| Author | Message | ||
     David Morin (Sporin) Member Username: Sporin Post Number: 68 Registered: 02-2003 |
Biggest tire on STOCK RRC? I swear I've done searches, but maybe I'm using it wrong. All over google and I can't seem to find the answer... Either way, I'm looking at buying an 88 RRC and want to upgrade to the tallest tire I can without making other mods. I figure I'll want to upgrade my 10-splines before I lift it and go to a really big tire. These would be AT's of some sort, and mounted on the stock (gray centers) 3 spoke RRC wheels. Eventually, I'd like to do a 3'' Sarariguard lift, 24-slpine axles with a Lockrite in the rear, and 33" TSL's.  | ||
| Alan Bates (Alanb) Senior Member Username: Alanb Post Number: 356 Registered: 07-2002 |
http://www.rangerovers.net/rrtires.htm | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 1186 Registered: 02-2003 |
a range rover from 1988 will most likely have saggy springs... so even less clearance than normal. rd | ||
| Randall Smith (Mr_smith) Member Username: Mr_smith Post Number: 112 Registered: 04-2003 |
245mm wide is the ideal size for a 7" wheel. 31" tall is the largest diameter you can run on a RRC without starting more problems. So choose 245/75-16 as the largest tire. You can get a 1.5" lift with LR heavy duty springs. Order the HD springs from the UK for only $100. Longer shocks will be "needed" to offset any lift. Forget about "Lockrite". There were only 3000 88 Range Rovers brought into this country. Your choices on after market stuff are going to be limited to few really good vendors. You will also need plenty of money for repairs and maintanance. These are not simple cheap pick-up based SUVs. | ||
| Jaime (Blueboy) Senior Member Username: Blueboy Post Number: 804 Registered: 02-2002 |
"245mm is the ideal"? maybe yes, maybe no. 215/85-16 will also fit nicely. there are many sources for springs in the US vs buying from GB. suggest looking at http://www.expeditionexchange.com/ for some good info. | ||
| Nicholas (Landrovernick) New Member Username: Landrovernick Post Number: 29 Registered: 05-2003 |
As good as Safari Gard equipment looks, I have seen nothing but bad reports of their quality. Just look at this sites window, you'll see much of SG's equipment has been "tossed" out the window. I would look for suspension that has a more proven track record. Whether that is Genuine Equipment, OME, or something else I dont know. But I hope it goes well for you. I would also suggest the 245's as the largest to fit. | ||
| Greg Hirst (Gregh) Senior Member Username: Gregh Post Number: 356 Registered: 10-2002 |
If you are keeping stock springs and don't want any probs with articulation, I would not go any larger than 225/75R16. My 2 cents- | ||
| han chung (Hanchung) Member Username: Hanchung Post Number: 131 Registered: 10-2002 |
215/85's good size and looks nice on 6.5 wide steel wheels but might look too narrow on stock 7" wide alloy. 245's are nice for stock height and width is nicer for the alloys. | ||
| David Morin (Sporin) Member Username: Sporin Post Number: 69 Registered: 02-2003 |
thanks everyone for the insight. It's starting to look like I'll be able to find an FJ60 or FJ620 in my area and price range after all though. nothing definite yet though. I may try to hold out a few years until I have some more money to embark on Rover ownership. Sounds like I'll need it. | ||
| David Woo (Davidwoo) Member Username: Davidwoo Post Number: 64 Registered: 01-2003 |
David: I recently sold a 1989 FJ62, had it a couple of years, but that straight six stock engine was just too slow: no easy options for more power, so I sold it and got a 1991 RRC: Han wishes he had bought it instead If you decide to go FJ, look for one that has already had the vortech engine swap done: would make life much nicer. For info on FJ's, see www.tlc4x4.com, here in Socal. DW | ||
| han chung (Hanchung) Member Username: Hanchung Post Number: 133 Registered: 10-2002 |
dw, LOL... i think i'm convinced i like my rangie now... LOL | ||
| David Morin (Sporin) Member Username: Sporin Post Number: 71 Registered: 02-2003 |
DW... After some more research and thought, I nixed that FJ62 deal so I'm still looking for a 4x4. Looking at cheaper stuff though right now... too tight of a budget for Rover-ownership at the moment. Someday though... | ||
| Hendrik Behrmann (Hendrik) New Member Username: Hendrik Post Number: 10 Registered: 09-2003 |
Maybe nobody bothers, but I think 265/75-16 are the Minimum to talk about Coincidentally that�s the size I have on my RRC. Lift is no other than rear-springs to front and Disco H/D�s to the rear. Full compression of the rear spring causes no rubbing (other than on the outer door dust seal). On the front I can�t tell so far. | ||
| Hendrik Behrmann (Hendrik) New Member Username: Hendrik Post Number: 11 Registered: 09-2003 |
Hmm. Hope now comes the pic ...  | ||
| David Morin (Sporin) Member Username: Sporin Post Number: 74 Registered: 02-2003 |
Hendrik, Can you elaborate on your lift or point me towards more info? Is it cheaper then just getting set of Bearmach Big Blues ($230 for 4, 2-3" of lift) ?? | ||
| Randall Smith (Mr_smith) Member Username: Mr_smith Post Number: 119 Registered: 04-2003 |
David: I agree with Hendrik. You can get HD springs for the rear and progressive rate rears to go in the front. ~$25/per spring. So long as you avoid adding 1000 pounds of "off-roading" accessories, these springs give the lift required to clear the tires. And as he mentioned you could use 265/75s with this set up, but tires will rub occasionally on full articulation. You also need to get longer shocks, or lower the upper shock mounts to regain lost shock travel when you lift. So even with a simple lift there are more expenses and complications than just swapping springs. Randall | ||
