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     Wicks (Wicks) New Member Username: Wicks Post Number: 8 Registered: 03-2003 |
It looks as though those freaks have re-cast Lara's vehicle as a Jeep. Can this be true? What's LR's PR department been taking? She still speaks with a british accent... http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&id=1808416901&cf=trailer | ||
| Jason Michaels (H2eater) New Member Username: H2eater Post Number: 28 Registered: 03-2003 |
Edeth quick get in here... Watch this... you see the neighborhoods going to shit... Oooooooooh Archie it's just a Jeep. Shadup Edeth! :P | ||
| Carter Simcoe (Carter) Senior Member Username: Carter Post Number: 2161 Registered: 04-2002 |
its true and it looks really dumb because it is based off a new rubicon and therefore comes equiped with plastic just about everything | ||
| Hans (Beowulf) New Member Username: Beowulf Post Number: 11 Registered: 03-2003 |
I agree Carter and I think it will also lose the exotic appeal of the D110 as well. | ||
| Jason Michaels (H2eater) New Member Username: H2eater Post Number: 36 Registered: 03-2003 |
Actually I think it's the Project X Defender... | ||
| David Marchand (Dmarchand) Member Username: Dmarchand Post Number: 117 Registered: 09-2002 |
Ha. That's funny. | ||
| John McCarty (1981_cj7) New Member Username: 1981_cj7 Post Number: 1 Registered: 05-2003 |
I cant believe you people. my jeep will perform better offroad than any land rover. i dont understand why you bash jeeps so much. so what if they cost less than a disco. i personally think defenders are overpriced jeep tjs. with the money you saved buying a jeep you could invest in recieving psychiatric help when your world falls apart when my 22 year old jeep that i built up goes up trails in 2wd you people just wish you could go up. oh year, your center diff is a joke vs. my dual detroits. | ||
| John McCarty (1981_cj7) New Member Username: 1981_cj7 Post Number: 2 Registered: 05-2003 |
i was pretty mad in my last post. i want to clarify something. i really enjoy just about every 4x4 made, be it a jeep, land rover, gmc, toyota, suzuki, ford, or whatever. why you people think your alone in the offroad world because your vehicles cost way too much money and have more maintenence issues than my jeep. why do so many people use jeep to go offroading? also, where did the very first land rover frames come from? | ||
| Aaron Richardet (Draaronr) Member Username: Draaronr Post Number: 121 Registered: 09-2002 |
Here is a better pic. http://www.jeepin.com/news/tombraider/index.asp who cares what she drives, all I know is that she is freakin hot. I hope next time it is a hummer, because her and hummer in the same sentence is sexy. | ||
| Phillip Perkinson (Rover4x4) Member Username: Rover4x4 Post Number: 236 Registered: 02-2003 |
Okay. shows how much you must know about trucks. Anything with a locker is just about always garanteed to out perform something with open diffs. Defenders were around before the TJ. SO maybe your TJ is just an under priced under built D-90 wanna-bee. Jeeps with thier slip yokes and chain driver transfer cases, in regards to the (TJ and YJ)only thing chains belong on is bicycles and who ever thought a slip yoke was a good idea? As far as thinking we have the upper hand because we drive $$ trucks is totally horse shit. From all the Rover owners I have corresponded with etc. not a one has made such a comment or a suggestion that would lead me to belive our trucks have the upper hand because there are expensive. So you should keep your chains drives and slip yokes to yourself. When the Wilks brothers designed thier first rover off the Jeep they were only taking something inferior and trying to make it better. And one more point if your J**P is so good then why is everyone else in the world driven a Land Rover Toyota or Nissan?? | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Senior Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2219 Registered: 02-2002 |
Uh, John? Why are you even here on a Land Rover board if you think that all we think is that we are "alone in the offroad world"?? Let's see, Rover costs way more money.... well, true, a new Rangie isn't cheap, but, I've seen the sticker price on a JGC that was more than a Disco. With front and rear Detroits, I'd hope you could go up anything! But, that's not a stock Jeep there then, is it? What if the Rover has a Detroit in the rear and an ARB or a Tru-Trac in the front? Wouldn't that be closer to fair for a comparison? "defenders are overpriced jeep tjs" "where did the very first land rover frames come from" Well, there ARE a lot of similarities between the two, given that the Land Rover was created to be a (UK) domestic version of a