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Paul Kennington (P_kennington)
New Member Username: P_kennington
Post Number: 17 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Monday, October 06, 2003 - 08:09 pm: |
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Hi Guys, a buddy of mine wants to import an old 109" station wagon from the UK. Before he does this, he wants to know shipping costs. How much does one weigh? What is the overall length? Height? Width? How old does it have to be to circumvent emission/import regs? Would he be better to get a 110? Thanks, Paul. |
   
Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie
Post Number: 2543 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Monday, October 06, 2003 - 10:27 pm: |
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Approximate weight empty is just under 2 tons (ie, a bit under 4,000 pounds). External length on a 109" wheelbase is 175" or so. Height, around 81", 82". Width on a Series is 66". Has to be at least 25-years-old to be legally importable. Thus, the newest that can currently be brought in is a 1978 model. The 110 made its debut in in 1983, so, he'd have to wait a couple more years before he could legally bring another over. Shipping options: either roro it onto a deck of a ship at somewhere around ~$1000 by the time all is said and done, or, put it into a shipping container and send that over, at around ~$2000, again give or take, by the time all the other fees, costs, etc., are covered. With that all said.... A lot of 110s have already been brought over, mostly prior to the tightening down of gray-market regulations. Thus, some are available, aside from the 500 D110 that were sold by Rover in '93. And, some people have taken a D90, did a frame & rear-tub swap, and thus legally made a 110. And, some people have taken parts, built a 110 from scratch (which, may or may not be legal, depending on the state in which it is initially registered). Hope that helps.... -L
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Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie
Post Number: 2544 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Monday, October 06, 2003 - 10:31 pm: |
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PS: And, unless he flies over and buys the vehicle, then flies back after shipping, he won't have seen the vehicle until its here. My suggestion is to shop stateside where he can see it in person before he buys. There are 109's here, he can find one that he could get home for less money... instead of trying to buy a cheaper one in the UK and shipping it over, he could instead put the extra shipping funds into buying a nicer Rover to begin with.... IMHO, FWIW.... -L
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Paul Kennington (P_kennington)
New Member Username: P_kennington
Post Number: 18 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 09:10 am: |
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Leslie, thanks for all the info! I'm actually from England myself- and thus still have contacts over there who could look at a vehicle and see if it's a good deal. There are plenty of LHD models over there, and thus they're cheaper. Where would he find one over here? (In the Pacific Northwest if possible) I seem to remember the engines as being a 2.4- is that correct? Thanks again, Paul. |
   
Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie
Post Number: 2548 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 09:39 am: |
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Some have a 2.6L engine as opposed to the usual 2.25L. Now, here's the trick: The NADA 2.6 is not the same as the Euro 2.6, and parts don't necessarily cross over... The 2.6 can be a smoother engine, but, keeping it tip-top is a bit more problematic... the 2.25 is so much cheaper and easier to keep chugging along. A lot of folks like the novelty of the RHD, which is one attraction for sourcing Rovers from the UK. However, you're right, the LHD ones are even cheaper there. Even though these vehicles were built either way, it quickly becomes apparent that were meant to be RHD instead of LHD (ie, getting to the master cylinder under the wing, hi-lo lever location, etc.) If you're constrained to the NW, I would contact Ray Woods. http://www.wiseowlparts.com/ There's another vendor up there, but, all I have heard about him is that he's vastly overpriced, so, I won't suggest there. Ray should be able to help you locate something in your neck of the woods. My favorite vendor is my friend David at http://www.thatchedroofgarage.com here in upper East Tennessee. He has a few consignment vehicles in at the moment, a few of his own, too, and can help you find what your friend might want. (Actually, he's just rec'd a 109 5-door, and the price is good on it, too.... it's not a show-winner, but it's solid.) Best o' luck..... -L
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Sean Grauer (Spgrauer)
New Member Username: Spgrauer
Post Number: 6 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 04:49 pm: |
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As for importing one and emission/import regs check out this web site, http://www.eastcoastrover.com/imports.html Good luck Sean |
   
Paul von Klosst-Dohna (Pvkd)
New Member Username: Pvkd
Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, October 10, 2003 - 09:39 am: |
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In 2000 I imported a 109 from the UK to Long Beach. I containered the vehicle because I had parts and some paintings in the back of the vehicle and thus did not want any theft issues. Because of the contents I had to pay for what was in effect two clearances. All told including import tax and a local car transporter service to my door about 50 miles form the port was just under $2000. You ca get it for less if you use a Roll-On-Roll-Off (maybe $1200-1400) but again I include inland transportation, taxes and two clearances (vehicle + contents).
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Jaime (Blueboy)
Senior Member Username: Blueboy
Post Number: 766 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Friday, October 10, 2003 - 03:28 pm: |
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as Leslie mentioned, there are 109s to be found in US. ECR actually has 2 for sale. one is LHD and one is RHD. http://www.eastcoastrover.com/ecrforsale.html Jaime |
   
Ron Brown (Ron)
Senior Member Username: Ron
Post Number: 497 Registered: 04-2001
| Posted on Friday, October 10, 2003 - 05:01 pm: |
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A good friend of mine has his RHD 109 for sale. Unlike the US and UK trucks it is rust free. It also has a wicked strong nissan diesel in it. www.drivenxdiscovery.com for details on the truck. Ron |
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