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Ted Moyer (Tedmoyer)
New Member Username: Tedmoyer
Post Number: 28 Registered: 07-2003
| Posted on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 06:11 pm: |
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There is a company called Adventuretrex www.adventuretrex.com that advertises Four Wheeling trips in Belize in D-90's. It is run by a man named Graham Herbert. I paid my money to the S.O.B. only to have him cancel my trip two weeks before and then not refund my cash or return my many e-mails/phone calls. Graham used to operate a website called Land Rover Zone as well. If anyone knows where I can get hold of him, please let me know. He currently advertises LR trips to Belize, Africa and the USA. DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH ADVENTURETREX!!! |
   
Peter Carey (Peterca)
Member Username: Peterca
Post Number: 126 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 06:48 pm: |
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I'm assuming you have the info from the website already but just in case: 256 West College #5 Covina, CA 91723 562-458-4548 gherbert at gte.net pwc |
   
Blue (Blue)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue
Post Number: 1506 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 07:22 pm: |
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Go hang out at P.O. Box 3268, Covina, CA 91721 USA and see who is picking up the mail. Make old Graham an offer to refund your money that he just can't refuse. |
   
Ted Moyer (Tedmoyer)
New Member Username: Tedmoyer
Post Number: 30 Registered: 07-2003
| Posted on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 07:52 pm: |
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Thanks Peter, Yes I have that info. It is his cell-phone that is apparantly never answered. But thanks. |
   
Phil (Discoanywhere)
Member Username: Discoanywhere
Post Number: 209 Registered: 06-2003
| Posted on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 08:13 pm: |
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Thats funny a friend of mine was ripped by a guy in Belize who said he was selling D-90's and ran an adventure company?? I think his name was Ken or something though?? Man I hope you get this worked out... keep us posted. |
   
Glenn Guinto (Glenn)
Senior Member Username: Glenn
Post Number: 865 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 08:35 pm: |
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Man...sorry to hear about your misfortunes with this company. One would think that those crappy-assed photo-chopped pictures with the 'inserted' logo would be enough to deter further inquiries or any business dealings. I would bet those were all stolen from the web. Hope you get your money back. -Glenn |
   
Ryan Johnson (Disco007)
Member Username: Disco007
Post Number: 46 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 09:50 pm: |
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The site says $1750 for two people one vehicle and $500 deposit. I hope you didn't lose the whole sum. Find him and get a good lawyer. It is not cool to get scammed. |
   
Ted Moyer (Tedmoyer)
New Member Username: Tedmoyer
Post Number: 31 Registered: 07-2003
| Posted on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 10:03 pm: |
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Glen, Yes, in retrospect there were lots of warning signs - including the fact that the "busines" phone is a cell. He did have a physical address a year ago when I started contacting him (today is only a P.O. box -with a fictitious zip by the way) I was sort of lulled into complacency by an article on the company which appeared in LROI last year which gave it some legitimacy in my eyes I suppose. Ryan - he did not take me for quite that much - but it was plenty enough to make me feel like a complete idiot. I just want to make sure no one else gets burned by this guy. |
   
Ted Moyer (Tedmoyer)
New Member Username: Tedmoyer
Post Number: 32 Registered: 07-2003
| Posted on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 10:30 pm: |
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You have to love the Rover Community. From a contact I made this morning at the Southern California Land Rovers, I got Mr. Herberts place of employment and phone number. I just got off the phone with him. I think things will progress from here. Thanks everyone! |
   
Phil (Discoanywhere)
Member Username: Discoanywhere
Post Number: 210 Registered: 06-2003
| Posted on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 10:47 pm: |
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Ted check this out... apparently he sells CT stuff on ebay? anyway might help? http://www.fourfold.org/RoverWeb/mailinglist-archives/lro/2003/01/07/0008.html |
   
Abraham (Roverthen)
New Member Username: Roverthen
Post Number: 26 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 10:52 pm: |
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Ted, have you tried to dispute the charges from your credit card or paypal? I would also contact the Better Business Bureau and Consumer Affairs. There might be enough info on this guy to track him. |
   
Wicks (Wicks)
Member Username: Wicks
Post Number: 172 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 11:40 pm: |
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Is that Marilyn Monroe in the Series on his web site there? Doesn't look like a cut& paste. http://www.adventuretrex.com/pages/955987/index.htm |
   
