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Donald Lang (Donnyfla)
New Member Username: Donnyfla
Post Number: 2 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 10:36 am: |
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I've got an '86 Land Rover 90 parts truck that has no engine. It originally was a 2.5 turbo diesel, and has a M77 5 spd. trans. and shallow bellhousing (as compared to a V8 D-90). Does anyone know if a 2.25 Series gas engine will bolt in? I also have a seriously wrecked Series lla with a wasted transmission, but a good engine. |
   
Michael Slade (Serious_one)
Member Username: Serious_one
Post Number: 61 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 07:10 pm: |
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IMO, that's a waste of time. Since it's totally missing the engine and has the shallow bell housing, you should get a 4.0 and put it in with an LT-95 (I happen to know of one for sale in CA). Or, you could go for the gusto and do something bigger and 'Merican. Michael |
   
Donald Lang (Donnyfla)
New Member Username: Donnyfla
Post Number: 3 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 10:23 pm: |
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I,m looking at options to use up some of my leftover parts by using the 2.25 Series engine. I already have a spare 3.9 out of a Defender. but don't have the bellhousing, engine harness or ECU. I am also considering a Chevy 4.3 V8 I have out of a '96 Caprice cop car (I do have the harness and computer for this one). I would have to find a late '70s Jeep truck for the transfer case and any Chev TH 400 trans. This vehicle is going to be the "leftovers" after building a NAS spec D90 from parts, so I don't want to get too involved. The Series engine would make it essentially a coil-sprung Series rig. Does a Series gas engine fit where a 2.25 diesel was? |
   
Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Senior Member Username: Leslie
Post Number: 2245 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 11:03 pm: |
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Donald, Yes. The Series 2.25l petrol motor is the same block as the 2.25l diesel motor. Since you have the motor in hand, go for it. Realize it would be slow... but, that may not matter to you.... I would seriously contemplate picking up the bits to get the 3.9 in there myself, since you happen to already have that engine, too. The 4.3 may not be a bad route, but, you'll be completely fabricating the bits and creating the process to do that one; someone probably has already done it before, but it's not common like a Scotty's Adapters Holden swap or anything.... If you didn't have an engine, I'd have suggested considering one of Robert Davis' engines, but, that's another story. -L
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Michael Slade (Serious_one)
Member Username: Serious_one
Post Number: 74 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 08:02 pm: |
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Just do this:
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Tripp Westbrook (Tripp)
Member Username: Tripp
Post Number: 153 Registered: 08-2002
| Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 10:30 am: |
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Where would one find a "Robert Davis" engine? |
   
Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Senior Member Username: Leslie
Post Number: 2272 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 03:16 pm: |
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Robert Davis hangs out on the Series Rover BBS on RN's site.... he's in the coastal Virginia area. His engine is a mercruiser-type cross-flow 4-cyl that he spec'd out specifically for a Series Rover... it's a bolt-in swap, and has as much power as a healthy stock Series driveline can handle.... Pricey, though, ~$4k, if I remember right.... But, there's no thinking to it, no radiator/trannie/fitment issues, just drop it in and go... -L
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Donald Lang (Donnyfla)
New Member Username: Donnyfla
Post Number: 6 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 11:39 am: |
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I stopped by to see Rob about 9 months back in Chesapeake, Virginia (near the Va./N.C. border off Route 168). I drove his Series "mule" and it was very impressive for a 4 cylinder powered rig. It has awesome torque and pulls well up the rev range. Its a real clean,sanitary installation and doesn't look like a bunch of pieces thrown together. He was even running 3:54 axles and it still was very respectable on the street. |
   
Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
Senior Member Username: Paulschram
Post Number: 1733 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2003 - 01:10 pm: |
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4.3 V8? I thought the Chevy 4.3 was a V6. The one I had was. Great engine until the mileage started going up, then everything began to break. |
   
Arthur Maravelis (Artm)
New Member Username: Artm
Post Number: 3 Registered: 06-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 10:06 am: |
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I've been researching a 110 buildup for over 5 years and have gone through all the drivetrain possibilities. I finally decided on a Chevy V8 and a 700R4 combo and had adaptors made to fit to the LT230. This setup has been proven in use in Range Rovers by Brian Cotton of S. Africa. Well, I just couldn't let life pass by any longer while I'm planning for this 110 so I just picked up a '97 D90. Let me tell you the 4.0 V8 is plenty nice! I should have known it would be as I have a '93 RR LWB with a 4.2 and it is pretty peppy. In the end I would stick to the Rover V8/ZF combo and save a ton of work and possible headaches. Sure the Chevy (V6 or V8) gets you more power and the 700R4 gets you a better first gear but do you really need it? For my use, mainly people hauling and moderate off roading, I can do without it. Finally, Robert Davis' setup is very nice but the cost and the custom parts associated with it are undesirable aspects for me. You may get better fuel economy but that benefit is marginal compared to the Rover V8. With 4.0 short blocks going (gone) for $1000 and excellent parts availability I see no practical reason to not use this motor. With that and the automatic my D90 is a real pleasure to drive. Good pep, good sound, good motor.
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Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Senior Member Username: Leslie
Post Number: 2309 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 01:16 pm: |
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What custom parts? Robert Davis's is a bolt-in, no custom parts aside from the engine itself. What's nice is, the ability to return it to stock easy enough, you don't have to butcher it to put his engine in. -L
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Arthur Maravelis (Artm)
New Member Username: Artm
Post Number: 4 Registered: 06-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 01:44 pm: |
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I believe the cam for one is custom and some other internals. I spoke with Robert years ago on this. My concern, besides cost, was the off the shelf availability of his custom parts. Also, I don't know if anyone's fitted it with an automatic. At least with the V8 you know what you're getting - even with an automatic.
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Michael Harris (Hsvrangie)
New Member Username: Hsvrangie
Post Number: 10 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 08:49 pm: |
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Just do this. 485 NM at 3800 400 NM at 1200rpm 230 KW http://www.cmr.uq.edu.au/~rotor/the_shed/mike_harris_rangie/ Or go with the Chev. Michael. |