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Phillip Perkinson (Rover4x4)
Senior Member Username: Rover4x4
Post Number: 403 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 05:05 pm: |
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I was talking to a guy that lived in Africa for a few years and spent some time with the Series Rovers. He was told me about how he was trying to teach the locals about the brakes on them, quite an interesting story. At any rate he told me that some series Rovers had stainless steel engine blocks that were made by Rolls Royce. FWIW |
   
Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie
Post Number: 2478 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 07:27 pm: |
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Rolls Royce made a lot of engines, especially circa WWII.... there were some in some earlier Series I Rovers supposedly, but not in large quantities.... I've never seen one stateside, or even conversed w/ someone over the net w/ one either. Don't know about the stainless steel bit to the story, tho'..... FWIW..... -L
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Phillip Perkinson (Rover4x4)
Senior Member Username: Rover4x4
Post Number: 406 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 09:20 pm: |
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I was personally unaware of either. I thought I would post here since it seems to be one of the largest conglomerations of LR enthusists on the WWW. |
   
Max Thomason (Lrmax)
Member Username: Lrmax
Post Number: 238 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 10:39 pm: |
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I think there was a few of them made. One such truck had the RR engine and a 81" wheelbase. Check out one of the major LR mags b/c one of the contributors has an 81" Rolls Royce powered LR. Max T. That doesn't sound right!!! But I wonder if it gives more Hp..... |
   
Alan Greening (Alan_g)
Member Username: Alan_g
Post Number: 49 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 02:57 am: |
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Here's some info, I remembber reading about it once, it had this massive, brass air cleaner. http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/ecars/Mil/LandRover/B40.html |
   
Sandy Grice (Apg)
New Member Username: Apg
Post Number: 25 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 11:17 am: |
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If there was a stainless block Rolls engine, it didn't come from Solihull that way. All Rover engines were cast iron...until Rover purchased the rights to the GM/Buick 215 cid aluminium block engine in 1966. And an 81" wheelbase wasn't a factory standard either. Okay...trivia test: Which of the following wheelbases was *never* a factory-built length: 80", 86, 88, 90, 100, 101, 109, 110, 130? |
   
Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor
Post Number: 837 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 11:21 am: |
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90 !!! and i dont even own defender or a series |
   
Max Thomason (Lrmax)
Member Username: Lrmax
Post Number: 239 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 12:08 pm: |
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90!! And also the 130 for a while (was 127"). Sandy, the 81" Rolls Royce vehicle I *think* was nicknamed the Pope Mobile (guess what it was used for). As you can deduce, these trucks were basically one or two off trucks and never mass produced. Another Trivia question: When was the LT230 transfer box first used?? Max T. |
   
Ike Goss (Leafsprung)
Member Username: Leafsprung
Post Number: 69 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 01:01 pm: |
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Ok heres the deal: There were thirty three 81 inch series ones made for the british army in late 1949/early 1950 which were fitted with the Rolls Royce B40 engine. At the time the army was using thethe Rolls Royce B40,B60, and B80 engines in much of its fleet and since spares were essentially the same accross the line of engines, the were interested to see how viable the engine would be in the land rover platform. One of these was later converted for use as a parade vehicle which is the one Max is thinking of and owned by one of the staffers in one of the rover mags and it appears there from time to time. Thus 81 inches is a factory wheelbase. Sandy, the 130 was never made, all the rest were made. Rover experimented with the a true 90 inch wheelbase before they settled with a 92.3 inch (I think) wheelbase. Which of these wheelbases was never made: 129, 109.75, 147, 101, 112 |
   
Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie
Post Number: 2480 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 01:56 pm: |
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I'll third that the D130 is a 127" wheelbase (I know, I helped build one... well, at least a little ). I think the D90 is actually a 92.7", but I've seen the 92.3" refernce before.... have yet to bother to confirm it one way or the other. For some reason, I'm thinking that the 101 has a 100" wheelbase, being a Rangie at heart.... -L
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Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor
Post Number: 841 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 04:34 pm: |
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isnt there a rare series one 107"?? thought i read about it in the RN flyer/ the pope mobile was a range rover with this plexi glass all around it http://www.motorcities.com/contents/99LSA174116927.html |
   
Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie
Post Number: 2481 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 05:26 pm: |
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107" isn't *that* rare.... the station wagon is what I (and a whole bunch of other folks) like to call the "Frankenrover" look. I mean, you're not gonna see many of 'em, but it's not an obscurity. The pickup version's kinda cool, though. There've been lots of pope-mobiles.... Series-ish ones, Rangie-ish ones, etc. FWIW... -L
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Sandy Grice (Apg)
New Member Username: Apg
Post Number: 27 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 12:22 pm: |
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Ike's got it...the 90 and 130 were "rounded" numbers, as the actual wheelbase was different. As to the 147...I don't think that it is a wheelbase from the factory, rather one that is 'stretched' subsequently, though 147s are being manufactured in South Africa. |
   
Ron Brown (Ron)
Senior Member Username: Ron
Post Number: 469 Registered: 04-2001
| Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 10:14 pm: |
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The 129 was made in the bonnetted control and the dutch 130. 109.75 I am not sure about 101 was the 101 112, maybe an extended wheelbase disco/rrc like an ambulance? LT230 first appeared behind the TF727 in 83 auto range rovers and in 1983 four banger 110s Ron |
   
Javier Velador (Jvelador)
Member Username: Jvelador
Post Number: 154 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 03:15 pm: |
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Leslie, If I'm not mistaken, the 101 was in fact 101" and it started life as a Series IIA with the cab over the front axel. Most parts came from Series IIA and subsequently Series III model, not the Range Rover. Whether they made a 101 from Range Rover running gear, I've not read. The wheelbase for the Discovery ambulances was 116" Check out this very original Series I 107" station wagon. It belongs to Randy Rose in Pasadena Damn, gotta love all those LR mags I've accumulated Javier |
   
Ike Goss (Leafsprung)
Member Username: Leafsprung
Post Number: 70 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 07:49 pm: |
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Javier, The SIIA and SIIB FC is based on a SIIA, the 101 is based on a Range rover drivetrain (3.5 v8, LT95 etc) That 107 is one Randy saw, not one he owns. Ok Here goes: 101-101 129-129 inch SII pickup 109.75 - true wheelbase of SIIB FC 147 - South African game trucks made in SA plant 112 - made up (though something MIGHT have been 112) |
   
Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie
Post Number: 2483 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 07:52 pm: |
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Javier, I *think* you're referring to the FC Series IIA/B from the 60's, the FC Land Rover that preceded the FC 101, which didn't come about until the mid-70's (a good bit after the SIII had replaced the SIIa).... While we're on it, my Series "wish list": a '48 pre/early production a ~'49 Tickford a ~'67 Pink Panther a ~'6(?) 109" APGP (the amphibious one) I dunno what I'd do with 'em all if I had 'em, it's not like I could charge admission to a Rover museum.... I'd just love to have 'em to try to keep up after 'em.... -L
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Javier Velador (Jvelador)
Member Username: Jvelador
Post Number: 155 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 04:19 pm: |
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Ike & Leslie, You're both right, I was thinking of the FC, not the 101FC. That 107 does belong to Randy Rose, I was the one that saw it on the street, knocked on several doors, obtained permission to take pics and posted it on that site :P In fact, I told Randy to keep me in mind if he ever decides to sell it. I love that thing... Cheers! |