Pugsly (Pugsly)
Senior Member Username: Pugsly
Post Number: 353 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 03:10 am: |
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Hey Ted - we're joining in on a trip down to Belize & Guatemala in late August. Don't know how that fits in your time frame but at least it is legit. http://www.expeditionfilmpartners.com/expeditions/splash.html |
   
Reed Cotton (Reedcotton)
Senior Member Username: Reedcotton
Post Number: 340 Registered: 01-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 03:38 am: |
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Wicks- That is Marilyn Monroe in the picture. The Series I belonged to her then husband Arthur Miller.
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Alyssa Brown (Alyssa)
Senior Member Username: Alyssa
Post Number: 666 Registered: 01-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 08:29 am: |
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Yeah, I bought some CT stickers from him at MAR, which he said were legit, and they completely fell apart within the ONE DAY they were on... and he wouldn't do anything about it. Wouldn't refund my money, wouldn't apologize, nothing. Grrrrrrr....... |
   
Glenn Guinto (Glenn)
Senior Member Username: Glenn
Post Number: 867 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 08:42 am: |
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So Alyssa, you actually met this character?! at MAR? Damn...pretty bold of him to show up at those places and scam people. There's obviously always two sides to every story but just judging by that website, I think his credibility is as credible as those stolen 'borrowed' pictures he shows with the crappy inserted logo. CRUCIFY HIM!!! -glenn |
   
Alyssa Brown (Alyssa)
Senior Member Username: Alyssa
Post Number: 667 Registered: 01-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 09:50 am: |
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It was a few years back. He was a new company, and he had cool things. I didn't ever see him back after that year. |
   
Alan E. Foster (Vt_alan)
Member Username: Vt_alan
Post Number: 70 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 09:52 am: |
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Glenn, Your timing with that last comment is impeccable ... |
   
Ted Moyer (Tedmoyer)
New Member Username: Tedmoyer
Post Number: 33 Registered: 07-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 10:35 am: |
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Uh .. As a rule, I am basically against crucifictions. I really just want my money back. As I said, someone in the Rover Community was kind enough to send me the name and address of Graham's employer and his work number. Now that I have located him, I am pretty confident of being paid. If not, I am sure that LRNA and Ford Motor company will be interested to know about someone associating the Land Rover brand name with a seedy business (they have more expensive lawyers than I do.) |
   
Glenn Guinto (Glenn)
Senior Member Username: Glenn
Post Number: 869 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 10:55 am: |
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LOL.... just kidding of course. I hope you get your money back Ted. Please keep us posted. |
   
Chris Browne (Chris_browne)
Senior Member Username: Chris_browne
Post Number: 750 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 02:41 pm: |
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From internic Registrant: ADVENTURETREX INTERNATIONAL (TISDFTVTTD) 256 WEST COLLEGE #5 COVINA, CA 91723 US Domain Name: ADVENTURETREX.COM Administrative Contact: ADVENTURETREX INTERNATIONAL (RDESTQEBRO) [email protected] 256 WEST COLLEGE #5 COVINA, CA 91723 US 562-458-4548 fax: 123 123 1234 Technical Contact: Network Solutions, LLC. (HOST-ORG) [email protected] 13200 Woodland Park Drive Herndon, VA 20171-3025 US 1-888-642-9675 fax: 571-434-4620 Record expires on 11-Aug-2004. Record created on 11-Aug-2002. Database last updated on 13-Apr-2004 14:34:30 EDT. Domain servers in listed order: NS59.WORLDNIC.COM 216.168.225.199 NS60.WORLDNIC.COM 216.168.225.200
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Porter Mann (Porter)
Member Username: Porter
Post Number: 160 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 03:55 pm: |
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I went to aventuretrex.com and besides the background picture, it looks empty now. |
   
James M. Reed (Utahdog2003)
Member Username: Utahdog2003
Post Number: 82 Registered: 03-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 04:11 pm: |
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site is down. good thing Chris pulled the info |
   
Pugsly (Pugsly)
Senior Member Username: Pugsly
Post Number: 357 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 04:43 pm: |
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It's cached on google, along with everything else that was ever on the web... http://66.102.11.104/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=cache%3Awww.adventuret rex.com |
   
