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SSV (Susannah)
Senior Member Username: Susannah
Post Number: 652 Registered: 06-2002
| Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 05:51 pm: |
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1992 RR Classic. 150K miles. Plymouth Blue with Tan leather, County edition. All electrics except cruise control work. Good heat. Good AC. Sunroof, heated seats. Aftermarket Kenwood tape/radio. Newer speakers. Brush guard front and rear. Paint is beautiful and so is the interior. Rear tailgate has some rust and does not latch. No rust anywhere else. Underneath is clean, never offroad. Current owner has only used 4wd once! New (er) Michelins. He has all the books/records back to the window sticker. Original owner was in Colorado. This thing drives absolutely perfect. Engine, steering and transmission are as solid as my Disco with 88k. Cleaner too! New power steering pump, water pump and O2 sensors in the past year. He's asking $4300. Said he would take $4000. My husband is in love and trying to decide.... Anyone have comments? |
   
Tim '92 RR (Snowman)
Senior Member Username: Snowman
Post Number: 660 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 07:01 pm: |
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In my region that would be a very fair price. I am sure someone will disagree but I find the prices paid really vary by area. We are unfortunately not exactly brimming with Rovers here in VT. I am not exactly sure what you mean by only using the 4WD once? Tim |
   
Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor
Post Number: 1509 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 08:24 pm: |
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price is about right if it's really as good as you describe. they are always in 4wd. |
   
Phillip Perkinson (Rover4x4)
Senior Member Username: Rover4x4
Post Number: 646 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 08:47 pm: |
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maybe she meant its capabilities |
   
SSV (Susannah)
Senior Member Username: Susannah
Post Number: 653 Registered: 06-2002
| Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 10:34 am: |
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I meant that he never used 4-Low. Sorry....the current owner just had it for his girlfriend to drive....and she never drove in the snow. He had a collection of cars... The only problems that I found are rust on the rear tailgate and latch doesn't lock (might just need adjustment); cruise control doesn't work; rear windshield wiper switch is broken (it seems) and there is a panel missing on the right side in the boot area (under the tray supports). But for the age/miles it drives very well. |
   
James4hand (James4)
New Member Username: James4
Post Number: 15 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 11:49 am: |
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BUY IT!!! |
   
Ian Kreidich (Ian95rrc)
Member Username: Ian95rrc
Post Number: 136 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 11:59 am: |
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You should remove all carpet and insulation and look at the floor from front to rear. I Guarantee you it has rust in many hidden places. The seat belt anchors in the rear wheel wells tend to rust out. Look closely at the area below the tailgate. This tends to rust out as well. All those rust problems are fixable, but you should be aware of them before you purchase the vehicle.
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Jaime (Blueboy)
Senior Member Username: Blueboy
Post Number: 870 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 03:30 pm: |
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Sus, Ian is right on the potential rust areas if the RaRo has been in the road salt States. Problem is LR only primed the steel structure and rust could be real issue. If you find rust on the floor especially in the footwells, more than likely there is going to be rust in areas you can't see such as between the rear fenders and the steel substructure. go here to view what you can't see from the outside and what happens: http://www.eastcoastrover.com/Thompson2.html We recently purchased a '94 RR fron So. Cal. and it has 0 rust. Engine has issues, yet, that is more easily fixed than a rusted shell. My '93 RR drove perfect, had really few miles for the year, and turned out to be what you see on the above link. Couldn't see any of it except for the typical rear tailgate. And mine had the dealer stamps for the rust inspection. It was fixable and turned out better than original, yet, I wouldn't buy a RR from the salt using States again. at least this time around when we paint the '94 the way it should have been from LR, there will not be any steel repair involved. get one from AZ., NM., So. Cal., NV., etc. Jaime |
   
Ian Kreidich (Ian95rrc)
Member Username: Ian95rrc
Post Number: 139 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 06:00 pm: |
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Ditto on Jaime's advice. I recently had to replace the rear floor in my 95 classic due to rust. I bought a salvaged floor from Roverland in Florida. They simply cut out the body around the floor and sent it to me. On all outward appearances the floor looked rust free and appeared to come from a south american truck. However, once I started dismantling the floor I found surface rust everywhere they spot welded two peices of steel together. Like Jaime said, they just primed the steel, so if water gets in between a joint it just sits and eventually rusts out. I'll be posting some info on how the floor replacement went soon so you can check it out in more detail. |
   
