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     Alex Scolnik (Alex_scolnik) New Member Username: Alex_scolnik Post Number: 22 Registered: 09-2003 |
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2451998767&categor y=6296 Makes me not feel so bad about the money I'll be sinking into mine! | ||
| eric w siepmann (Cdn001) Member Username: Cdn001 Post Number: 50 Registered: 12-2003 |
That truck finally sold huh? It has been on Ebay on and off for several years now. One of the few ones that have actually been properly restored. As far as a good day, probably not. He lost more than he got for it. | ||
| Thomas Dahbura (U352) Member Username: U352 Post Number: 218 Registered: 10-2002 |
Pretty sweet ride isn't it! | ||
| eric w siepmann (Cdn001) Member Username: Cdn001 Post Number: 51 Registered: 12-2003 |
Hell Yes! He did a great job with it! | ||
| Alex Scolnik (Alex_scolnik) New Member Username: Alex_scolnik Post Number: 23 Registered: 09-2003 |
All right Eric, I gotta ask...how much do you think he had in it? It really does look amazing. | ||
| eric w siepmann (Cdn001) Member Username: Cdn001 Post Number: 53 Registered: 12-2003 |
A restoration like that? Close to 40k most likely. Call EastCoastRover and ask them to ball park a full restoration. I did when I first surfed the ECR site. 45 tall was their price about 3 years ago. or... Grab a RoversNorth catalog and start adding up all the parts. Gets expensive really quick when you start to actually restore a vehicle and not refurbish it. Very rare to see a quality vehicle like that go on the market. That's one lucky owner. EwS | ||
| eric johnson (Eric2) Member Username: Eric2 Post Number: 213 Registered: 05-2003 |
My guess is around 15K. He didn't have to fiddle with the engine or gearbox - (Hmmmm).Depends if he painted it or not. Thats about a 5K paint job. My problem is the color. He used an '84 color, not an original Series 2A color. I thought it was Mexican Brown at first or a bad lighting picture of Sand, but no! Wonder what the original color was? Jeez. He coulda' sold it much sooner if it was a decent colour, IMO. | ||
| eric w siepmann (Cdn001) Member Username: Cdn001 Post Number: 55 Registered: 12-2003 |
Yeah, I agree. It would have been nice in a poppy red.... EwS | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2833 Registered: 02-2002 |
Okay, I agree, that wouldn't have been my pick of color, either. But, he did stick with a Rover color. My SIII is marine blue. I like it, but.... it's got to be THE most common color out there.... I think half of the Series I've seen are marine blue. I'm just tired of it. Pastel green is okay, but not what I want. Limestone is the same way. Poppy red, I really like, but there's a half-dozen of 'em in Roanoke, and more in Boone... and, I've yet to see a red that hasn't partially oxidized. The grays are okay, but again, not what I want. Bronze green in tempting. I like green. British Racing Green - not the later Rover version, but the old actual racing colors - might work. I had pretty much decided on Cameron green, because it's close to a BRG, it's an actual Rover color from the same period, and I've not seen another in that color. But, I've not seen that color in person, so I'm hesitant. I started leaning towards Conniston green for my Series, because a) I like it, b) it is a Rover color (albeit a later color), c) the first Rover I *really* fell in love with was a Conniston Defender. But again, I'm hesitant, because it's not a period color. So, I'm not sure what I'm gonna end up going with.... I might not decide for sure 'til I'm at the paint counter.... lol.... -L | ||
| Alex Scolnik (Alex_scolnik) New Member Username: Alex_scolnik Post Number: 24 Registered: 09-2003 |
Leslie, that's really funny, because I just sent you an e-mail about painting and then saw your post. I think I want Bronze Green, but what's the difference between Series Bronze Green and the Defenders Coniston Green? In the photos, it looks like Coniston is a little lighter and yellower... | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2835 Registered: 02-2002 |
Yep, conniston is a yellowish green. Cameron is a bluish green. Bronze is a blackish green. Thing about bronze is, it darkens as it ages. Well, correction: in older vintage paints, as the paint ages, it would darken. So, a really old bronze green truck with its original paint is going to be a really dark color by now. As it fades, it kind of looks drab, but it's really much richer than olive drab when new. Today's paints are much more durable, and don't age the way older paints do. I saw a Series that had a fresh coat of bronze green, and it took me a minute to figure out that it was bronze, it was just so much lighter and brighter than I'm used to thinking of bronze being.... that's part of the reason why I was even considering bronze.... for this particular Series of mine, I didn't want it to look too military, and bronze usually will look military regardless of whether it was a military vehicle or not. That's why I was thinking of cameron or conniston.... once I saw the fresh bronze, I started considering it too, but, I'm still hesitant with it, too...... Like I said, I'll walk into the paintshop one day soon and go eeny-meeny-miney-moe and pick one.... -L | ||