Jeep, eh? So, it stands to reason that they would have more than a few traits in common. And, it's true that the very first prototype was mocked up on a Jeep chassis, but, it didn't stay that way... they took that one apart and put the Jeep back together, and laid out their own chassis for the rest of the prototypes (which, I must say, is a pretty solid chassis, when compared to what Jeeps have). I had an XJ for years; it was an okay vehicle. My Discos have been more reliable than that Jeep was, though, are more comfortable, and no where near as common. I have an FSJ sitting parked because the trannie burned out; I had to buy new parts for it every couple of weeks just to keep the thing on the road, til it finally died. I don't knock Jeeps, I really like them; I just like Rovers better anymore. Yes, there are some pretty bad horror stories out there about Rover maintenence, but they've been sedate compared to my experience with Jeeps. Yes, Jeeps are okay off-road if stock, but, really do much better with a lot of modifications. A stock Rover will do much better than a stock Jeep; and it takes little modification to get a Rover to do a lot better. Hey, it's a free country, you're more than welcome to pick a Jeep over a Rover if that makes you happy.... "run what you brung".... L8R, -L | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Senior Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2220 Registered: 02-2002 |
Phillip, you slipped in there whilst I was typing, lol.... John, While Phillip has a point or two, I think I might ought to draw a few correlations.... He's correct that the Defender has been around for quite some time longer than the TJ. But, it is obvious that the TJ is the descendent of the YJ, which is the descendent of the CJ.... In Rovers, the Series I came out in '48, and is the equivelent of a flat-fendered Jeep: a CJ-2 or a 3B. The Series II and IIa, came about in '58, and would be like a CJ-5. The Series III came out in '72, and is akin to the YJ, but maybe a bit more spartan. The Defender came out in '83, and was the switch to coil-sprung suspension instead of leaf-springs... the open Jeeps didn't switch to coils until the TJ came out, in '1997... which was the LAST year for the Defender in the US.... Anyway, not trying to be argumentative, just informative.... -L | ||
| Wicks (Wicks) New Member Username: Wicks Post Number: 40 Registered: 03-2003 |
Good point on the technology Leslie. And John, an 81 cj is pretty bad-ass as far as Jeeps go. I'd have a mint one of those as a tire getter. Another important fact of the comparison lies in the "maintenance" area. Serviceability is one of the key design ingredients in a Defender, but not in the typical sense. A Defender MAY (I repeat MAY) in certain circumstances require MORE maintenance, but the important point is that they are field serviceable and much more so than any other vehicle available to consumers. This is perhaps one of the reasons why even the US Special Forces selected the Defender as their chied tactical unit platform. A defense depatement survey in the 1970's also revealed that a LR served an average of 9 years before decomission, as opposed to a meager 1 year for a jeep unit. My $0.2. Land Rover is the ne plus ultra of the offroading world, QED. | ||
| Wicks (Wicks) Member Username: Wicks Post Number: 41 Registered: 03-2003 |
Damn straight Aaron, cept Lara Croft is a Brit. The movie business is just crap these days. No dignity and no respect for any audience members with an IQ over 100. | ||
| Bruce Mac Lennan (Bmac66) Member Username: Bmac66 Post Number: 30 Registered: 06-2002 |
The Australian Army has pissed every body here off by extending the service life of the Defender to 15+ years - they are just soooooo good. Bruce. | ||
| Chris Marcel (Gumarcel) Senior Member Username: Gumarcel Post Number: 459 Registered: 11-2002 |
http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/newsshorts/03may/jeep_tombraidertj.asp they are going to sell one kinda like the TR one to the public. But it looks like shat! The is the best quote though "You'll see the Jeep crossing harsh desert and jungle terrain without any difficulty -- true Jeep capability." Hmmmm | ||
| Chris Marcel (Gumarcel) Senior Member Username: Gumarcel Post Number: 460 Registered: 11-2002 |
well here is a better picture of the actually Ruby in the movie: http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/newsshorts/03april/jeep_tombraidertj.asp | ||
| Art Vigil (Colorover) Member Username: Colorover Post Number: 171 Registered: 02-2003 |