James M. Reed (Utahdog2003)
Member Username: Utahdog2003
Post Number: 84 Registered: 03-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 05:09 pm: |
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site is back. somebody's home, moving stuff around. |
   
John Gadd (Roverdude)
Member Username: Roverdude
Post Number: 49 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 06:06 pm: |
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Be careful to quick judgment. I hear there is two sides to this story. |
   
flyor (Flyor)
Member Username: Flyor
Post Number: 99 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 06:22 pm: |
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If it's true, that this guy is a dipshit, I recomend that he is staked out, then an OFFROAD COMMODE be backed over his head and put in use. |
   
Ho Chung (Thediscoho)
Moderator Username: Thediscoho
Post Number: 756 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 06:34 pm: |
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john dude, now you got me curious. what's the other side of the story like? Ho Chung
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Ted Moyer (Tedmoyer)
New Member Username: Tedmoyer
Post Number: 34 Registered: 07-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 07:31 pm: |
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John, There is always another side to every story - agreed. And based on the info in your profile, I can gues that you know or work with Mr. Herbert. But I can tell you these facts from THIS side of the story. On 2/21/04 Adventuretrex sent me a notice that my trip was cancelled and stated I would rec. a refund in 10 days. I e-mailed and phoned Graham EVERY DAY from then to yesterday with NO RESPONSE an NO REFUND. That is a fact. It is also a FACT that the Adventuretrex phone number belongs to a pre-paid cell phone which makes it almost untraceable. I finally rec'd and e-mail from Adventuretrex THIS MORNING after reaching out to D-web and several other Rover-oriented boards/lists and tracking Graham down and contacting him at his place of employment. That e-mail said, basically, "check is in the mail" If I recieve my refund I will inform everyone on this board. Yes there are always two sides to every story - I cannnot tell you what the other side is, because I had NO communication for two months from Adventuretrex, and whatever the other side is, no communication is a bad way to conduct business. sorry for the rant. cheers, |
   
Blue (Blue)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue
Post Number: 1519 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 07:44 pm: |
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Well now, that pretty much sums that one up. Ted sounds like a stand-up guy. Anything to add, John? |
   
John Gadd (Roverdude)
Member Username: Roverdude
Post Number: 50 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 09:14 pm: |
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If this interests others so much and before you pass judgement and start to crucify, get both sides of the story. Before Graham began working with me, he was a very respected Sales Guide at a competative LR dealer. Now, as a manager, he is an asset. I also had purchased many CT items from him in the past. He was the 'go to' guy in the states for that stuff. Some of you may have even met him and purchased quality items at MAR. I and others in the LR community, have nothing but respect for Graham. Don't believe everything people post on the internet. |
   
Ted Moyer (Tedmoyer)
New Member Username: Tedmoyer
Post Number: 37 Registered: 07-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 09:29 pm: |
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I think I can attest to not believing everything people post on the internet. Such as www.adventuretrex.com |
   
John Gadd (Roverdude)
Member Username: Roverdude
Post Number: 51 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 10:07 pm: |
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LOL, I had to bust out laughing on that! Thanks Ted |
   
Will Bobbitt (Rkores)
Senior Member Username: Rkores
Post Number: 338 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 10:50 pm: |
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John, Were you at TReK 2003? |
   
John Gadd (Roverdude)
Member Username: Roverdude
Post Number: 52 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 11:34 pm: |
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Unfortunately, the year I qualified (2002) Ford decided to cancel the competition. I'll tell you though, it would be an honor if I'm ever fortunate enough to make it in the future. |
   