| eric w siepmann (Cdn001) Member Username: Cdn001 Post Number: 57 Registered: 12-2003 |
Leslie, 1. Bronze. I love the look of it 2. Sand. Very cool color for a rover. 3. Alpine White. Stays clean Check out paintchip.com. They list all the colors offered from LRNA since inception and by year. Could offer up some new choices. I think the Conniston will detract from your series truck. It will make it look as if you were trying to get that 90 look with a series truck. I love that color, but not on a series. I think that if you get any series paint and have the trim re-galvanized to boot, it will look stunnning. Just concentrate on the details like the trim and correct wheel paint and the whole package stnds out so much better than the rovers who cheaped out and painted over the trim peices, wheels, ect. Oh, I think I am going to get a 71 2a from out east. EwS | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2838 Registered: 02-2002 |
I've already had the galvanized bits re-galvanized: cappings, windscreen, pie-plate spare holder, the rails under the seatbox to the bulkhead, etc. Plus, I've sent about any steel brackets off to the galvanizers, too... spring plates, the steering brace, etc.... I wish I had sent the engine mounts, but I needed them to go right under then engine when it moved over.... I might scrounge up a set to galvanize then swap 'em... the breakfast and bulkhead are going to be galvanized, too. If it's steel I wanted it galvanized. Now, axle tubes and leaf-springs (though I did joke with David about galvanizing those, too  ), the steel support strips under the rear tub, etc.... there are plenty of bits that it just was going to be so much more work to have galvanized than it was worth going through the trouble to get off to send. Plus, a lot of things wouldn't survive galvanizing, so, I'm going to use Disco steel wheels for my Series, put I'm going to paint the limestone (much to Ho's chagrin ). They're the strongest, best-looking steel wheels that LR has... The things is, if I was "restoring" it, it would have to go back to marine blue. But, a) this isn't a restoration, it's a refurbishment (albeit a (hopefully) decent one). b) it's a SIII, not a IIa.... I would stick with Series wheels and keep it more original if it was a IIa. With a III, I'm more willing to stray a bit in order to improve certain bits. Disco steelies, parabolic springs, etc. Alpine: years ago I made a joke that whenever I saw a white Land Rover, I thought it was lost from a UN convoy. Since that time, I've actually started to realize that that's the way I think of them... I'm just not fond of white Rovers unless they're part of an organization out doing their job, then they fit the part. Sand is not quite in that category, but it's close. I think sand would be more appropriate if I lived in Arizona.... it just feels out-of-place in southwestern Virginia / eastern Tennessee. A lighter bronze is a possiblity. Might be good. But, I'm still undecided. I wish that paintchip site was working, but the domain comes up for sale, so, I suppose it's gone now.... bummer.... -L | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2839 Registered: 02-2002 |
I've already had the galvanized bits re-galvanized: cappings, windscreen, pie-plate spare holder, the rails under the seatbox to the bulkhead, etc. Plus, I've sent about any steel brackets off to the galvanizers, too... spring plates, the steering brace, etc.... I wish I had sent the engine mounts, but I needed them to go right under then engine when it moved over.... I might scrounge up a set to galvanize then swap 'em... the breakfast and bulkhead are going to be galvanized, too. If it's steel I wanted it galvanized. Now, axle tubes and leaf-springs (though I did joke with David about galvanizing those, too ), the steel support strips under the rear tub, etc.... there are plenty of bits that it just was going to be so much more work to have galvanized than it was worth going through the trouble to get off to send. Plus, a lot of things wouldn't survive galvanizing, so, they obviously shouldn't be... ) I'm going to use Disco steel wheels for my Series, put I'm going to paint the limestone (much to Ho's chagrin ). They're the strongest, best-looking steel wheels that LR has... The things is, if I was "restoring" it, it would have to go back to marine