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Jeff Bays (Jdbays)
New Member Username: Jdbays
Post Number: 25 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 08:34 pm: |
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Where is a good place to get a 3 to 4 inch lift for a 109? I would appreciate any help or suggestions. Messed up with the last post. sorry |
   
Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie
Post Number: 2880 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 10:24 pm: |
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Jeff, What are you trying to achieve with a lift on a Series? Bigger tires? I've seen 255/85R16 on a 109" before.... it didn't have a lift, but it has a considerable amount of trimming / hacking. That's about as big as you're gonna be able to go, I think. It'd be possible to switch to 15" wheels and go with 35" swampers or boggers or something, but.... you're gonna be breaking axles (a Series can break an axle leaving the driveway on stock tires, I don't *really* want to think about trying to drive a Series with bigger tires than that regularly. Anyway.... With a 109", if it's not a military version, you'd be okay to switch it over to military shackles (of course a military would already have them). And, fresh parabolics might nab you an extra inch or so. To get more than that is gonna take a lot more work, and if you're staying below a 255/85 size tire, you don't need more than that. If you're going to a bigger tire than that, then you will seriously need to consider a different drivetrain altogether.... a stock Series isn't suited to that. In which case, you'll probably be converting to coils, which means that you'll be looking at a whole different beast when trying to achieve lift. What's your goal here? Need more info to give a decent answer...... -L
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eric w siepmann (Cdn001)
Member Username: Cdn001
Post Number: 60 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 11:32 pm: |
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Try BCB West Coast. They show a spring over 107. You can almost hear the axles groaning..... EwS http://www.bcboffroad.com/gallery.html |
   
Micky_dee (Micky_dee)
Member Username: Micky_dee
Post Number: 51 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 12:44 am: |
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the easiest way i lifted my series was i got the springs rearched. then i made a set of longer shackles. i think that the shackles were two inches longer. the truck was lifted..... but the next step is to do a spring over. some modification here. so if you want to do it at home in the drive way, then i sugest the shacke lift. i was working at a machine shop when i made the lift so it was cheap. if your springs are still arched then there it is. cheap as possible. and for breaking axles! that is some stupid shit that i never ever understood in the world of land rovers. ive see one of our club members with three five gallon buckets of brocken axle stubs. but this guy could change them in a snap. if you got the coin and want the best and rid your self of the stupidity of broken axles. than i suggest the volvo portal axle conversion. search the web to find some info on this or if some one knows the link they might post it here |
   
Jeff Mclaird (Granitedisco)
Member Username: Granitedisco
Post Number: 162 Registered: 08-2003
| Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 01:23 am: |
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Just a thought - but how about combining a mild suspension lift with a body lift ? Is that possible and would it give you the sort of lift your looking for ? Jeff |
   
Jeff Bays (Jdbays)
New Member Username: Jdbays
Post Number: 27 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 10:39 am: |
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A friend of mine was wanting to lift a 109 and was asking me about it. My thought was to just leave it alone. I have never been let down(stuck of broken) in a Land Rover. But I have by Jeeps, which is what he is used to. I've done things it a stock Land Rover that I would not have tried in a modified Jeep because I was afraid of breaking the Jeep(again). I have seen a 109 with the Volvo portal axle conversion. Those actually look pretty cool, but I would imagine they are not to cheap. Thanks a lot I will Pass along the info to my friend. If anyone has any more Suggestion let me know.
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Ike Goss (Pangolin)
New Member Username: Pangolin
Post Number: 3 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 11:01 am: |
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Leslie - 255/85/16 fit with no cuting. My girlfriend runs them on her series everyday. As for lift go spring over. If you fit big tires fit big axles. Volvos are expensive, not that strong, and hard to get parts for. That sprung over 107 at BCB has a rear salsbury and a modified front with tracta joints . . . I dont think they are groaning too badly. -Ike |
   
Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie
Post Number: 2886 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 11:31 am: |
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There's a 109 3-door at the shop that has 255/85, and the wings and tub has been trimmed. Putting a 235/85 beside a 255/85, I agree, it'd fit without trimming, but I wonder if there could be rubbing under much articulation. It looked like it'd rub on an 88".... though maybe not on the 109". For my 88" I decided to stick with 235/85s instead.... or 7.5x16s, though it's getting harder to find things sized that way anymore.... A spring-over'd work too. I just don't see the need, if you stick with 235/85s.... But back to Jeff's comment: it's a Jeep-mentality that it *has* to be lifted and bigger tires put on to make it off-road..... I'd leave it stock (well, closer to), and learn to drive it that way. FWIW.... -L
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Jeff Bays (Jdbays)
New Member Username: Jdbays
Post Number: 28 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 03:18 pm: |
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It takes a while to get out of the Jeep way on thinking, But once you do it's a whole lot cheaper and more fun. I am going to use what is posted here to try to convince my friend to go with at the most a spring-over and larger tires. But not the 38 12.50's he wants to use something more sensible like the 7.5 x 16 like I run now. What's the point spending all that money for the same amount of fun? It's the "Jeep thing". |
   
Jeff Bays (Jdbays)
New Member Username: Jdbays
Post Number: 29 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 03:34 pm: |
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Hey Leslie, Do you know anyone over your way that might interested in my Disco? |
   
Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie
Post Number: 2889 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 04:13 pm: |
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Jeff, Disco market in this region's in a slump.... prices on SUVs in general have been hit pretty hard around here, and Rovers particularly so, given that lack of a nearby dealership. If it wasn't for taking care of ours on my own (w/ TRG help!) it'd be a rough road.... Actually, it seems as though every time I'm by the shop, David's telling me of another that's come up for sale. Prices keep getting lower, but they're still not moving. Well, nice Series Rovers are still selling, but not coilers. (Two Series just left for Hendersonville the other day, AAMOF). Anyway..... at the moment, I'm probably the only person I know in this neck of the woods that would even have an inkling towards wanting another Disco, and that's only because I'm starting to think about the next project after I get my Series wrapped up.... I don't want anything that costs me money up front for the vehicle, I'd be starting with a bottom dollar truck to strip out and then piece up. A 109" 3-door, a 5-door, or a Disco would all be something that I could play with for the next one. But, not yet, it'll have to wait 'til after the 88" is back on the road, and, it'd have to be cheap, real cheap. Maybe someone outside the area will see it and think that it's a good price, but it's just too high for here at this time. I've seen 'em with few miles go for less recently, so, it's one of those "keep it 'til someone buys it at that price, or drop the price til someone buys it" things..... -L
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