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Ed Hernandez (Rrc)
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Post Number: 4
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Friday, January 30, 2004 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I am getting ready to put Firestone Destination M/T's on my RRC and I am thinking about using Equal Tire Balancer instead of balancing the tires. It seems kind of wierd but maybe it works. Does anyone have any experience with these products? Click on the links to check them out!

http://www.expeditionexchange.com/equal/FAQ.htm

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Firestone&tireModel=Destination +M%2FT&vehicleSearch=false&partnum=475R6DESTMTOWL&fromCompare1=yes
 

Steve Cooper (Scrover)
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Post Number: 676
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 01:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yes, I've used Equal on three sets of tires on my RRC. It works. I have heard of it not working on really sucky tires...

SC
 

Darren Ohara (Ronin)
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Post Number: 14
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I agree with Steve and have used it also. The only negative that I have heard is to be careful not to introduce moisture into the tire as that will cause the Equal to cake up and then make your tire unbalanced. Have not had that happen to me, but does make sense.

Darren
 

Pugsly (Pugsly)
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Post Number: 267
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 02:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I've not tried Equal, but I've watched a lot of conversations on the web and listservs.

Seems like it is one those products that people either swear by or swear at.

I've never had a balance problem with any of my tires, so haven't felt motivated to try anything other than the normal lead weights. If I had tires that wouldn't balance any other way (and couldn't return them), I might well give Equal a try.
 

marc olivares (Pugs)
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Post Number: 316
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

ed,
done both, equal and weights (on good tires too) and i found that the equal was fine at lower speeds but would tend to lose its balance at higher speeds (60-70).
i bought a case of the stuff from a tractor supply and i couldn't give the stuff away. in the end, all my buddies switched back over to weights and i kept the equal. for whats it's worth when i replace my tires ,i too will go back to the weights.
marc
 

Aaron Richardet (Draaronr)
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Post Number: 393
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I've had it in a set of Re-tread MTs and I absolutely love it from 0-75mph. I don't drive faster than that so it works great for me.
 

Donald Box (Roverheadtx)
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Post Number: 36
Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

can you use equal along with lead weights? equal seems to help prevent cupping and seems to have evened out some 245/75R16 BFG MTKOs I have that were pretty cupped, but I,m with Pugs, seems to start shimming around 55-60mph. On the last set of 235/85R16 I went with taped lead weights inside then sealed them with duct tape to try and prevent as much moisture penetration as possible.
 

J. Carlos Zaragoza (Carlosz)
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 09:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have used "Equal" extensively while driving lorrys (18 wheelers), it works wonderful on those big tires. However, I have been informed by several tire shops that while installed on smaller vehicles it does not perform as well as it does in lorrys, until you reach cruising speed meaning at least 45 mph. which gives uneven wear and all kinds of vibration at lower speeds.
in short it is of no service at low speeds.
 

han chung (Hanchung)
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Post Number: 146
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2004 - 02:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i'd balance the wheels then install the equal.
equal alone will not balance your wheel. it works but it ain't no miracle powder. ask john lee for more details... he knows the truth.
 

Ron Beckett (Ron_beckett)
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Post Number: 9
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Darren Ohara made the comment about moisture clumping the Equal. The website http://www.expeditionexchange.com/equal/FAQ.htm says it isn't a problem as the moisture will dry out and the stuff will be OK.

Me? Never heard of Equal before.

Ron
 

Alan Bates (Alanb)
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Post Number: 441
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

You might want to do a search on this site about the Firestone Destination MT before you buy them, there have been some negative reviews about them:

http://www.discoweb.org/cgi-bin/discus/search.cgi

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Darren Ohara (Ronin)
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Recently there has also been a lot of talk on D90 mostly negative towards Equal. It was mentioned about airing down problems and that it does not work as well at low speeds. Even though I have used it and personally did not have any problems with it, I was not overly impressed and went back to regular weights.
 

Steve Cooper (Scrover)
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Post Number: 682
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 12:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"i'd balance the wheels then install the equal"

I'd probably do that too if I had XPS Tractions :-)

SC
 

han chung (Hanchung)
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Post Number: 147
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 01:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

ok steve...

let me rephrase that:

i'd get xps tranctions then balance then equal... :-)
 

Steve Cooper (Scrover)
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Post Number: 685
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 01:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

hmmm, xps, balance, equal, sounds complicated. Last xzls I got didn't need anything, no weights, no powder, just drive :-)

SC
 

Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
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Post Number: 1567
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

yeah, why the pre balance? that's ghetto han.

just drop in the Equal and roll, even worked on my goodyears.

rob
 

han chung (Hanchung)
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Username: Hanchung

Post Number: 148
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 01:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

yeah guys... whatever you do... however you do it... still someone's gonna say that the powder ain't good... the fact is... you paid for it and it's a good thing now.
 

Ed Hernandez (Rrc)
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Post Number: 17
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 09:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I finally put tires on my RRC. I heeded everyone's warning and finally made a decision. I put LT 245/75R16 BFG Mud Terrains on and ride matched balanced the tires. That balancing is supposed to be a lot better. I've driven tricked out Discovery's at Trek '00 and '03 and those vehicles were shod with BFG Mud Terrains. I know they can do the job. They have proven to be a tried and true tire over the years.

I went with what I would have the least problem with. The tires are NOT noisy and perform flawlessely off-road and they look badass. What else is there?

ED

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