By Jorge P. Gutierrez, Jr. (Jpg2esq) on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 11:05 am: Edit

I have a 1995 Disco with 84k miles (actually only mine on weekends (wife)). My other car, a 1992 toyota is quickly fading...168k miles. Debating whether to get another 95 Disco (pre OBD) or maybe try a RR out. Want to try to keep cost under 11k. This would be my daily driver here in Miami. I love the idea of another Disco (in another color) since I do most of the work and have a good handle on it, but the RR is very similar I hear. Very minimal off-roading (occasional hunting trip with boat) so it would be staying stock. Any thoughts?

By Peter Miller (Njrover) on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 11:32 am: Edit

Jorge,

If it were up to me I'd go with the RR just because of the price. The ride is a little worse and you don't get heated seats but its half the price...The drivetrain and suspension are basically the same so you wouldn't have to relearn anything.

Check out this post debating the RR classic or Disco II: http://www.discoweb.org/discus/messages/9/5630.html?1005767338

Then again, if your happy with the disco you have now I wouldn't switch unless price is a big factor...Either way you really can't go wrong

Pete

By 94Rover on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 11:48 am: Edit

Pete,

I disagree with your knowledge on the RR-
1st-yes RR do have heated seats-heated windshileds-captain seats driver and passanger-blah,blah,blah-
2nd-Where do you get the idea that the ride is a little worse? Can't follow you there. Unless the RR has Heavy Duty Springs outfitted with worn out bushings and mis-matched shocks? then the ride quality is absolutly wonderful.
3rd-the suspension isn't the same-Some EAS, Some like mine EAS converted to Coils
4th-I agree that either way he cannot go wrong-
5th-He's not switching, He's is adding-
6th-the post about the DiscoII and the RR Classic is not a good platform

Jorge, I'm adding a DiscoI to the garage-97 to be exact. And I kept my 1992 Toyota Corolla-its got 279,000 on the odometer, been in three accidents, had five sets of tires, and its still moving strong-I bought it with no A/C and had A/C installed when it turned over 200,000 miles. And I keep it oh so clean-

94Rover(Range)

By Jorge P. Gutierrez, Jr. (Jpg2esq) on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 01:56 pm: Edit

Guys relax...I am in Florida so heated seats really don't matter.

94 Rover: my Toyota is a 1992 Paseo. Bought it while still in high school. Been to College with me, Law School and now 3 years after graduation. Can't seem to get used to the idea of a large car payment. Its just too darn small for everyone. Great cars though.

By PerroneFord on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 03:08 pm: Edit

Jorge,

I've got a BEAUTIFUL RR on consignment in my driveway for sale if you want an unmolested one. It DOES have heated seats and windshield. It still has swaybars, the front air-dam, etc. It has been changed to Bilstein shocks for improved handling. It's a rather high mileage 1992 model, but was kept in pristine condition by the previous owner (Amsoil, fanatical maintenance, all reciepts and records, etc.). Vehicle was originally an Orlando car, now is in Tallahassee. It's been off-road twice. And I was there both times with the camera!

Let me know if you are interested because I have a lot of room to make a deal on it.

-P

By Bud Lane (Hrrovr) on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 04:20 pm: Edit

Jorge - I had an '89 RR before the Disco. More creature comforts in the RR. In my mind, based on personal experience with the Rangie as well as other vehicles, more electronics equals more potential problems. Especially since we are talking about a fair share of Lucas stuff. Just my opinion, but I think you will find that dollar for dollar, you will be able to get a lower mileage, newer Disco than you will a Range Rover. Newer technology and lower miles should mean fewer problems. Hope this makes sense.

Bud

By Peter Miller (Njrover) on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 04:24 pm: Edit

94Rover,

1. Heated seats weren't added until 1992...

2. As for the ride I stand by my comment...I have driven a coiled RR, Disco, and Disco II...My RR has a fairly bad ride and is currently at stock height (and yes the bushings were just replaced). I have Bilsteins all around and when I hit speed bumps the truck hits them hard with a loud thud. When I'm driving above 70 mph the truck is just a little hard to handle. The handling isn't as good as the Discos w/ a fair amount of body roll. My sister owns a 97 Disco. The ride is 10 times better then my RR. I honestly don't know how the air suspension RR classic drives, but I hear it is much better. Don't get me wrong I love my RR Classic but without a doubt the Discovery is a much better driver...

3. I never said the suspension was the same.

4. Still agree with you there

5. By switch I meant switch model styles.

6. The RR classic VS. Disco II post gives lots of useful information about the Classics and is therefore very relevent.

Pete

By PerroneFord on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 04:43 pm: Edit

Pete,

Your comments about the suspension on the RR are quite interesting. I've driven maybe 4 discos, and about 6-8 RR. In almost every instance, on stock trucks in good condition, the RR has been the more stable and smoother truck. I am talking about the pre-airbag RRC here, not the LWB.

The RR sits physically lower which helps with sway, and it has slightly softer springs, which should help with the bumps somewhat. If your truck has trouble with speed bumps, something was amiss. I used to not even slow down for speedbumps and my truck was very smooth. It would hardly shake a cup of coffee on the small ones.

Now don't get me wrong, Im not saying that your experiences were invalid, I'm just saying that my experiences have been different and if one looks at both trucks, it would sure SEEM that the RR would be the better handling of the two. Bilsteins for the RRC are overvalved and give quite a stiff ride compared to stock. Maybe that's where the trouble is. My personal truck is on OME MD. I have another stock truck in the driveway with bilsteins, and my buddy has a LWB on OME HD with Bilsteins.

-P

By Peter Miller (Njrover) on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 05:47 pm: Edit

Perrone,

Thanks for the advice, when it's time for new shocks I'm going to give the OMEs a try.

Pete

By PerroneFord on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 06:57 pm: Edit

Even the OME HD shocks are not as stiff as the Bilsteins. I had a nice long conversation with Bilstein about their valving for LRs. And to be honest, they valve their shocks the same regardless whether they are for a Disco, RR SWB, or RR LWB. And its just TOO damn stiff! Lots of people here like the OME HD shocks. I've not used them, but I would consider the OME MD too soft if you run anything stiffer than normal springs.

-P