By 94Rover on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 01:06 pm: Edit

here's the official link

http://www.rangerover.landrover.com/

By lynden on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 01:17 pm: Edit

The article said it has indi. susp. front and rear... why? They're trying to make it ride like a toyota or something. This doesn't bode well for the disco. Hopefully they'll leave the disco alone for a few more years and keep the solid axles. What do you guys think?
Lynden

By Jeff Bieler (Mrbieler) on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 01:29 pm: Edit

I think the D2 will be the last solid axle LR we see. I read something recently that seems to suggest that the next D90 (not the 2002 D90) that we see in the US will also sport an independent suspension and that LR will only make solid axles for speciality applications.

Makes me hug my little IIA a little tighter at night. If only she would stop leaving oil spots in bed....

By Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 01:54 pm: Edit

What I'm hoping happens is...

The new Defender arrives, and the price on the 94-97 ones drops, HARD....

Then we can pick them up to USE instead of them being investment pieces....

IMO...

-L

By my96disco (Trevorh) on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 01:58 pm: Edit

I think I read somewhere (can�t remember where) that solid axels will be discontinued in the discoveries with it being an option available to AID agencies and the military. However the solid axels will continue in the defender line, due to the fact that �farmers� use them and they carry heaver loads etc.

Trevor

By Steve (Steve2) on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 02:12 pm: Edit

i like it. i like it alot - but i'm as poor as a monkey is short right now. how sad, i sure would look good driving one of those....

steve

By JC on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 02:54 pm: Edit

What is up with those lights?!?
That thing looks like all the Honda's I race around town in my $105,000 Disco That thing is the Range Rover Civic, all they need to do now is stick a Type R sticker on there and a softball warmer exhaust. And how bout all that plastic Ford junk on there!?!. Unfortunatly after seeing this, I don't think Land Rover will be around much longer.
-JC

Soon as the new D90s arrive, I gettin me a high mileage 94-95.

By lynden on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 05:49 pm: Edit

JC- don't bag on Ford yet, that's a BMW creation.
Lynden

By Eric N (Grnrvr) on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 05:51 pm: Edit

The thing has gills... What the hell is up with that?

By ken on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 06:07 pm: Edit

since I don't forsee buying another rover for awhile (i have a 99 dII) i kind of like that they are going with the ind. susp. I think mabey that might bring a premium in the future for those with solid axels. So mabey I can get a better resale value for it if I ever sell it. (which is doubtful)

By Charles P. on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 06:32 pm: Edit

Even though the details are yet to be released, I would expect that the new RR's independent suspensions are designed and engineered smarter than others, more off-road-oriented, and much stronger than others.

this is what we all expect to get from LR, but, let's see...

Charles P.

By Phillip Perkinson (R0ver4x4) on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 07:01 pm: Edit

land rover is as we know it is going bye bye

By Phillip Perkinson (R0ver4x4) on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 08:51 pm: Edit

heard that the DISCO was gonna be on the explorer frame in a few years I dont know what that means tho..whats happening to the 4x4 we like so much...damn soccer moms and stuff peopole that dont use the 4x4 on thier trucks is why 4x4 is going int eh direction it is...did you see what won motor trends 4x4 of the year...enough said

By Craig on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 08:58 pm: Edit

Guys-
Don't be fooled by the ifs/irs setup. It actually provides more travel than the current RangeRover suspension. Not your typical indi.. setup.
Craig

By Kyle on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 09:01 pm: Edit

That thing screams BMW .


Kyle

By Frank B (Georgiarovers) on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 09:15 pm: Edit

Kyle- my thoughts exactly, take at look at the new BMW 7 series (e65). Especially the interior.

By 94Rover on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 11:40 pm: Edit

Well I sorta agree, but if you look closely at the currnet 2nd generation RR, you will see VOLVO- especially the 940-960-etc series...look closely at the rear end, but hey thats EUROPE-in the end they are all related-we do it here, CHEVY=GMC blah, blah, blah..maybe I'm not as on point with this but hey, its 11:38pm way past my bedtime-
94Rover

Guys I also have a confession- I have eyes for the Ford F-250 pickup, Shortbed extracab----
and also I've had my eyes on a Toyota Tacoma 4x4 pickup extra cab-Whats wrong with me-
94Rover

By MA on Friday, November 09, 2001 - 08:14 am: Edit

Isn't this new (L30) Range Rover built on the X5 platform? I think it uses the same 4.4L V8 too. I don't know about the styling, it doesn't quite flow like the last 2 generations did. But that interior is really nice. Did you notice the BMW tiptronic tranny? If I had the choice($$$) of buying this or a MB G500, i'd take the Mercedes.

By Gil Stevens (Gil) on Friday, November 09, 2001 - 09:28 am: Edit

not the x5 platform.. the wheelbase is 113.3 inches, it is signifigantly larger than the current rangie or the x5.. ive never been a fan of indepent suspensions, but after thrashing freelanders through the las vegas desert for 6 hours, im convinced the LR indy setup is a little different.. for a tiny little CRV-esque vehicle, the freelander is very capable, not for real hardcore stuff..but thats not what it is meant for.. still though, far more capable than anything else in its class. Even the unibody set up is pretty beefy as it is on the new range rover.. you have to rememeber to that the majority of folks droppin 70 large on a range rover have no intention of removing it from the pavement..