Ho Chung (Thediscoho)
Moderator Username: Thediscoho
Post Number: 757 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 01:47 am: |
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john, cut the crap and tell us the other side of the damn story! Ho Chung
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Glenn Guinto (Glenn)
Senior Member Username: Glenn
Post Number: 872 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 07:54 am: |
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Post by John Gadd
quote:Some of you may have even met him and purchased quality items at MAR.
Post by Alyssa Brown
quote:Yeah, I bought some CT stickers from him at MAR, which he said were legit, and they completely fell apart within the ONE DAY they were on... and he wouldn't do anything about it. , wouldn't apologize, nothing. Grrrrrrr.......
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gp (Garrett)
Senior Member Username: Garrett
Post Number: 2471 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 08:50 am: |
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i had a 'similar' situation a few years back. i was not getting an item i paid for and i eventually came to DWEB to bitch. several months pasted and i FINALLY got a response back after several postings bashing this fella. apparently he was in a very bad accident and in a coma for a long time. needless to say i felt like shit for bashing him and posted that on DWEB. now i am going through a similar situation with John Miller from N. Carolina. sent me a VERY leaky 4.0 and now he won't return my emails and the shipping company that sent it is not getting paid either. they are calling me and trying to find out the deal. not to mention he overcharged me for shipping. so this time i am being a little more careful before i jump all over his shit. it's hard because i really want to go down and use Blue's method (a soaked 2x4) and beat his ass, but i will wait a little longer. hoping this dude is not in a coma, but i might feel like putting him in the ICU soon. regardless i am with Ted on this still. it is hard to bite your tongue when you are getting hosed for a lot of cash. someone fucked up and it wasn't Ted.
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Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor
Post Number: 1797 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 10:22 am: |
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it never pays to be cheap garrett... you havent learned that lesson yet. rd |
   
Conor Furr (Evergreen)
New Member Username: Evergreen
Post Number: 9 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 11:01 am: |
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gp, im also waiting for a response from John Miller. i bought a D1 steel spare from him, and sent the money, but no word on if its shipped or not. im hoping he has shipped it and it just hasnt gotten here yet. Conor |
   
James M. Reed (Utahdog2003)
Member Username: Utahdog2003
Post Number: 87 Registered: 03-2004
| Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 11:17 am: |
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Not returning calls when you operate a business in inexcusable. Unless some horrific event occured and everybody who worked at/knew of Adventuretrex is incapacitated and unable to answer the phone/email, then Ted should have been contacted. Even a "Dear Ted, this is a simple note to inform you that Graham was leading a tour of Borneo when a very heavy rock fell on him. Tragically we have not yet been able to remove the rock. Graham will contact you as soon as possible, we estimate 2-4 weeks." would have been better than silence. The guy dropped the ball, and I'm not so sure I'd come to his aide with my company info in my profile...unless I did so with the full scoop. |
   
Blue (Blue)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue
Post Number: 1521 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 12:50 pm: |
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unfortunately, using a prepaid cell phone from the corner Circle K as "the business line" indicates that Graham Herbert's "adventure trex" business isn't a professionally staffed outfit. If a rock were to fall on Mr. Herbert in Borneo, he'll probaby be there for a while. John Gadd, you might want to think twice about the responsibility you assign to your "asset" if he is indeed running scams on the side. Not being critical of you at all, just reminding you that when the shit hits the fan, you don't want to be nearby. |
   
Pugsly (Pugsly)
Senior Member Username: Pugsly
Post Number: 359 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 12:59 pm: |
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Hmm, Roverdudes attitude towards customer service would certainly make me wary of LR Anaheim Hills as well. I appreciate it when other LR owners post cautionary tales of vendors they have had issues with, so that I can learn from their experiences and send my $$ elsewhere. Also pretty suspicious that everything on the adventuretrex site disappeared soon after this posting.... someone on the up-and-up would have at least posted some quick explanation instead of wiping everything off the site, IMHO. Appreciate the post, Ted! |
   
John Gadd (Roverdude)
Member Username: Roverdude
Post Number: 55 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 01:01 pm: |
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Ho, You know how to get ahold of him. If this is so important to you call him yourself. |
   
Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Senior Member Username: Pmatusov
Post Number: 1460 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 01:12 pm: |
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John, he didn't say anything about the other side to the story, you did. |
   
James M. Reed (Utahdog2003)
Member Username: Utahdog2003
Post Number: 89 Registered: 03-2004
| Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 02:23 pm: |
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so come clean already! ;) |
   
Blue (Blue)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue
Post Number: 1523 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 02:33 pm: |
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It was important enough for you yourself to post in his defense... I tried calling Graham and got his voice mail saying "It is March 2004, please leave a message...." I left my name & number on Monday but haven't heard back. |
   
Spencer Marks (Sbm)
Member Username: Sbm
Post Number: 42 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 03:00 pm: |
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Conor & Garrett, I too had issues w/ John Miller. I bought a CDL shifter linkage from a DI from him. It took him awhile, but he sent me just the shifter w/ no linkage. I called him and said I got the shifter, but how the hell am I going to engage the CDL when I am missing that part of the linkage? About 4 weeks later, about 15 phone calls and 5 pictures (describing the part I needed) later, he found the linkage and sent it. Reminded me of David C. when I read it that post from weeks ago. I learned my lesson... |
   
