| Author | Message | ||
     Jon Santana (Mustache) Member Username: Mustache Post Number: 91 Registered: 09-2002 |
Hey Gang, I'm looking to fit 285/75's with 4:7 Gears (?). anybody have any good sources to find out if I am anywhere near the mark? Anybody running this size? Aside from lengthened radius arms/ trailing arms or blocked A-frame, are there any issues I should know about? Thanks a million, Jon | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 1177 Registered: 02-2003 |
thats only a 32.84 theoreticall diameter, i think the 4.7 will be no fun. will be driving around with the motor racing. 4.11 will be more suitable. tire that fat will increase chance of breakage of axels. no need to lengthen arms or anything to fitr the tire (should clear with about 1/2" clearance) unless you are correcting castor issues from a large lift,. what size lift do you have? rob | ||
| Jon Santana (Mustache) Member Username: Mustache Post Number: 92 Registered: 09-2002 |
I have 3" and I dont think there will be much trouble fitting them in the wells, just looks like I am pulling the axles toward the center of the truck with 3" already, plus my sliders look hungry for tire, so thats why I was thinking about the lengthened arms/ blocked A-frame. I'm upgrading rear axles to 24Maxidrives. so it will rev high, huh? i was kinda worried about that. Would it be an issue at highway speeds, or all around? thanks | ||
| Steve Cooper (Scrover) Senior Member Username: Scrover Post Number: 550 Registered: 09-2002 |
Jon, scroll down to the calculators here: http://www.trekoutfitters.com/Instructions/index.htm Some interesting stuff. SC | ||
| Jon Santana (Mustache) Member Username: Mustache Post Number: 93 Registered: 09-2002 |
Thanks Steve, I checked that out and it looks like I will be reving a little high at speed like Rob had mentioned. I have a short commute and drive like an old man, so that shouldn't be too bad. those calculators are cool, but I would still like some first hand experience/ testimony from anyone here running that size... other wise, i have to go to pirate and get my pants roasted right off my butt. :P thanks all, Jon | ||
| Steve Cooper (Scrover) Senior Member Username: Scrover Post Number: 552 Registered: 09-2002 |
Jon, I'm not sure if you'll get any first hand experience of that size on a Rangie, this side of POR. I think Ron A. was running that size before he went to 35s. The 285/75 is almost a 33", so using that ratio calc. you'd be looking at about 4.03:1 for a stock equivalent ratio. 4.11:1 would seem like a perfect choice. If you're preparing for 35"+ then 4.7 (4.75) would make sense. Hell, you could run 38s with 4.75s and still be revving under stock! My experience has been with a 1.4:1 high range in the t-case running 32" tires and I rev. about 3000 at 75mph in top. I'm also running a 3" lift and planning to lengthen the arms 1/2" all round to center the wheels. I'm pondering bigger (taller/wider) tires - probably 255/85s (33.3") - less chopping than a 285 - maybe 8.25s (34") if I can find and/or afford them. Any bigger than that and I would probably go with 4.11s to compliment my 1.4 t-case - it's all good  SC | ||
| Paul Reyes (Paulr) Member Username: Paulr Post Number: 64 Registered: 01-2003 |
Jon, Check w/ Roger Fastring about the 4.75 gears. He has some for sale here on Dweb but I think they're still on his truck so he may even let you drive it. It's a 95 Disco but should give you a feel for what it would be like. P | ||
| Sean Arney (Seana) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Seana Post Number: 75 Registered: 05-2003 |
I am running that size tire w/3" lift from RTE. I will be adding 2" body lift to go to 35s before spring. I cut the wheel wells and the sliders, running 4:10 R&P. This setup is almost unstoppable. If you have lockers, the Discos can not touch you due to the low COG!! I dont know how anyone is able to do these mods without cutting - I still get rubbing under SEVERE flex situations and my turniong radius is reduced. Still, I hear lots of people say they get to it without cutting - got to be body lift for sure | ||
| Paul Reyes (Paulr) Member Username: Paulr Post Number: 65 Registered: 01-2003 |
Hey Cooper, Are you going w/ new radius arms for that 1/2 inch extention or are you going to fool w/ the bushings? I just put a 3" RTE on the LWB so I'm in the same boat. 255/85's here I come... | ||
| Steve Cooper (Scrover) Senior Member Username: Scrover Post Number: 556 Registered: 09-2002 |
Hey Sean, I thought you were running 265/80s - you got 285s also? Gotta see that thing on 35s Paul, the radius arms are only for the 1/2" extension. The DC front shaft and truetrac take care of other issues. SC | ||
| Jon Santana (Mustache) Member Username: Mustache Post Number: 94 Registered: 09-2002 |
ya, I am going to be locked front (ARB) center (LT230) & rear (detroit). the reason I am asking about the 4.7's is cause my pal has an extra set sitting around and I'm thinking that against the 15 year old 3.5, the 4.7's should be ok (on the high revs side) till the whole thing explodes and I put in a 350/ NV4500. Paul, I shot Roger an email, waiting to hear back... thanks Sean, I got pneumatic cutter in hand :P Coop, you got a DC front shaft too, huh? :D Thanks fellas. Jon | ||
| Steve Cooper (Scrover) Senior Member Username: Scrover Post Number: 557 Registered: 09-2002 |
Jon, yeah I have a D2 shaft upfront. I had GBR install grease-able joints. Flush fitting nipples (not so much nipples as belly buttons) with a grease gun tip included - very cool kit. SC | ||