blue. But, a) this isn't a restoration, it's a refurbishment (albeit a (hopefully) decent one). b) it's a SIII, not a IIa.... I would stick with Series wheels and keep it more original if it was a IIa. With a III, I'm more willing to stray a bit in order to improve certain bits. Disco steelies, parabolic springs, etc. Alpine: years ago I made a joke that whenever I saw a white Land Rover, I thought it was lost from a UN convoy. Since that time, I've actually started to realize that that's the way I think of them... I'm just not fond of white Rovers unless they're part of an organization out doing their job, then they fit the part. Sand is not quite in that category, but it's close. I think sand would be more appropriate if I lived in Arizona.... it just feels out-of-place in southwestern Virginia / eastern Tennessee. A lighter bronze is a possiblity. Might be good. But, I'm still undecided. I wish that paintchip site was working, but the domain comes up for sale, so, I suppose it's gone now.... bummer.... A '71 has the steel dash that IIa folks like, but you get the wider headlight cast since they're in the wings. And you still have a wire grill... that's something else I'd be tempted to change, a late IIa grill for my SIII.... -L | ||
| eric w siepmann (Cdn001) Member Username: Cdn001 Post Number: 58 Registered: 12-2003 |
Leslie, Sounds like you're doing a great job. You'd hate my d-90. It is alpine white. I'll ask it if it is awol from the UN. I'm an idiot. It was paint scrath.com here is LR paint for 1999 http://www.paintscratch.com/cgi-bin/makepaint2.cgi | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2840 Registered: 02-2002 |
Oh, don't get me wrong.... in many cases I thing a white Rover is the cat's meow... look at the pic of the 110 at the top of the page in the video banner.... that's a great-looking truck.... (Ya know, thinking about it, it may be stickers: if it has lots of rally-looking stickers, it "can't" look like a UN truck, but if it doesn't, then it looks business-like and is a UN truck.... lol.....) Very cool page... I can't get it to bring up '72 LR colors, lol, but I'll keep twiddling with it, I'll find something that works.... -L | ||
| eric johnson (Eric2) Member Username: Eric2 Post Number: 214 Registered: 05-2003 |
I did Sand on mine, but I'm in Cal. and get to Nevada now and then. A good camo color for the desert. It's a rare color out here. Bronze Green is most common, and on a Series it looks great. JMO. | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2841 Registered: 02-2002 |
Now here's an interesting color name..... My commuter Subaru is "Blue Ridge Pearl". Wouldn't it be neat to had a Land Rover parked next to it that's painted in "Appalachian Green"? With my luck, it'd be a really dated shade, tho', only seen in Vail in 2000 and out-of-vogue since... lol.... Eric, that's exactly the kind of place where sand is perfect.... maybe that's why I'm thinking of greens in this neck of the woods.... -L | ||
| Eric E. Yang (Ericnovember) New Member Username: Ericnovember Post Number: 13 Registered: 11-2003 |
I have to admit, the Poppy Red is a great color for Series III, though I have never seen one in person. As for the Alpine White or whichever derivative you see, all appear to have this good/bad commercial-grade appearance to them. Personally, I'm a fan of white vehicles and sometimes I can't help but feel that my AA Yellow paint (or similar) is just way too outlandish (and no, I didn't select the paint, it came that way). Has anyone ever seen a black Series? (the least functional color out there, though the best looking when clean in my opinion) What frame of costs would I be looking at to restore the original Marine Blue color on my SIII? A relatively good paint job is what I'm wondering about... Thanks, EY. | ||
| Alex Scolnik (Alex_scolnik) New Member Username: Alex_scolnik Post Number: 27 Registered: 09-2003 |
One of the first Series I looked at was a dark red. The paint was really faded and peeling off showing the shiny aluminum underneath. I thought it really looked great. I don't know why I decided to go with Bronze Green. It just seems like the quint essential Land Rover color. Although with all this talk, I'm starting to have second thoughts. I don't know much about the price for painting. From what I've heard it varies significantly depending on where you are. I was also talking to a sales rep at Atlantic British, and he said that not surprisingly, up here in the North where it snows, there are more accidents in the winter. And more accidents in the winter, means the body shops are going to charge more than say in August. Anyway, I got a quote of around $4500 for painting after all the panels were stripped to bare metal from a local shop near me--about 50 miles north of New York City. Alex |
