| Author | Message | ||
     Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1630 Registered: 02-2002 |
For example the fan bolt, you need to use a wrench, coz the fan is in the way of a socket! Dean | ||
| dhk (Kay_tell) Member Username: Kay_tell Post Number: 63 Registered: 03-2004 |
i think sanp on makes a wrench head that fits a driver. hard to explane on the computer and with my spelling. i wont get into the details. | ||
| John Lee (Johnlee) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Johnlee Post Number: 989 Registered: 03-2003 |
Yes, Dean, there are ways, but you have to leave Northern Tool to get there. | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 1785 Registered: 02-2003 |
after a while you get the feel of the torque value. i suggest you practice on bolt that is easy to get to. once you have the feel tighten the biatch up. | ||
| Steve Cooper (Scrover) Senior Member Username: Scrover Post Number: 779 Registered: 09-2002 |
The fan bolt (nut?)? Just get the thread started an crank the engine. That's all the torque you'll need  Actually, I was wondering the same thing. Maybe those crow's feet things work? SC | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 1787 Registered: 02-2003 |
i think you are supposed to use one of those spring loaded scales that you hang a fish on to get the wieght(except good version). attatch the hook on the end of your wrench and while pulling on it measure the lbs of force. you'll need to divide that back if the length of your wrench is great or less that 12" rd | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1631 Registered: 02-2002 |
Go on then John, if it has to be snapon, so be it. BTW I don't use Norther Tool much, I prefer the better quality of Harbor Freight But seriously HF and NT do have their place for some stuff, albeit crap mostly otherwise. Unfortunatley they dont deliver in 20 minutes, so I find myself running down to get a huskey, craftsman or pepboys, several times today, as it happens... D | ||
| Greg Hirst (Gregh) Senior Member Username: Gregh Post Number: 534 Registered: 10-2002 |
LOL- I don't think I have ever tried to "properly" torque the fan nut-just ran up snug with large open end wrench (and anti-seize). Some vehicles have bolts/nuts that can't be properly torqued because of their location-For example, I have a set of crows feet for Porsche use. | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1635 Registered: 02-2002 |
Not just the fan bolt, that was just an example. there are many things that need to be torqued (everything, according to the shop manual) and half of them cant get a TR on it! | ||
| Greg Hirst (Gregh) Senior Member Username: Gregh Post Number: 535 Registered: 10-2002 |
LOL-I guess your opinion of what needs a torque measurement tool and mine differ greatly... | ||
| Ryan Graham (Ryangraham) Member Username: Ryangraham Post Number: 86 Registered: 01-2004 |
Torque: wheels/engines/transmissions/axles Everything else just gun it down. If you are really concerned about it coming off then put some threadlocker on it. If you need to remove it later, put some medium strength threadlocker on it. Manufacturers will give you torque specs for door trim screws. | ||
| John Lee (Johnlee) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Johnlee Post Number: 991 Registered: 03-2003 |
Dean, Here's something that might work: http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/pro_det.asp?P65=&tool=all&item_ID=8740&group_ID=9 72&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog Snap-on sells different heads for this torque wrench, including open-end wrench heads, for when you can access a fastener only from its side. Snap-on also sells a model with a lower torque range: http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/pro_det.asp?P65=&tool=all&item_ID=8741&group_ID=9 72&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog And also a Techwrench version: http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/pro_det.asp?search=true&item_ID=68414&PartNo=tech 2ydm100&group_id=17509&store=snapon-store&tool=all I think the interchangeable head types include ratcheting head, fixed anvil, parallel jaw, flare nut, and box end. The parallel jaw head looks like this: http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/pro_det.asp?search=true&item_ID=54986&PartNo=qyom 14a&group_id=975&store=snapon-store&tool=all With a parallel-jaw head fitted, this torque wrench becomes basically a fat open-ended wrench. It won't fit everywhere a slim wrench will fit, but it will provide access to fasteners that must be turned from the side rather than from the the top. | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1643 Registered: 02-2002 |
Well thanks John! Does that handle (your first picture) bend between the chrome and the black sections? I'm having trouble seeing how that can work with a parallel jaw head! The jaw fits directly into that handle? | ||
| John Lee (Johnlee) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Johnlee Post Number: 992 Registered: 03-2003 |
"The jaw fits directly into that handle?" Correctamundo. | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1644 Registered: 02-2002 |
And it bends at the black/chrome junction? | ||
| John Lee (Johnlee) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Johnlee Post Number: 994 Registered: 03-2003 |
No. | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1645 Registered: 02-2002 |
You're gonna make me ask aren't you Ok, oh wise one, could you enlighten me then please? I assume that you own at least a couple of them! | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 1790 Registered: 02-2003 |
yes, now i'm wondering... hehe if it's fixed into the chrome how does it click to tell you how much torque? it has to pivot somewhere? | ||
| John Lee (Johnlee) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Johnlee Post Number: 995 Registered: 03-2003 |
The clicker is in the handle and not in the head. Check out this torque wrench with flex head: http://www.matcotools.com/ProductImages/trc250f.jpg The head flexes on that unit for reaching into tight spots. There is no torque-measuring device between the rotating anvil and handle on that torque wrench. The torque-measuring device is in the handle, not in the head. Same thing with the Techwrench: http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/pro_det.asp?P65=&tool=all&item_ID=66659&group_ID= 17226&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog (Note how the head in that unit is a flex head.) Now just imagine removing the ratchet head and replacing it with an open-ended wrench head. The center of the open-ended wrench is the same or very close to the axis of rotation of the ratchet head's anvil. | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1647 Registered: 02-2002 |
Looking at that first pic John, is there some kind of strain sensor or something built into the tip of that handle? Or is it just a simple swivel pin (which wold require some magic to sense torque)? | ||
| John Lee (Johnlee) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Johnlee Post Number: 997 Registered: 03-2003 |
No, it doesn't work by magic. It's Matco, not Magico. | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1653 Registered: 02-2002 |
Hmmmmm....... Keep your secrets then...... | ||
| John Lee (Johnlee) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Johnlee Post Number: 1000 Registered: 03-2003 |
Secrets? LOL. How a torque wrench operates is no secret. You have a torque wrench. Take a look at it. Loosen the torque setting to a very low setting and play with it in your hands. Feel the pivoting transfer bar within the handle. You can figure out how it operates without disassembling it. There's nothing "secret" about it. The torque wrenches with the interchangeable heads operate in the same fashion. | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 1793 Registered: 02-2003 |
strong enough for a man, but made for a woman | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1655 Registered: 02-2002 |
Yes, but you did throw us off by stating that it doesn't swivel at the black end.... Below the belt that one.... |