Rupert J (Tehamarx)
Member Username: Tehamarx
Post Number: 135 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 03:08 pm: |
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Looks like I have to jump in and defend John Gadd's perceived lack of customer service. The following is the background on why I think John Gadd gave me EXCELLENT customer service on my purchase of a 03 Disco. I have use of Ford's A plan on vehicle purchases. I had ordered a SPECIFIC Disco from a dealer closer to me. I was willing to wait 6 months for the build from Solihull. I called the salesguide severaltimes to confirm my order, which he did. When the vehicle arrived, it was the WRONG model! They did not offer to search for a model that I wanted, but had the attitude "take it or leave it". I was VERY angry and believe me I called LRNA and complained. I happened to see John Gadd's name mentioned in a positive manner in the SCLR board and decided to call him to see if he could help me in purchasing what I wanted. ( I did not think he could find what I needed, but I took a chance.) He called me back within 24 hrs and found my vehicle in San Luis Obispo, offered to drive to LRAH to avoid shipping charges. I said yes b/c if the vehicle had any "bugs", I figured it still belonged to LR and they would fix it. My son & I flew down from Sacramento to OC, where John picked us up and took us to the dealership. We completed the deal and drove back to Red Bluff. John did NOT have to honor the "A" plan nor offer to drive the vehicle a 100 miles nor pick us up at the airport. I still consider this EXCELLENT service on his part. BTW, I still refuse to have any dealings with the original dealer's sales dept. BUT have found their service dept to be excellent. Which goes to show that in every business there are strong points and weak points. As for adventuretrex, I have no idea about that issue. Thank you, Rupert Jung |
   
Blue (Blue)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue
Post Number: 1526 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 03:37 pm: |
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LOL, who said anything about "John Gadd's perceived lack of customer service"? |
   
gp (Garrett)
Senior Member Username: Garrett
Post Number: 2472 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 03:41 pm: |
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waddya mean there roberto. the used motor was not my choice. warranty company makes the final decision. once again in the words of the wise Bill Gill....."kiss my ass." would love to have had a new motor, but of course they were not going to go for that. oh well. i will suffer with my leaky motor. that is the next project. oil is EVERYWHERE. hard to find out where it is coming from.
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Ho Chung (Thediscoho)
Moderator Username: Thediscoho
Post Number: 758 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 03:51 pm: |
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perhaps we should wait to hear john miller's side of the story? Ho Chung
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John Gadd (Roverdude)
Member Username: Roverdude
Post Number: 56 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 04:30 pm: |
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Blue you must have missed this ... "Hmm, Roverdude's attitude towards customer service would certainly make me wary of LR Anaheim Hills as well." |
   
Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor
Post Number: 1799 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 05:49 pm: |
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garrett, truck not doing well, should have dished out the remaining $ so you don't have to do it twice. i guess when you have a lot full of cars to choose from it's not an issue.  |
   
Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Senior Member Username: Pmatusov
Post Number: 1463 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 05:58 pm: |
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wrong guess, Rob. |
   
Blue (Blue)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue
Post Number: 1527 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 06:14 pm: |
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oh, I didn't realize you were the roverdude |
   
Trey Burns (T_burns)
Member Username: T_burns
Post Number: 49 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 10:32 pm: |
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Ok I'm not trying to get in the middle of things and I do appreciate learning of bad dealings. However, I got a LT230Q transer box from John Miller in North Carolina and I had EXCELLENT service from him. Not only was he patient with me, he informed me of info. that I needed to know on the part, he is friendly to work with, and he is an HONEST man. On top of all that, compared to what others wanted to sale me the part for I got a good deal from John. Just from some of the stories he has told me of dealings he has had with others - I know I can count on him. As he has done with others, he too imformed me, that if I had any major problems with the t-case not working right that I could send it back with no problems. I highly recommend using John Miller for dealings and have had nothing but positive response from him. Again, I am not trying to get in the middle of misunderstandings but I do feel the need to stand by someone that has done nothing but good by me and I am sure of others as well.
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Conor Furr (Evergreen)
New Member Username: Evergreen
Post Number: 10 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 10:53 pm: |
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i guess i can post a follow up of my experience. i did recieve a response from john miller today with a tracking number, and everything seems to be in order. Conor |
   
