| Author | Message | ||
     Donald McFarlane (Dsmcf) New Member Username: Dsmcf Post Number: 12 Registered: 11-2003 |
Being the particular [cough, splutter] "brand experience" [choking noises] that it is, one might reasonably expect LR to have issued an expedition toolset / parts set comprising those things which are most particularly useful on the trail and which represent a balance of a strong ability to effect critical repairs with a sense of the premium that is weight (and space). Of course, one might expect them to sell diesels too. Back in the real world, I am looking to improve my existing tool set. Now that I am out of warranty and have started doing (some of) my own maintenance, I recently discovered, much to my chagrin and general irritation, that LR are far too refined to actually allow the vehicle owner to service their own vehicle. They will sell you a service manual. You too can read how to perform a given task. (Typically it reads like this.... "use special tools 1,2,3,4 and 5 and hey presto. then replace all the sealing washers, scrivets, o rings with new ones and shove in some more Loctite for good measure.") Which is fine. Then you attempt to obtain said special tools. LR informs you that you, as the mere owner of the vehicle, are not worthy to possess a tool capable of fixing it. In the immediate term, I am off to buy myself a pair of viscous fan clutch wrenches. I have identified two standard off the shelf non-special generally available totally bloody normal models which will do the job just fine. Considering that a couple of days ago I didn't know such things even existed I am quite happy with this concept. Still and all, moving rapidly on to the point here, I am minded to ask: What does everyone consider to be the most critical and essential tools (and parts, fluids, etc.) to keep with the vehicle when on a long trip? Standard stuff like spare wheel/tire assembly / jack / socket set / spanners / screwdrivers / pliers / etc. is assumed. Practicality, utility, weight, cost and size should be considered. | ||
| Lewis Jones (Cutter) Member Username: Cutter Post Number: 150 Registered: 10-2003 |
always have a spare set of keys with you on an expedition (i'm not kidding  ) okay, now everybody add something... | ||
| Frank Rafka (Mongosd2) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Mongosd2 Post Number: 203 Registered: 02-2003 |
5 pound sledge cold chisel duct tape paper clips vasoline enough cash to pay off the tow truck driver... cheers Frank | ||
| Frank Rafka (Mongosd2) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Mongosd2 Post Number: 204 Registered: 02-2003 |
oh, i forgot the JB Weld... | ||
| Jamie (Rover_puppy) Senior Member Username: Rover_puppy Post Number: 434 Registered: 05-2003 |
racheting screwdriver, $11 set of blue point bits (including torx bits), a fork, lots of tissues for when you start crying because you can't figure out what you are doing, 60 second epoxy glue, and every kind of tape you can get And, oh yeah - a digital camera to take pics to post to threads and ask how you fix all the extra stuff you break in the process of trying to fix whatever you were originally trying to fix | ||
| Jaime Crusellas (Jaime) Member Username: Jaime Post Number: 167 Registered: 05-2003 |
Donald, I think the decision would be based on what terrain, how close to service stations, cell phone coverage, etc. But some of the items I always keep in my truck in addition to tools are: duct tape, electrical tape, connectors, wire, spare fuses, can of wd-40, flashlights, air cleaner, (I go in the water a lot), spare drag link (at least I think thats what the rod is called thats attached to the steering arm), big hammer, tire repair kit, service manual, CB radio, GPS receiver, blanket, mechanic's gloves, shop towels, and a tarp. | ||
| Kenny Bissett (Jetson) Member Username: Jetson Post Number: 90 Registered: 07-2003 |
if you want the bare essentials...WD-40 and a hammer will fix most problems... | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1055 Registered: 02-2002 |
Water/food/clothing/heat. Service manual. Typical set of wrenches/sockets/screwdrivers/torx/pliers. 3-prong grabber Assorted liquids and repair parts/tapes/seals/hose clamps/fuses/wire/clear plastic tubing/tire repair Cash GPS / spare batteries. Another land rover, pref. one with big-ass winch. Some common sense. | ||
| Craig Kobayashi (Koby) Senior Member Username: Koby Post Number: 667 Registered: 02-2002 |
Rock | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 1264 Registered: 02-2003 |
LOL | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Dweb Lounge Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 2190 Registered: 02-2002 |
Craig, Get it right...you mean to say; "Complete Snap-On LR repair set constructed from rock" | ||
| Joe M. (Little_joe) Senior Member Username: Little_joe Post Number: 264 Registered: 11-2002 |
Donald, if you have the luxury of taking your time while servicing your own vehicle, I'd recommend doing it in your driveway/garage with the minimum amount of tools you can get away with (minding doing a proper and safe repair). This will help you determine what you need to carry. I unfortunately have had to learn this way, primarily b/c my money trees never blossom and I am a little dim and tend to do things the hard way. For example, you should probably have a spindle nut socket. For my D1, the 52mm / 2 1/8" socket is actually a very handy pinion seal and wheel bearing seal driver. Many of your common sockets make for great seal drivers. Look for other areas where a SST is required, and see how you can improvise from among your available tools. You can always improvise in the field, being prepared (and experienced at improvising) is as significant as having the proper tools. Sealants and grease can also be used creatively (who needs gaskets? lol!). Be sure to carry some sensor-safe sealants. I also tend to keep used parts removed in the course of normal service - those that are reasonable to carry make great trail spares. HTH. joe | ||
| Craig Kobayashi (Koby) Senior Member Username: Koby Post Number: 668 Registered: 02-2002 |
 Here you go Paul:  | ||
| Jaime Crusellas (Jaime) Member Username: Jaime Post Number: 168 Registered: 05-2003 |