By Jeff Bieler (Mrbieler) on Friday, November 09, 2001 - 10:07 am: Edit

"far more capable than anything else in its class"
=> Unfortunately, that is what LR is moving towards and away from their old motto of "The Best 4x4xFar".

Now all they want to be is better then a Lexus...

By Kyle on Friday, November 09, 2001 - 10:19 am: Edit

Keep in mind that our old Beat up Discoverys are in that class and will readily kick ass , take names , and be still doing it after those new ones have died.......


Kyle

By lynden on Friday, November 09, 2001 - 12:23 pm: Edit

Are the new Rangies unitbody????? Please say no!!!
Lynden

By William Turner (Wturner) on Friday, November 09, 2001 - 12:50 pm: Edit

Looks like it has the exact same rims that come on some BMW cars!

Probably offroads like a BMW car also!

By Gil Stevens (Gil) on Friday, November 09, 2001 - 01:07 pm: Edit

afraid so lynden...

By BS on Friday, November 09, 2001 - 01:09 pm: Edit

With new, more powerful petrol and diesel engines, the New Range Rover always has power in reserve. And with its independent suspension, front and rear, it's the same refined drive, off-road or in town.

By lynden on Friday, November 09, 2001 - 01:20 pm: Edit

I think I'm going to be sick...
Lynden

By Jeff Bieler (Mrbieler) on Friday, November 09, 2001 - 02:03 pm: Edit

I'm not so sad that the RR is getting this treatment as it's a vehicle priced at a level I would never spend (even with the money). However, I am depressed knowing that the Disco will get these components as hand-me-downs in a few years... :-(

By Bluegill (Bluegill) on Friday, November 09, 2001 - 02:21 pm: Edit

for that money, and that amount of "refinement & luxury" wouldn't you rather have a nice, powerful & tight benz or beemer sedan or coupe? Unless you live somwhere where roads are non-existant or winters are severe, I just don't understand the market for an upper-class off-road beast. All the dirt on my boots and grease under my fingernails would royally f#@k up all that exotic interior trim...

By Phillip Perkinson (R0ver4x4) on Friday, November 09, 2001 - 03:59 pm: Edit

we are all the vast minority how many rovers especailly RR do you think are taken off road..exactly..I know many people with Disco's and they would dream of touching the diff-lock..how many soccer moms etc would even begin to understand the entire concept of actually going off road.. with the way things continue to go i think rover will have 4wd as an option.. who knows what will become of four wheel drive

By Brian Jackson (Nerover) on Saturday, November 10, 2001 - 08:52 pm: Edit

Let's face it, the Rangie is dead...

The Disco is almost dead, and with IFS/IRS, it is dead...

I can't even start with the POS Freelander...

LRNA is done, gone...history. If my Rover dies and I can't find another solid axle coiler Rover with a distributor, I'll by a Jeep.

Brian

By Eric N (Grnrvr) on Sunday, November 11, 2001 - 10:20 am: Edit

Jeep is dying too.. New Willys will have IFS. Liberty..

By Jeff Bieler (Mrbieler) on Sunday, November 11, 2001 - 12:00 pm: Edit

Only other live axle 4x4 truck I am aware is now the F350.

By Brian Jackson (Nerover) on Sunday, November 11, 2001 - 08:45 pm: Edit

Isn't it sickening? I better learn the art of welding and tube bending if I outlast my Disco...

Brian

By JC on Sunday, November 11, 2001 - 09:35 pm: Edit

I'm with you on that Brian, my plans next semester are to take some welding classes at night so I can start custom building my own stuff.
In a few years there will be lots of nice clean Rovers down the road ready to be turned into trail machines, as the soccer moms move on to the next "thing."

By Brian Jackson (Nerover) on Monday, November 12, 2001 - 01:40 am: Edit

Right on JC. Drop me an email from your Las Vegas address. I soon will have some tires for you. We have to talk shipping, etc. It's gonna be a project. Anywho, drop me a line.

[email protected]

By JC on Monday, November 12, 2001 - 01:55 pm: Edit

Brian,
I think you might have me confused with someone else, but if you still wanna send me some tires....
-JC in NC

By Brian Jackson (Nerover) on Monday, November 12, 2001 - 02:00 pm: Edit

Hey Man,

My bad! I thought you were someone else!

Hehe...no tires for you!! :-)

Brian
(acting as the tire Nazi)

By Bud on Tuesday, November 13, 2001 - 07:54 am: Edit

I got in on this late. True, LR has announced they are dropping solid axles, but that was before Bill took over at Ford. There has been a bit of a shake-up at LR, with Bob Dover coming back into the picture a little more. Things could change. Again. And since things change, you have to wonder what the RR would evolve into, if not what we see in Gen-3? Face it, folks, before too much longer, the Disco will be due for more than grill modification and different interior colors. Will it retain the alpine windows? Expect change.

Bud