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David Webber (Barnhill4x4)
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2004 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I thought you guys might be interested in a car that I have here.
I have THE NAS 110 Prototype. This car was a remarkable find and is here in the UK. We bought it from an Italian guy who bought it from the British Motor Heritage Museum. We bought it as an NAS 110 but it did not have the external cage or a couple of other items. We later found out the the Heritage Museum had removed the cage and has no clue what the car was!
We have since bought and fitted the correct cage but it will be removed and painted the correct Alpine white. In a few months the car will be shiped to a friend in Florida and we will be offering it for sale.
Take a look here http://barnhillminisusa.com/4x4/NAS.htm you will see some recent pics and the build sheet and letter from Land Rover confirming the cars identity.
We also have a copy of an LRE article from May 2001 that mentions the car this article can be found here http://www.johnbriggs.com/defender110_lre_1.htm Look at the Prototype section and our car can be found. When we brought it back to the UK from Italy the DVLA re-issued its original Registration Number J31 SKV.
I expect that you will have a lot of questions!
 

Michael Slade (Tawayama)
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Post Number: 29
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2004 - 08:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

:::::crickets chirping:::::::
 

Tyler kinghorn (Flippedrover)
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Post Number: 78
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2004 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Cool.
 

Andy Maier (Newman)
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Post Number: 628
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2004 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Slade's rig is cooler.

 

Art Vigil (Colorover)
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Post Number: 250
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2004 - 11:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Sooo...what's the selling price Mr. Webber?
Why isn't it posted on your website?
 

Andy Maier (Newman)
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Post Number: 629
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2004 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

If you have to ask...


:-)

 

David Webber (Barnhill4x4)
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Username: Barnhill4x4

Post Number: 2
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 03:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The car is on the website barnhill4x4.com but the price isn't. This is because the price is not set yet. We have spent a fortune on this car and still have a load of money to spend, as soon as the money is spent then the price will be set.
New parts so far include
Roll Cage
Ladder
Roof Basket
Front Brush Guard
Rear Bumper
All of the above items were originally on the car but the Heritage museum removed them and threw them away! I found this out from the curator of the Museum who told me that they had no clue what it was and the items looked a little shabby so they took them off! It wasn't until the LRE article that they realised it was the prototype and said that if they knew they would never have sold it!
We are fitting a new Heated screen to the car, it has one already but it is cracked. ANd then there are afew other bits it needs plus the paintwork.
As you can see a lot of money has been spent but there is a lot more to be spent. The car will not be cheap but I think you already guessed that. This is a fantastic car with just 26k miles on the clock, I cant stop driving it though so expect 27k!!
 

Michael Slade (Tawayama)
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Post Number: 30
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

No, don't get me wrong. That 110 prototype is cool. I just think it's funny that he's calling it THE prototype when we know there are nine.

If you want to buy a German spec NAS 110 prototype call George at RDS. He has one that is running and ready to go I hear.

The prototype that David is selling is cool, but since it's been taken apart and rebuilt, don't expect top dollar for it. If you look at the series trucks, early or late, top dollar ALWAYS goes to 'unrestored original' condition trucks.

Granted, the roll cage and stuff like that are bolt on-bolt off, but the truck would be much cooler if it had never been taken apart.

When you remove the roll cage you have open exposed holes and water, dust, dirt etc., can come in unless they are plugged.

Invites a whole new set of questions actually.

I don't want to belittle his truck nor his attempts to fix it up, that's appreciated for sure. But, it was reminescent of the 'Hey Check out my 110' thread that was so interesting.

Prototype anythings are cool, so I hope it finds a good home. Good luck!

:-)
 

Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
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Username: Nosivad_bor

Post Number: 1711
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Art Vigil, Checked out your Profile. I love that Red D-90 with the Castor rims, that really makes the truck look sweet.


Nicely Done.

Guy with 110, I highly doubt you will fetch enough to make it worth your while. A rather large amount of effor to gamble that it will make a ton of money.

Good luck

Rob Davison
 

David Webber (Barnhill4x4)
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Post Number: 3
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I said it was THE prototype because that is what it is!
The VIN 911511 was produced long before the next prototype, LRNA/1 VIN 915426 Land Rover have confirmed it was the first one.
Just thought it would be something that people would find interesting thats all.
As for the car being taken apart? The roll cage had been removed and replaced with an identical replacement. Manufactured by Safety Devices themselves! THe car I have was the one that was sent to Safety Devices to develop the cage, they knew that the internal parts had some slight differences to the production cars and had records of all plans for the cage, it arrived and it bolted straight on. The holes were actually sealed when the cage was removed, I cleared the holes and fitted the cage.
 

Michael Slade (Tawayama)
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Post Number: 31
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ok, so you got the identical cage which was a prototype (kind of cool that they could replicate it actually), and you apparently do have THE prototype.

Ok, so you buy it, fix it up, and import it. Now what'cha gonna do with it.

I agree with Rob. You'll have to get a lot of dough-ray-me out of it to make it worth your while.

Keep us posted. Would be cool to know where it goes at least.
 

David Webber (Barnhill4x4)
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Username: Barnhill4x4

Post Number: 4
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"You'll have to get a lot of dough-ray-me out of it to make it worth your while"
You obviousley have no idea what we paid for it then!!
 

Michael Slade (Tawayama)
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Username: Tawayama

Post Number: 32
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

No, of course I don't.

I'm just saying that you guys obviously put a lot of effort into buying it, contacting Safety Devices and getting them to make a cage, installing it, fixing whatever else was wrong, and then you will have to get it shipped here.

You'll probably sell it here for a 'premium' due to it's 'collector status'. You'll probably even get it.

 

Ron Brown (Ron)
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Post Number: 808
Registered: 04-2001
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ya a petrol 93 110 in the UK. 8000 quid tops I bet.

Ron
 

Wicks (Wicks)
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Post Number: 151
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 03:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Very interesting. If the prototype was made with the black roll cage, leave it black. Actually you shouldn't do any work on it whatsoever. A collector would want to do anything himself.

Wicks
97 D90 LE
 

Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle)
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Post Number: 908
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Castors Rob ? Snap out of it..
 

Art Vigil (Colorover)
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Post Number: 253
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Right Kyle, they're Deep Dish.
 

Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
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Username: Nosivad_bor

Post Number: 1745
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

LOL.

Colorado is far away, my eye sight must be going. All i know is that it's refreshingly nice to not see steel wheels and faded paint on the D-90's they are getting old now and showing there age.

rd

 

Wicks (Wicks)
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Username: Wicks

Post Number: 156
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 11:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Showing age is one of the things a Series or Defender does better than anything else on four wheels, wouldn't you agree?

And IMHO, these vehicles should never be repainted unless they are being taken out of service. When they get to the stage where the paint is oxidized, then it is best to get a lot of it rubbed down to the metal from brush and let it shine. My IIA was thus worn and looked great.

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