage and full canvas top over the rear like a series truck. | ||
| Brian Dickens (Bri) Senior Member Username: Bri Post Number: 1085 Registered: 08-2002 |
Well, the coil over scrambler was a waste of a good jeep IMHO, but to each his/her own. Someday I will breakdown and find one or wait for the Rubicon Unlimited. That would kick ass. But if they come out with something similar to this: http://jeepin.com/news/rescue/index.asp Well, then I will have to tell myself over and over that I do not need to buy a *new* vehicle. | ||
| Ray Wallace (Rayd2) Member Username: Rayd2 Post Number: 70 Registered: 05-2003 |
Sus, after seeing your picture of the old Scrambler I now understand why you are a horsewoman. Must have been a kick to drive that thing, then get on a spirited 4-legged steed and get the same "feel in the seat". Ya gotta bring your rig out to Montana and get some serious seat time in/on both types of rides. Ray | ||
| SSV (Susannah) Senior Member Username: Susannah Post Number: 948 Registered: 06-2002 |
Ray, you are so right! I guess I hadn't really thought about it, but since I don't have any horses right now (and haven't ridden much since finishing college) my Rover is the substitute. My dad always said it was amazing that I could control a 1500lb animal...and now a 5000lb vehicle! And yes, the scrambler initiated my love for trucks/4wd. I used to sit on my dad's lap and steer while he did the pedals/gears....I was 3 when we bought it!! Montana is my second favorite place on earth (second only to Hawaii) and I would love to make a return visit. | ||
| Ray Wallace (Rayd2) Member Username: Rayd2 Post Number: 76 Registered: 05-2003 |
Sus, let me know the dates, and we'll meet up at Triple Creek Ranch near Darby (southern MT). You can even bring your husband-- I'm an old, safe guy. Great horses, great trails for both horses and rigs, zillions of elk, deer, trout if you're into fishing, not too many bear, and the clearest nights you'll ever see in the US. I'll treat for one night-- the rest are on you. Ray |