Ted Moyer (Tedmoyer)
Member Username: Tedmoyer
Post Number: 41 Registered: 07-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 11:10 pm: |
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In the spirit of full disclosure, I phoned Graham today at his place of employment to inform him that I still had not rec'd the check which he assured me was in the mail on Monday - He agreed to overnight a check if I still haven't rec'd his by tomorrow. For some reason, I believe him. As promised, I will post to this board once I have my money. cheers, Ted |
   
S.C.Young (Youngsc)
Member Username: Youngsc
Post Number: 83 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 01:51 am: |
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My only dealings with Graham were very positive at MAR a couple years back. He gave my kid a very nice brass Land Rover keychain that was worth about $30. I asked about a specific Rover dog collar I wanted and he said he'd have to look for it and "get back to me" which is usually salesman talk for "yeah, blow me." He came and found me after he spent an hour digging through his stuff and the gave it to me cheaper than I've ever seen one. I think he's a well intentioned kinda guy, but that's no consolation when he's holding your $.
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Felix Gumbiner (Felixthecat)
Member Username: Felixthecat
Post Number: 142 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 02:34 am: |
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I nearly bought a D1 headlight from this "John Miller" fellow. I was gonna send the money order tomorrow, then I read this thread. I won't pass any judgements on his character or integrity, but it seems when all you have is an AOL email address and a PO Box...and then people post horror stories on Dweb... When money's involved in anonymous transactions, I feel a vendor should have nothing less than a stellar reputation. |
   
Pugsly (Pugsly)
Senior Member Username: Pugsly
Post Number: 361 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 03:28 am: |
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Interesting email from Roverdude:
quote: Pugsly, You have absolutely NO PLACE in questioning anything about me. You don't know me nor have conducted any business with me. Because I come to the defense of a colleage you would actually question how I do business. I challange you to contact some of my customers like Craig Kobyashi or a fellow member of LRNC, Rupert Jung, regarding my customer service. It's so easy to post a negative opinion on a website board. But understand this, you have questioned my livelyhood. Until an apology is made, I take offense to your comment! I'm sure my companies owner would not like to see this either.
Guess I struck a nerve? What he says is true, I've never conducted business with him, but I do kinda believe that potential customers have the right to question potential vendors, and one of the ways we can assess a potential vendor is by seeing who they hang with. That's why I tend to check with BBB and state licensing boards before I hire contractors, for example. If you vouch for another business, you are tying your rep to theirs, plain and simple.
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Patrick Macomber (Patrick1)
New Member Username: Patrick1
Post Number: 1 Registered: 04-2004
| Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 07:33 am: |
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My experience with Graham I purchased a Land Rover Shirt from him at MAR a couple of years ago. I tried it on later in camp, it was too small and I returned it to him on Sunday. He didn't have a larger size and he agreed to send me one when he got back home. I didn't hear from him and began emails. Still nothing. Since I paid by MC, I disputed the charge and the money was returned. I never heard from him. My .02, stay clear and call an attorney. |
   
Randy Maynard (Rans)
Senior Member Username: Rans
Post Number: 821 Registered: 08-2002
| Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 08:25 am: |
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Hmmm....and Garrett is going to Uwharrie in NC next weekend.....hmmm |
   
sam (Dent)
Member Username: Dent
Post Number: 68 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 09:20 am: |
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I'm still waiting to hear the other side of the story... you going to tell us or not Roverdude? |
   
Spencer Marks (Sbm)
Member Username: Sbm
Post Number: 43 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 10:32 am: |
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It is important to note that I did receive what I paid for, but with all of the labor involved on my part to get it, one begins to wonder if it was truly worth it. Maybe Nathan, EE, etc., should start parting out trucks and selling used parts; we could then feel more assured about our purchases. |
   
Blue (Blue)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue
Post Number: 1528 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 12:28 pm: |
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LOL...welcome to the junkyard business... |
   
Ho Chung (Thediscoho)
Moderator Username: Thediscoho
Post Number: 761 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 12:50 pm: |
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EE junkyard? fuck that. LOL Ho Chung
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Blue (Blue)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue
Post Number: 1529 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 01:16 pm: |
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Ho, I need a plastic sunvisor clip for a 1996 Disco. Let me know what you're asking. Thanks. |
   