What a joke! I'm curious to know how true J**p fans feel about it. Those stickers have to be stupidest thing I've seen since the "bandit" edition trans-am. Hmmm no, actually the T/A was cooler. I can't think of anything more stupid, and can't wait to pull up next to one a light, I'm always in need of a laugh. Hopefully I can contain myself so as not to offend the clueless dork driving. "Only in a J**P" ~Art Vigil | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Senior Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2254 Registered: 02-2002 |
You ALMOST pissed me off there, Art, I loved my black-n'-gold T/A.... Damn, I really was a redneck, wasn't I? lol..... -L | ||
| Wicks (Wicks) Member Username: Wicks Post Number: 46 Registered: 03-2003 |
I might orer one up for a grocery getter. | ||
| Bill Howell (Billh13) Member Username: Billh13 Post Number: 83 Registered: 03-2003 |
You know it is funny, I traded my 2000 Jeep in for a Land Rover. The reason I bought the Jeep was for wheeling. I hated it. Lifted it 2" and put a set of 31" tires. What a dog, no power. My stock Disco has more gound clearance than my raised Jeep had. I'll take a used disco any day over a New Rubicon. I'm a Disco owner, but one of these days I'm going to win the lottery and move into the Defender 110. | ||
| Chris Marcel (Gumarcel) Senior Member Username: Gumarcel Post Number: 499 Registered: 11-2002 |
I think we all will someday win the lottery and get that 110 we have all wanted! | ||
| Nathan Hindman (Nathanh) Member Username: Nathanh Post Number: 48 Registered: 07-2002 |
John, I think that Lara Croft driving a Jeep is just plain wrong. Not because it's intrinsically better or worse, but because she is a British character. It's frequently the core essence of a British character- keeping a sign of their home civilization in the face of adversity. Lara Croft in a Jeep is somewhat akin to James Bond driving a BMW, it's not that they're bad, there's just something right about a British hero driving a British vehicle. ie Bond is to an Aston Martin as Lara Croft is to a Land Rover... My 2¢ Nathan Hindman http://www.Pangaea-Expeditions.com | ||
| Wicks (Wicks) Member Username: Wicks Post Number: 53 Registered: 03-2003 |
And to think Austin Powers is the only one left holding up props for the Brits, with the Maguar. Bullocks I say! | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Senior Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2268 Registered: 02-2002 |
??? I thought it was the Shaguar.... -L | ||
| Wicks (Wicks) Member Username: Wicks Post Number: 54 Registered: 03-2003 |
Quite right. Bullocks. | ||
| Art Vigil (Colorover) Member Username: Colorover Post Number: 183 Registered: 02-2003 |
Actually, that's "Bollocks" I think you've got the chick in 'Speed' on your mind  ~Art Vigil | ||
| Chris Marcel (Gumarcel) Senior Member Username: Gumarcel Post Number: 509 Registered: 11-2002 |
leslie it is a shaguar | ||
| Wicks (Wicks) Member Username: Wicks Post Number: 60 Registered: 03-2003 |
OH then bollocks on Bullocks!!! | ||
| OLIVER CLOTHSOFF (Everythingleaks) Senior Member Username: Everythingleaks Post Number: 282 Registered: 10-2002 |
Land Rover was approched about building a vehicle for the movie before Jeep was. LR turned down the deal for some reason and i think that was a real mistake.The Jeep will attract alot of attention and think of the free marketing that comes with it. | ||
| Burke Bell (Ncdiscod90) New Member Username: Ncdiscod90 Post Number: 7 Registered: 06-2003 |
Well, call me stuck up, snobby, overly brand loyal, whatever. I will not be paying $ to see a hot chick in a jeep. Look around, there are 6 or 7 an every red light. Guess I'll have to break out "The Gods Must be Crazy" for my Rover movie fix this summer... | ||
| Mike Hippert (Mikeh) New Member Username: Mikeh Post Number: 6 Registered: 04-2003 |
"The Gods Must be Crazy” I Love that movie. Everyone refers to my Defender as the Antichrist. Sunofamulaca! | ||
| chris sharpe (Bromhead) Member Username: Bromhead Post Number: 52 Registered: 02-2003 |
Land rover definately missed an opportunity. Wouldnt it have been nice if they had a nice tie in with this stupid movie to announce a DOT approved Defender was hitting the US this year! Thats probably as realistic as the movie being any good... | ||
| Art Vigil (Colorover) Member Username: Colorover Post Number: 189 Registered: 02-2003 |
Sod the Defender, I want to know if Laura Croft gets her kit off this time! | ||
| Wicks (Wicks) Member Username: Wicks Post Number: 71 Registered: 03-2003 |
Amazing that they'll blow who knows how much on a hundred custom trucks and finance an international series of expeditions (G4) to get some PR, but not provide one freaking truck for a movie that half the known world will see. They should have simply used the same truck as before. | ||
| Sean Hanagan (Seanh) Member Username: Seanh Post Number: 241 Registered: 05-2002 |
