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Phillip Perkinson (Rover4x4)
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Post Number: 403
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 05:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I was talking to a guy that lived in Africa for a few years and spent some time with the Series Rovers. He was told me about how he was trying to teach the locals about the brakes on them, quite an interesting story. At any rate he told me that some series Rovers had stainless steel engine blocks that were made by Rolls Royce. FWIW
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
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Post Number: 2478
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Rolls Royce made a lot of engines, especially circa WWII.... there were some in some earlier Series I Rovers supposedly, but not in large quantities.... I've never seen one stateside, or even conversed w/ someone over the net w/ one either. Don't know about the stainless steel bit to the story, tho'.....

FWIW.....


-L


 

Phillip Perkinson (Rover4x4)
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Post Number: 406
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 09:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I was personally unaware of either. I thought I would post here since it seems to be one of the largest conglomerations of LR enthusists on the WWW.
 

Max Thomason (Lrmax)
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Post Number: 238
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I think there was a few of them made. One such truck had the RR engine and a 81" wheelbase. Check out one of the major LR mags b/c one of the contributors has an 81" Rolls Royce powered LR.

Max T.
That doesn't sound right!!! But I wonder if it gives more Hp.....
 

Alan Greening (Alan_g)
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Post Number: 49
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 02:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Here's some info, I remembber reading about it once, it had this massive, brass air cleaner.

http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/ecars/Mil/LandRover/B40.html
 

Sandy Grice (Apg)
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Post Number: 25
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

If there was a stainless block Rolls engine, it didn't come from Solihull that way. All Rover engines were cast iron...until Rover purchased the rights to the GM/Buick 215 cid aluminium block engine in 1966.

And an 81" wheelbase wasn't a factory standard either.

Okay...trivia test: Which of the following wheelbases was *never* a factory-built length:

80", 86, 88, 90, 100, 101, 109, 110, 130?
 

Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
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Post Number: 837
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

90 !!!

and i dont even own defender or a series
 

Max Thomason (Lrmax)
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Post Number: 239
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

90!! And also the 130 for a while (was 127").

Sandy, the 81" Rolls Royce vehicle I *think* was nicknamed the Pope Mobile (guess what it was used for). As you can deduce, these trucks were basically one or two off trucks and never mass produced.

Another Trivia question: When was the LT230 transfer box first used??

Max T.
 

Ike Goss (Leafsprung)
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Post Number: 69
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ok heres the deal:

There were thirty three 81 inch series ones made for the british army in late 1949/early 1950 which were fitted with the Rolls Royce B40 engine. At the time the army was using thethe Rolls Royce B40,B60, and B80 engines in much of its fleet and since spares were essentially the same accross the line of engines, the were interested to see how viable the engine would be in the land rover platform. One of these was later converted for use as a parade vehicle which is the one Max is thinking of and owned by one of the staffers in one of the rover mags and it appears there from time to time. Thus 81 inches is a factory wheelbase.

Sandy, the 130 was never made, all the rest were made. Rover experimented with the a true 90 inch wheelbase before they settled with a 92.3 inch (I think) wheelbase. Which of these wheelbases was never made:

129, 109.75, 147, 101, 112
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
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Post Number: 2480
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I'll third that the D130 is a 127" wheelbase (I know, I helped build one... well, at least a little :-)).

I think the D90 is actually a 92.7", but I've seen the 92.3" refernce before.... have yet to bother to confirm it one way or the other.

For some reason, I'm thinking that the 101 has a 100" wheelbase, being a Rangie at heart....

-L

 

Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
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Post Number: 841
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

isnt there a rare series one 107"??

thought i read about it in the RN flyer/


the pope mobile was a range rover with this plexi glass all around it
http://www.motorcities.com/contents/99LSA174116927.html
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
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Post Number: 2481
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

107" isn't *that* rare.... the station wagon is what I (and a whole bunch of other folks) like to call the "Frankenrover" look. I mean, you're not gonna see many of 'em, but it's not an obscurity. The pickup version's kinda cool, though.

There've been lots of pope-mobiles.... Series-ish ones, Rangie-ish ones, etc.


FWIW...

-L
 

Sandy Grice (Apg)
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Post Number: 27
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ike's got it...the 90 and 130 were "rounded" numbers, as the actual wheelbase was different.

As to the 147...I don't think that it is a wheelbase from the factory, rather one that is 'stretched' subsequently, though 147s are being manufactured in South Africa.
 

Ron Brown (Ron)
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Post Number: 469
Registered: 04-2001
Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The 129 was made in the bonnetted control and the dutch 130.

109.75 I am not sure about

101 was the 101

112, maybe an extended wheelbase disco/rrc like an ambulance?


LT230 first appeared behind the TF727 in 83 auto range rovers and in 1983 four banger 110s

Ron
 

Javier Velador (Jvelador)
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Post Number: 154
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Leslie,

If I'm not mistaken, the 101 was in fact 101" and it started life as a Series IIA with the cab over the front axel. Most parts came from Series IIA and subsequently Series III model, not the Range Rover. Whether they made a 101 from Range Rover running gear, I've not read.

The wheelbase for the Discovery ambulances was 116"

Check out this very original Series I 107" station wagon. It belongs to Randy Rose in Pasadena

Damn, gotta love all those LR mags I've accumulated :-)

Javier
 

Ike Goss (Leafsprung)
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Post Number: 70
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Javier,
The SIIA and SIIB FC is based on a SIIA, the 101 is based on a Range rover drivetrain (3.5 v8, LT95 etc) That 107 is one Randy saw, not one he owns. Ok Here goes:
101-101
129-129 inch SII pickup
109.75 - true wheelbase of SIIB FC
147 - South African game trucks made in SA plant
112 - made up (though something MIGHT have been 112)
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
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Post Number: 2483
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Javier,

I *think* you're referring to the FC Series IIA/B from the 60's, the FC Land Rover that preceded the FC 101, which didn't come about until the mid-70's (a good bit after the SIII had replaced the SIIa)....

While we're on it, my Series "wish list":

a '48 pre/early production
a ~'49 Tickford
a ~'67 Pink Panther
a ~'6(?) 109" APGP (the amphibious one)

I dunno what I'd do with 'em all if I had 'em, it's not like I could charge admission to a Rover museum.... I'd just love to have 'em to try to keep up after 'em....


-L


 

Javier Velador (Jvelador)
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Post Number: 155
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ike & Leslie,

You're both right, I was thinking of the FC, not the 101FC. That 107 does belong to Randy Rose, I was the one that saw it on the street, knocked on several doors, obtained permission to take pics and posted it on that site :P

In fact, I told Randy to keep me in mind if he ever decides to sell it. I love that thing...

Cheers!

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