SSV (Susannah)
Senior Member Username: Susannah
Post Number: 654 Registered: 06-2002
| Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 06:57 pm: |
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Wow. Well, we got the check today and will plan to pick it up on Wednesday, however, we will probably double check these things again at that time. I think for the price, it may be worth taking the chance...fixing what we need and either keeping it forever or selling it in a year or so. Thanks for everyone's suggestions...will let you know how it turns out! |
   
Jaime (Blueboy)
Senior Member Username: Blueboy
Post Number: 871 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 09:00 pm: |
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Sus, the keeping it forever was the reason for my repair. unfortunately Lucky met with an untimely "death" as you might have read. as Ian mentioned, it all can be fixed. Plymouth blue is a cool color. good luck and if all works out, welcome to RR. even Rob has figured out RR are cooler than Discos - just in case he follows this thread. Jaime
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SSV (Susannah)
Senior Member Username: Susannah
Post Number: 655 Registered: 06-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 01:19 pm: |
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Jaime, What happened to yours? Did I miss that somewhere? My husband has always liked the RRC, ever since I passed on the Rover 'bug!' He is very excited about acquiring one and having TWO Rovers to take to MAR in the fall! Let's just hope it's a good buy. PS I love that little driving guy! |
   
Darren Ohara (Ronin)
New Member Username: Ronin
Post Number: 7 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 01:45 pm: |
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SSV I was thinking the same thing and then I realized that the wreaked RRC in the letters to ECR was Lucky along with the RRC that they are parting out. Kind of gave me a chill as I have the exact same Rover (just not as nice and without all the gear he has). I have to agree with Jaime in his letter. Rovers are a tough vehicle. I hit a deer last week doing 55 head on. Lucky for me the deer was pushed down by my brushguard and ... well you get the picture. The only damage to my Rover was the right front fender was tucked in, but I was able to pull that out without damage. Best of luck on the RRC!! Darren |
   
SSV (Susannah)
Senior Member Username: Susannah
Post Number: 656 Registered: 06-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 02:33 pm: |
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Glad to hear everything turned out ok Darren! That's a scary encounter....we have tons of deer here and they are always a road hazard (not to mention a danger to THEIR life!)! I do have another question, does anyone know if you can replace the stereo in a Classic with a newer model...like another RR or even a Freelander system? It would be great to put one of the LR single CD systems in there, or a CD changer (which I think the previous owner removed). I did a search, but didn't find much about this topic. THANKS |
   
A. Ali (Alia176)
Member Username: Alia176
Post Number: 146 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 03:51 pm: |
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I suggest going with a CD changer due to the fact that most CD (in dash) player doesn't appreciate the angle of the stereo in a RRC. You can replace the oem changer with a newer one that plays MP3s, CD R/W, etc.. and won't skip as much! Good luck, Ali '91RRC |
   
Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor
Post Number: 1518 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 05:45 pm: |
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yes it is easy to chang e the radio, you can get a wireing harness here http://www.installer.com/cars/landrover.html i bought one from this guy, the other issue is the CD/Stereo you get cannot be too deep or it will not fit in the slot. my JVC unit was a bit too long and i was able to tilt it on an angle to get it to fit. it's not the best looking fit but it's a minidisc player and there is very limited selection of them. also like Ali said make sure the CD player can handle the angle, it will be stated in the description, usually. rob |
   
Darren Ohara (Ronin)
New Member Username: Ronin
Post Number: 8 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 12:39 pm: |
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Another possibility is to get an iPod. You will have more music available to you and you can take it with you. Just a thought. Darren |
   
SSV (Susannah)
Senior Member Username: Susannah
Post Number: 662 Registered: 06-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 01:48 pm: |
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Thanks guys....we will have to play around with teh stereo that is in it...I was thinking if we found a new or gently used RR stereo to put back in it...the CD changer hookup would be easier and would make the truck more original. We shall see. Picking it up at 6:30 today!! |
   
Tim '92 RR (Snowman)
Senior Member Username: Snowman
Post Number: 664 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 01:56 pm: |
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Susannah- Now you have to think of another vanity plate name. Any ideas yet? |
   
SSV (Susannah)
Senior Member Username: Susannah
Post Number: 663 Registered: 06-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 02:03 pm: |
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Well, I HAD some ideas, but my husband said for a third car, it's going to get basic plates. Maybe I'll change his mind by tomorrow at the DMV! I wanted MTNRVR or something like mine..... |
   
A. Ali (Alia176)
Member Username: Alia176
Post Number: 149 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 04:10 pm: |
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Su... Make sure that the vehicle comes with a jack, lug nut handle, owners manual, wheel chocks, radio code, an emergency manual handle for the sunroof (should be tucked under teh sunroof switch panel) etc.. It seems silly but it's a pet peeve of mine to have to hunt down this type of stuff after the sale. Good luck, Ali |
   