I'm with you Art! That I would pay to see | ||
| Phillip Perkinson (Rover4x4) Senior Member Username: Rover4x4 Post Number: 312 Registered: 02-2003 |
ha I rather see the Rover any day. | ||
| David Marchand (Dmarchand) Member Username: Dmarchand Post Number: 168 Registered: 09-2002 |
I agree Wicks. How much do you think the G4 cost them, and how much did they get out of that? I would think very little. Of course, maybe people are waiting to buy tangiers DII's... | ||
| Wicks (Wicks) Member Username: Wicks Post Number: 89 Registered: 03-2003 |
I wonder if the original TRD will be liquidated by LRNA now that the future hopes of the Defender in the US are completely gone. | ||
| David Marchand (Dmarchand) Member Username: Dmarchand Post Number: 210 Registered: 09-2002 |
I don't know what the laws are for actually registering and driving it. Remember that it has to be to spec. for the last year of importation. LR probably got around it at the corporate level. I'm sure they can sell it to a collection, but you wouldn't be able to drive it except maybe on a farm. Kind of like the guys who import newer D90's/110's. Wish I had a big farm. | ||
| Wicks (Wicks) Member Username: Wicks Post Number: 92 Registered: 03-2003 |
Could just loan it my LE's registration to cruise around. "Officer, Angelina sat right here in this seat - would you like to try it out? ..." | ||
| Jason Habbal (Jason97d90) New Member Username: Jason97d90 Post Number: 19 Registered: 10-2003 |
Auburn Hills, Mich., Apr 23, 2003 -The Jeep® brand and the virtual game heroine Lara Croft, played by Angelina Jolie, will be showing off their capabilities like never before as a customized Jeep Wrangler Rubicon and the world-renowned tomb raider team up for extreme adventure in the Paramount release, “Tomb Raider II: Lara Croft and the Cradle of Life.” "We view Jeep as the perfect partner in this film because the brand's attributes are a natural fit with the Lara Croft character, " said Lisa DiMarzio, Senior Vice President, Worldwide Marketing Partnerships, Paramount. "Lara embodies Jeep core values: authenticity, mastery, adventure and freedom." HAHAHAHAHA!!! That is to funny. As for a jeep performing better than a rover on the trails. GIVE ME A BREAK. Maybe if you have it locked all the way around lift, tires, and a new motor to turn those bigger tires. Nothing will ever compare to a rover in the off road market. | ||
| Wicks (Wicks) Member Username: Wicks Post Number: 99 Registered: 03-2003 |
Couldn't agree more Jason, although the Rubicon does set a new standard with diffs locked up and all that as factory offerings. The amuzing part is that the PR woman had to resort to "core values" in order to justify the arrangement. I've been unlucky enough to hire and fire one too many sleepy corporate america executives and you learn that anytime someone falls back on "core values and beliefs" or any such balderdash they are admiting that they lost the game before it even began. The leader always has a sense of humor, which it the leader's rank and title, not seriously attended to "core values and beliefs". Land Rover, if Ford doesn't completely kill it before someone with a bit of Royal blood in em gets their hands back on it, likely will never find any real competition. How bourgeois was it to deny the Royal Marines an order of Wolf Defenders? Rather, how corporate American was it? They likely made the decision based on their core values and beliefs, and forgot for a moment that the U.S.' own Special Forces also use them. Henry Ford would have been embarassed. | ||
| Jason Habbal (Jason97d90) New Member Username: Jason97d90 Post Number: 22 Registered: 10-2003 |
As you stated about my post I am gonna state about yours. I couldn't agree with it more. Yeah i would think ole henry ford is turning over in his grave. Also as a previous post stated, she still speaks a british accent, lol. Being a rover owner is something that can't be said about any other vehicle. I mean when someone says I am a ford or chevy owner people laugh. But with a rover people are speechless. | ||
| Kip Pinette (Lvpine) New Member Username: Lvpine Post Number: 3 Registered: 09-2003 |
I think the fact that Land rover didn't pay to have the Defender in the movie shows their not sellouts. Sure, there's nothing wrong with some good PR, but leave it to JEEP to pay to keep their trucks trendy. If there's one thing landies aren't, it's trendy. People drive land rovers because they're the best, not because a movie star drove one. | ||
| Wicks (Wicks) Member Username: Wicks Post Number: 101 Registered: 03-2003 |
Well stated, Mr. Pinette. We'll rest easy on the compliment that the game designer actually put Lara in a Land Rover (in the original game) because he knew what we know. |