| Paul Reyes (Paulr) Member Username: Paulr Post Number: 66 Registered: 01-2003 |
Coop, Please tell me more about the D2 drive shaft. I was thinking Tom Woods but since I'm a cheap bastard... | ||
| Steve Cooper (Scrover) Senior Member Username: Scrover Post Number: 559 Registered: 09-2002 |
Paul, just call Tom. I think I probably ended up paying about what a TW would cost after buying the shaft and having it rebuilt. Plus, you need either an adapter or a D2 drive flange on the t-case. Also, keep in mind that the BW shaft is a different length to the LT shaft, so if you're planning on putting in an LT then you should probably wait or pay twice - not a good CB move SC | ||
| Jon Santana (Mustache) Member Username: Mustache Post Number: 98 Registered: 09-2002 |
Paul, If yer as cheap as me, go to the junkyard and get a D2 shaft, fab the flanges and slap it in. World of ghetto fab difference, Jon | ||
| han chung (Hanchung) Member Username: Hanchung Post Number: 137 Registered: 10-2002 |
i'd first make sure either a TW DC DS or GB DC DS will clear your cross member. my 89 didn't and still have a disco DS installed. i have a disco cross member ordered and we'll see if it pans out. who knows... 89's are the only ones that don't clear???? | ||
| David Woo (Davidwoo) Member Username: Davidwoo Post Number: 67 Registered: 01-2003 |
Paul: I've got a TW double double carden front DS: yep, double carden joint on both ends: called and chatted with TW: he has had some problems with alignment on RRC's and strongly suggested the double double. Came with the adapters for each end. Works great, very smooth, no apparent vibes. I did try the guys at BCS and they said the D2 shaft would not fit the BW TC. DW | ||
| Paul Reyes (Paulr) Member Username: Paulr Post Number: 67 Registered: 01-2003 |
TW it is. Jon, I'm pretty sure I'm as cheap as you are but every time I try ghetto fab (I like that one) it backfires on me. I'm sure part of is that I suck at fabricating anything other than a good beer buzz and the other part is that, well I just f#ck everything I touch on my truck up. Ala, couldn't make the SCLR J-Tree trip because I cut off my muffler to make room for my "ghetto fab" rear bumper and it melted the wiring leading to my fuel pump. Hey I just finished installing my Rovertym 3" springs, cones, bump stops and 265/75 Truxus Muds. Check it out www.roverholic.com | ||
| Steve Cooper (Scrover) Senior Member Username: Scrover Post Number: 562 Registered: 09-2002 |
Paul, that's a huge roof rack. You gonna sleep up there? SC | ||
| Jon Santana (Mustache) Member Username: Mustache Post Number: 99 Registered: 09-2002 |
he's gonna use it to haul around all the junk that falls off my fabulouis rrc :P | ||
| Paul Reyes (Paulr) Member Username: Paulr Post Number: 68 Registered: 01-2003 |
What was that Steve? I couldn't hear you over all the wind noise my rack generates!!! Hey, for $200 I couldn't pass it up and actually I did sleep up there at RRIII Hell, even w/ me sleeping up there I STILL have room for everything that falls off Jon's rig. | ||
| Paul Reyes (Paulr) Member Username: Paulr Post Number: 69 Registered: 01-2003 |
I can take all that $$ I saved by going ghetto on the rack and rear bumper and put it towards GBR gears and my lockers. Oh yes and let's not forget the TW w/ extended radius arms... And people say golf is expensive! Scoop of chocolate, scoop of vanilla, don't waste my time… | ||
| Steve Cooper (Scrover) Senior Member Username: Scrover Post Number: 563 Registered: 09-2002 |
I don't remember that from RRIII (I checked the pics. - it was there) I must have been distracted by the 400lb bumper Still no sliders? and from what I've seen, nothing falls off Jon's rig - well, not without a little help SC | ||
| Paul Reyes (Paulr) Member Username: Paulr Post Number: 70 Registered: 01-2003 |
400lbs? Try 360lbs let's not exaggerate… Nah still no sliders, my doors are my sliders | ||
| Jon Santana (Mustache) Member Username: Mustache Post Number: 100 Registered: 09-2002 |
anybody seen a rear quarter panel laying aroung? hey paul, if you are local and want some sliders, let me know, im gonna make a new set of ghetto fabbers and mine are on the block in about a month. heck, maybe i'll just trade ya if you'll let me ride around on your rack with a sixer and a bull-whip ;) | ||
| Paul Reyes (Paulr) Member Username: Paulr Post Number: 72 Registered: 01-2003 |
Great visual! I'd take em but my rig is a LWB. Yours is SWB right? Help me steal Coopers and I'll buy you that six pack! If you're making some maybe I could help and we'll make two sets??? Of course we won't powder coat them because that would take away some "ghetto". We'll just paint them black then take a gold marker and write "Ghetto Fab" on them. | ||
| Steve Cooper (Scrover) Senior Member Username: Scrover Post Number: 567 Registered: 09-2002 |
Hands off boys, they're alarmed. They are however painted (by me) and not powder coated. Is that semi ghetto? | ||
| Jon Santana (Mustache) Member Username: Mustache Post Number: 102 Registered: 09-2002 |
 yours for a sixer & my bullwhiip | ||
| Paul Reyes (Paulr) Member Username: Paulr Post Number: 73 Registered: 01-2003 |
Holy shit, I'm laughing so hard I can't type... | ||
| Jose Dias (Hayzeus) New Member Username: Hayzeus Post Number: 2 Registered: 10-2003 |
Paul, don't forget that you're only half of the Porto-Mex engineering team. Ineed a set of LWB sliders too..so when are we building? | ||
| Jon Santana (Mustache) Member Username: Mustache Post Number: 109 Registered: 09-2002 |
 Phase one of operation "sixer" complete. I went with 33x10.50/15's. Gears next week. :D |