SSV (Susannah)
Senior Member Username: Susannah
Post Number: 664 Registered: 06-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 04:36 pm: |
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Thanks Ali, those are good things to check for as well! I appreciate the help! Cheers, S |
   
eric johnson (Eric2)
Member Username: Eric2
Post Number: 232 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 04:36 pm: |
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Cruise Control Fix - Most of the time, c.c failure is due to weathering /drying out of the rubber hoses. They usually crack at the connector, where they slide over the tubes. Just trim it back and reconnect. To check them - all the c.c stuff is along the drivers side fender. with one tube going thru the firewall to a switch behind the brake pedal. You may need to remove the kick panel above the pedals, so check that one last. Its usually one of the tubes inside the engine compartment. IF all that checks out and it still doesn't work, it may need a new "cassette", which is inside the steering wheel. The cassette can get damaged by some knothead at a tire shop taking a shortcut aligning the tires. They pull the steering wheel off, get the front tires pointed straight, then reattach the steering wheel, damaging the cassette. Bastards. Dealer or Rover shop fix - part is around $100, labor ??. Maybe an hour? Ask me how I know. |
   
SSV (Susannah)
Senior Member Username: Susannah
Post Number: 666 Registered: 06-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 04:53 pm: |
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Thanks Eric I fixed the cruise control in my Disco by replacing the hoses and I had a quick look at the ones on the Rangie...seems to be the same problem. Sorry to hear about your breakage issues! We are more concerned with fixing the rear windshield wiper at this point!  |
   
Jaime (Blueboy)
Senior Member Username: Blueboy
Post Number: 872 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 04:58 pm: |
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Sus, Lucky was totalled due to an accident because some jerk pulled out in front of me at an intersection. Its with ECR getting parted out and stripped of the useful stuff like the engine for the white '94 RR now named the Ghost of Lucky or Ghost for short. Also I just happen to have an extra jack, et al from Lucky if your RR doesn't have it. Just let me know and we can work out something. Jaime |
   
SSV (Susannah)
Senior Member Username: Susannah
Post Number: 667 Registered: 06-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 05:23 pm: |
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Jaime, how is the upper tailgate from Lucky? We might need to replace this one....I know of two wrecked RRC near here that we might check, but I know that's a hot item. Also, does it have the original radio? Sorry Lucky was lost (and not so lucky anymore!) Hope you are enjoying the new one! |
   
Jaime (Blueboy)
Senior Member Username: Blueboy
Post Number: 874 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 05:41 pm: |
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Sus, upper tailgate in PERFECT condition. replaced it with new from LR and the RR has been in OK since so no salt, moisture to start the rust. yep, original radio that also worked. if interested, call Mike Smith at ECR for pricing. Jaime |
   
Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor
Post Number: 1534 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 06:00 pm: |
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sus, the motor might be burned up for the rear wiper. you'll have to pull down the headliner in the rear and access it from there. naturally check fuses an'at first. rd |
   
john kazeva (Jkazeva)
New Member Username: Jkazeva
Post Number: 13 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 08:58 pm: |
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I have the OEM Clarion am/fm/cassette player (with its code) I pulled from my 1989 RRC. Works great! It's sitting wrapped quietly on a shelf in plastic. In addition to the code, I have my individually hand annotated listing of the leads' signals by color of the lead. This list, that I verified by test of each, was to ensure the changeout was properly accomplished, as the vehicle harness in Rangie did not have a cross-reference/labels. I have an extra mating connector body set and pins/socket pairs in case a harness it would connect to requires adaptation. Replaced the Clarion after i found a Kenwood KDC 3011 CD head unit in a bush while walking my dog. Replaced the $80.00 faceplate and now that is in Rangie now. Two weeks later, out with sara again at dawn mid-winter, I found an Alpine CDA-7873, ripped it open on my dining room table, blew out some sand/grit, replaced the $36.00 laser transport unit and the $120.00 faceplate then that landed in another of my vehicles. If this Clarion is of any interest to you, I could send digi photos of it and scan my list and email that to you, off this list. |
   
Peter Carey (Peterca)
Member Username: Peterca
Post Number: 49 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, February 09, 2004 - 04:18 pm: |
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Where the heck do you go walking???
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Dean Chrismon (Chrismonda)
Member Username: Chrismonda
Post Number: 164 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Monday, February 09, 2004 - 06:33 pm: |
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Thats what I was thinking... |