Blue (Blue)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue
Post Number: 1530 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 01:18 pm: |
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Oh, I forgot...I also need a clock bulb, do you have one of those? If it burns out in a short amount of time can I have a refund? Thanks. |
   
Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Senior Member Username: Pmatusov
Post Number: 1466 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 01:35 pm: |
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quote:Ho, I need a plastic sunvisor clip for a 1996 Disco
Blue, that was my request! |
   
Craig Kobayashi (Koby)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Koby
Post Number: 1246 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 01:39 pm: |
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You didn't post "You've got mail" before Blue did. Sorry, you're out of luck Peter. |
   
Ho Chung (Thediscoho)
Moderator Username: Thediscoho
Post Number: 762 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 01:47 pm: |
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you guys got the wrong guy here. contact mister cazaveros. Ho Chung
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Blue (Blue)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue
Post Number: 1532 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 02:30 pm: |
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That's some poor customer service there, Ho. You owe me an apology. |
   
Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Senior Member Username: Pmatusov
Post Number: 1468 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 02:44 pm: |
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there's got to be the other side to the story... Has to be. Craig - you know what's the worst in a broken-off clip? Having to pull the stump out. |
   
Craig Kobayashi (Koby)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Koby
Post Number: 1247 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 02:53 pm: |
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LOL, what? |
   
Pugsly (Pugsly)
Senior Member Username: Pugsly
Post Number: 367 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 03:11 pm: |
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Hey Craig - I hear from Roverdude that you can vouch for him vouching for Graham and that Ted, Patrick, et al are out of line to be complaining about Graham? |
   
Ron L (Ronl)
Senior Member Username: Ronl
Post Number: 292 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 04:28 pm: |
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I purchased floor mats from Graham on eBay. No problems with that transaction. Purchased some CT gear from him, he shorted me on one item. Sent me a refund check. When the item was in stock he shipped it out without contacting me. After I got the goods he called and asked me for payment.
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Craig Kobayashi (Koby)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Koby
Post Number: 1248 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 04:29 pm: |
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John Miller (Jammer)
New Member Username: Jammer
Post Number: 17 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 09:22 pm: |
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Hello There, This is John Miller, I would like to get somthing out in the open inso far as Mr. Garrett, I sold him a 4.0 RR engine for $1500.00 plus freight. I told him to install new valve cover gaskets and a rear main seal I do not believe he replaced them. This is standard to do when you remove and install an engine. I have sold three or four RR motors and advised every one of them to replace the rear seal and valve cover gaskets.I would be happy to foward their email addresses to confirm . I got two emails from Mr. Garrett about his leaky motor which the rear main seal is leaking along with valve cover gaskets.. I thought I answered him. No phone calls from him. I will admit I have had some problems sending and recieving emails lately. But I always and I mean always return phone calls. I was notified by a customer in Texas about this site having a negative post from Mr. Garrett about me. In light of all of this . I will try to help Mr. Garrett if it is possible to do so. I emailed him yesterday and today along with my phone #'s. I have had no response from him. I will be happy to try to help him with his issues. But I belive the motor runs fine other than leaking. I even performed a compression test on it when I had it. I do sell parts for range rovers and disco's. I try to give good deals and be fair with people I deal with. Hopefully some past people I have dealt with will see this and post their experiences dealing with me. Oh, and Spencer Marks I am really sorry I did not ship all of your parts at once. They were misplaced and later sent to you as I was moving at the time and things got a little disorganized. I sent you a RR shop manual cd for the inconvience. I suppose that was still unsatisfactory for you. In closing I presently plan to be at Uwharrie. Maybe some of you fellows will be there. Just a dumb ol country boy. John Miller Tidewater Holding Corp 201 Beval Rd. Wilmington,NC 28412 910.538.2102 S 910.763.3335 F 910.784.9459 |
   
Brian Leonard (Brian425)
Member Username: Brian425
Post Number: 53 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 09:35 pm: |
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I bought 4 rims for my D1 from John Miller. He was great to deal with. I have nothing but good things to say about him. I need another rim becuase a fellow D1 owner "borrowed" my spare during the night. John is the only guy I thought of when it came to getting another rim. Call him and talk to him. He's a good guy. I think he parts out Rovers part time. Talk to him, he'll take care of you. |