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Whats the turning radius of a stock D90??Randall Smith09-12-02  04:19 pm
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Dave
Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I'm looking to make an upgrade in tire and size, toa 33" (285) size tire over the stock 265. What can I expect for vibrations and/or breakage on a stock D90?
 

Will Roeder (Will_Roeder)
Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

well there shouldnt be any vibrations unless you are lifting it at the same time. you run a greater risk of breaking axles/CVs/diffs with the larger tires.
 

Dave
Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 08:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks Will. I'm indeed doing a lift and expect some driveline vibes from that. Just curious on the larger tires as I'm not quite ready to swap axles and CV's...
 

Tony
Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Just exchanged my 33s for 35s after a year, so a little experience. Without a lift, you won't really get any vibrations -- vibrations are a result of your suspension geometry being off (from a lift). Breakage shouldn't be an issue as the rolling resistance isn't tremendously higher with the 33s. Bear in mind you'll need to adjust your steering stops to prevent rubbing on the radius arms.

Good luck,

Tony
 

Dave
Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks Tony. I'm looking at running the MT/R's in 33. The lift will only be another inch or so to accomodate the tires.

Did you upgrade your driveline yet in anyway?
 

Tony
Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Now I have, but only had a saggy lift (.5") when I put the 33s on. I won't bore you with what I've done since then, but suffice it to say it's been pricey and fun (not in that order)
 

Troy
Posted on Friday, September 06, 2002 - 08:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Go for it Dave. 33's won't have much of an impact on driveline. I'm running 33's with OME HD springs, Bilstein shocks and an ARB locker in the rear. I also have friends running 35's and 36's with no mods other than flare trimming.
 

Dave
Posted on Friday, September 06, 2002 - 08:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks Troy. I'm installing the OME springs and Bilstein's this weekend....

The locker will be a winter project unless I break something before then.

Anyone know if you can fit 285/75/16 MT/R's on the stock 16x7 alloys? I read somewhere that they "recommend" a rim at least 7.5-8" wide....
 

Yousef ReD90
Posted on Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Dave, I'm running 35's with 3" lift on stock drive train and axels, and I did the hardest trails in CO and also Moab with no problem (no lockers). Running lockers will increase the stress on the axels which will cause your axels to break. Your stock wheels will take the 285's just fine, but you will need to adjust your steering stop so the tires won't rub on the radius arm.
 

nadim
Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yousef,

Sorry to contradict you, but running lockers may actually aid your stock axles.

The way I understand it is that without lockers, when a tire lifts off the ground, it spins like mad, and upon contact with the ground, something gives, with a locker, that does not happen.

Now on the other hand, image that with dual lockers, and 3 tires are off the ground, and only one tire is pushing the Landie up a climb. Surely that tire's axle will be choking!

Dunno, seems both are bad.
 

Will Roeder (Will_Roeder)
Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 06:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Nadim,
Thats why you dont just sit there and spin and spin....its cause its going from no load on the drive train to full load causing something to snap...usualy axle or diff...
 

Sean Hanagan (Seanh)
Posted on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 08:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hey! Here's a thought, When your wheel is "spinning like mad" your doing something wrong. I would say if you know what the heck your doing you will be less likely to break an axle with open diffs. With open diffs it's very difficult to overload one side of your axle.
 

Nadim
Posted on Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The way I see it:

If you are locked, you do not need the speed and momentum that you used to use while being open. Therefore, there is less of a chance to break things.

I know that with lockers, I have not broken anything yet, thank God. but while open, I was breaking EVERYTHING, even R&Ps, coz I "hd" to get up the hill, therefore, the only thing to do was push that accelerator. now I push the 3 buttons supplied by ARB...hehehe
 

Sean Hanagan (Seanh)
Posted on Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Nadim,
You never realy HAVE TO get up the hill:)
 

Ho Chung (Ho)
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 01:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

hehe, open or locked, breakage will happen.
you are all on borrowed time. :)

 

Sean Hanagan (Seanh)
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Say's Ho The DREAM SLAYER:(
 

Ho Chung (Ho)
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

hehe, ok then, let's go back to the denial mode and keep on dreaming: WILL NEVER BREAK! :)
 

nadim
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Everything will break Ho, but the beauty is in if you can fix it? are you carrying spares? is the weak link a 10 minute / 13$ thing? or is it a big time/$$$ ordeal. THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS!

EVERYTHING DOES/WILL BREAK
 

Ho Chung (Ho)
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

no they won't nadim.
"i've had stock shafts and 44 inch tires for over 10 years, and ran the hardest trails in the world. they are still kicking."

LOL
 

Sean Hanagan (Seanh)
Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Denial and 44's SWEET!
 

nadim
Posted on Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 03:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

LOL!
Won't be wheelin' with you then without some air tools, food and a shit load of beer!
 

Tony Cordell (Tony_c)
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Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I run 35's Simex
but have also fitted Maxi Drive shafts/drive members
with ARB centres.
OME 50mm lift, cranked radius arms and 50mm lower rear shock mounts.

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