| Hendrik Behrmann (Hendrik) New Member Username: Hendrik Post Number: 13 Registered: 09-2003 |
Randall said it all. I don�t have the part no. for the Discovery H/D rear spring, but your supplier will know. It is progressive, as said. And I think the quality of the OEM springs is quite reasonable. I found that the Range "seems to sag" (sits lower) at the rear with the Disco�s springs. You will notice if you look at the pic closely. I have two 20mm spacer (nothing more than a 100mm diameter Aluminium disc) waiting that I will put beneath the lower spring retainer to level the car. Randall is right in what he sais about the shocks and probably about the rubbing. But if you�re keen on doing it cheap then I would get some higher/bigger bump stops (lowering them by 10-20mm might be enough). This is when a lowered shock mount (quite possibly a DIY job) or longer aftermarket shocks make sense to me. But could wait (and live with a little less downward axle travel) until the shock will need replacing and then uprate. In my case (not yet altered bump stop - I have a body lift of 20mm in mind) I don�t necessarily have to change the shocks, unless I were dissatisfied with the OEM shocks anyway. | ||
| Hendrik Behrmann (Hendrik) New Member Username: Hendrik Post Number: 14 Registered: 09-2003 |
BTW: I gained about 40mm lift in the front and 25-30mm in the rear. This is obviously less than you gain with the Bearmach springs (25.4mm equals 1"). Still, higher springs give the impression of much clearance but cannot prevent the tires from fouling the wheel arches this is the job of the bumps stops, they limit the upward axel travel. | ||
| David Morin (Sporin) Member Username: Sporin Post Number: 76 Registered: 02-2003 |
Interesting! Thanks. The RRC I'm looking at is sitting on stock springs with new Bilstein shocks and good, but puny, 205 tires. I would like to both lift it, and put on better, bigger tires. Unfortunately, I'll really only have enough $$$ to do one of these things right now. But I'd like to avoid buying 1 set of tires now, and another when I lift. I would like to buy 5 new 245/75-16 AT's now then lift in the spring. Will these even come close to fitting? Will a bit of trimming make enough room? Would I be wiser to stick with 225/75's? I'd appreciate some input, thanks. For a lift, I plan to go with a set of Big Blues, 4 new shocks for extended travel, adjusted bumpstops, and the castor adjusting bushing set. I am hoping to do this in the Spring or early Summer | ||
| Hendrik Behrmann (Hendrik) New Member Username: Hendrik Post Number: 16 Registered: 09-2003 |
245/75-16 should not be a problem (in theory, as known Rover vary a little in terms of fitment - I think mainly hand-made they are). 7.00-R16 were fitted on Camel-Trophy Discoveries and 245/75-R16 are about the same size. They should fit even without lift. You could search the archives, there are lots of threads about tire sizes and I�m sure to remember quite a few already have this size on their Range/Discos. You could talk to them, too. | ||
| John Cinquegrana (Johnc) Senior Member Username: Johnc Post Number: 540 Registered: 07-2002 |
I run 265/75/16 MTs on 16x7 GCR rims and the only place they rub is on the bottom of the rear doors. I had to cut a small section of the wheel arch to stop it from cutting my tires under full flex. I have 3" BB with stock Bilsteins (homemmade shock extensions). Steering stops had to be adjusted (piece of cake) to prevent them from rubbing against the radius arms. http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3653414/1070913629004_P1010064.JPG http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3653414/1070913629004_P1010064.JPG | ||
| David Morin (Sporin) Member Username: Sporin Post Number: 77 Registered: 02-2003 |
I'll keep searching and reading, thanks. Sounds like the 245/75-16 will fit, perhaps a bit of trimming here and there and adjusting the bump stops (is this easy?) Good to know. I'm looking at Dunlop Radial Rover RT's as I had them on my old Trooper and LOVED them. GREAT all around tire and just phenomenal in the winter. | ||
| John Cinquegrana (Johnc) Senior Member Username: Johnc Post Number: 541 Registered: 07-2002 |
David, you cannot ADJUST the bumpstops but you can replace them with longer ones. You CAN adjust the steering stops (just loosen the bolts). | ||
| David Morin (Sporin) Member Username: Sporin Post Number: 79 Registered: 02-2003 |
Thanks for the clarification. Do you need to MAKE new bumpstops or does somebody sell longer ones? (AB, etc?) | ||
| John Cinquegrana (Johnc) Senior Member Username: Johnc Post Number: 542 Registered: 07-2002 |
I think you can get the 9.9104 4" bump stops from energy suspension and make them fit. Here is the link: http://www.energysuspension.com/bsp2.html | ||
| David Morin (Sporin) Member Username: Sporin Post Number: 87 Registered: 02-2003 |
Hey all, I just got some HUGE news. Seems the RRC I'm buying already has an OME lift on it!! I didn't know this as I haven't personally seen it yet. (lots of emails and digi--pics plus a buddy looked it over, it's out of state) My sale goes down on Saturday when I'll test drive it and make the final, final decision, so this was a big surprise. No I'll be looking at 235/85-16 or 265/75-16 instead. I'll let you all know how it goes! -Dave |