Should be obvious to anyone from that pic that the fit, polish, and hand feel of a Snap-On rock is superior to any other piece of shit rock one may find at Lowes, Sears, or Home depot. | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2674 Registered: 02-2002 |
Is that a sweet piece of snowflake obsidian??? Definitely Snap-On quality.... -L | ||
| Chris von C. (Chrisvonc) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Chrisvonc Post Number: 304 Registered: 07-2002 |
Something I compiled a while ago before our first big trip of information found on a variety of site I found helpful. Of course is open to more personalized tuning but it gives you a good starting point. http://www.d-90.com/faq/Accessories/pretrekchecklist.pdf | ||
| Eugene (Eugene) Member Username: Eugene Post Number: 120 Registered: 02-2003 |
Oh boy, I'm having flashbacks to all those geology classes in college. When obsidian breaks, it is supposed to have distinct conchoidral(?) fractures. (That's about as much as I remember...) Ancient people used obsidian as arrowheads, knives, etc. I've been told that obsidian is even used as sharp knives for operations today. -Eugene | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2678 Registered: 02-2002 |
You are correct. There are flintknappers today who can make scalpel blades out of the stuff that are sharper than the degree to which steel can be sharpened. Obsidian: an igneous rock usually composed of volcanic glass; basically silica, like quartz, but without a crystalline structure (thus glassy in texture). (Whereas flint, or more correctly, chert, is cryptocrystalline quartz, as is chalcedony, agate, etc.). | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1065 Registered: 02-2002 |
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| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2679 Registered: 02-2002 |
-L | ||
| Craig Kobayashi (Koby) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Koby Post Number: 671 Registered: 02-2002 |
You are partially correct... When that particular piece of obsidian breaks, you hand it back to your Snap-On dealer and he is supposed to give you another rock.  | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2685 Registered: 02-2002 |
lol.... a) conchoidal b) you should expect obsidian to fracture c) use a non-weathered rhyolite instead -L | ||
| Blue (Blue) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue Post Number: 880 Registered: 04-2003 |
Rhyolite is OK, but I'd go for a mafic igneous rather than a silica-rich extrusive felsic for a bang-bang tool. Hell, think about where the materials in a standard hammerhead originated... P.S. you know what rhyolite actually means? | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2690 Registered: 02-2002 |
Basalt is usually so subject to weathering... the felsics are more resistant. Rhyax is greek for "stream of lava".... Usually I think of lava as the mid-ocean mafic hawaiian stuff, and your continental-margin stuff as going more pumice and ash, but, that really is too oversimplified.... that's what I get for spending so much time teaching Geo-101..... -L | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1068 Registered: 02-2002 |
Any of you guys been to the Geological Museum in London? You will have so much fun, its worth the trip just in itself. Its at least 10 times bigger than any other geo museum I've ever seen. Dean | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2692 Registered: 02-2002 |
I'll have to make a note of that.... I've been to several ones on this continent, but I've not yet been overseas. Smithsonian, Denver Museum of Natural History, Fernbank in Atlanta, Dinosaur National Monument, Royal Tyrrell Museum in Drumheller, Alberta, Carnegie Science Center in Pittsburgh.... those are the bigger ones. LOTS of little places, too, but, nothing to go on about here... -L | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1069 Registered: 02-2002 |
Leslie, Here's a logn weekend for you: Fly to London $200 stay in a cheap hotel or b&b, get a one-day travel card good for all underground and buses, about $10 / day. Go to South Kensington, in London. Its a nice area. Day 1 Geological Museum. Day 2 Science Museum Day 3 Museum of Natural History (boy are you gonna like this one!) Day 4 (bonus day) British Museum, if you have time. Its like the Metropolitan here in NY. That should fulfil your desire for rocks and all things musemic. At least till the following year when you return. Dean | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Dweb Lounge Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 2197 Registered: 02-2002 |
Sweet! Craig, I have this drawer in my roll-a-way I call the freak drawer. Ask John Lee about it, I sent him a few pics. I'll give you a hint though, there is nothing straight in that drawer. | ||
| Craig Kobayashi (Koby) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Koby Post Number: 685 Registered: 02-2002 |
Errrr... So let me get this straight... Everything's gay in your freak drawer... And you're sending pics to Johnlee?  | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Dweb Lounge Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 2198 Registered: 02-2002 |
No WiseGuy! LOL! I have this drawer with nothing but Snap-On S- Wrenches and Moon wrenches. Great for removing pumps and other hard to get to places. For the record, nothing is gayer than your......  Have a nice day | ||
| John Lee (Johnlee) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Johnlee Post Number: 646 Registered: 03-2003 |
That Freak Drawer is bad ass. I hope to collect a Freak Drawer of my own some day. | ||
| Randy Maynard (Rans) Senior Member Username: Rans Post Number: 688 Registered: 08-2002 |
Dean, I used to live right around the corner from the Kensington Museums on Ennismore Gardens. Lot's of interesting stuff there! Leslie can also take in the Victoria and Albert Museum and the cemetary behind the Brompton Oratory if he has extra time! | ||
| Ron Brown (Ron) Senior Member Username: Ron Post Number: 599 Registered: 04-2001 |
"Rock" --and Ron's home phone number. Ron | ||
| Craig Kobayashi (Koby) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Koby Post Number: 697 Registered: 02-2002 |
I've got RonL's numbers programmed in my cell phone. ;) | ||
| Ron Brown (Ron) Senior Member Username: Ron Post Number: 602 Registered: 04-2001 |
Its a timezone thing. Ron |
