By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Thursday, September 27, 2001 - 08:58 am: Edit

Guys,

This is continuing in from the NJ Pine Barrens Roster thread.


John C - Sullivan County sounds like a great idea, let us know some more details.

Glenn - Keep pushing Axel to get us a trip out there, it looks very interesting!

Everyone - I would be happy to make a new trip in a location close to last time, but I need time to check it out beforehand. And I need a little more time to get this WTC business settled in my head! I still feel crazy about all this stuff. Both my wife and I have strong ties with that building - both of us worked there for some time, Debs for 4 years. We had our marriage dinner in Windows on the World.

Anyway, I am planning a trip on the other side of Rt 206 from where we were; there is much swampy stuff there, and a bunch of so-called j**p trails (ha).

If anyone wants to come and check it out with me before the main trip, let me know, as I don't want to scout the swamp roads on my own. I need someone who really loves the mud! (no names, Glen) Oops.

If possible, we should all plan to hit this place in a couple of months, and preferably after heavy rain. Then we can ALL try some death-mud!

Dean

By Glenn Guinto (Glenn) on Thursday, September 27, 2001 - 03:24 pm: Edit

Sounds interesting Dean! Although I think we should have someone with a winch if we were to trek into those death-mud. You guys know I wouldn't dare go into one of those mud pits!

-glenn

By Larry Solomayer on Friday, September 28, 2001 - 03:09 am: Edit

Ok count me in to. For some reason mud doesn't want to stick to my truck, have to try and fix that. Sullivan County sounds interesting too, keep me posted on that.

Larry

By Carl E. Cedeholm (Cederholm) on Friday, September 28, 2001 - 03:52 am: Edit

If you need a dry truck on solid ground with a tow strap to pull you mud puppies out when stuck, add my name to the rouster.

Carl

By Carl E. Cedeholm (Cederholm) on Friday, September 28, 2001 - 03:53 am: Edit

Oh yea...
I'm totaly up for the Sullivan County trip also.

Carl

By Kent Westbrook on Friday, September 28, 2001 - 08:39 pm: Edit

A dry truck, Carl? I like that, might be there with you. With the winch.

BTW, where is Sullivan County?

Kent

By Carl E. Cedeholm (Cederholm) on Saturday, September 29, 2001 - 04:29 am: Edit

RATS!!
Went to walk the dog this morning, and found that my truck had been hit.
Apperently, at about 2AM a drunk was flying down the road in a van and lost controll and hit about 7 cars, 3 were totaled. The driver is now locked up at the 76th. I just got some cosmetic damage, including both drivers doors and a bent spare carrier, mabe dented back door. I'm going in to the body shop later for the full work up. Nothing that would prevent me from driving.
....hey and what about those scratches at the roof line....what tree branch??

All in all, the Great Pumkin lives on (someones jeep didn't)
Carl

By John C. on Saturday, September 29, 2001 - 04:24 pm: Edit

Kent, Sullivan county is N of Rockland county. The trail is about 65 miles N/NW from the Tappan Zee Bridge.

Carl, sorry to hear about the damage to your Disco. Maybe now is the time to take it on a hardcore trail before any body work is done.

By Kyle Beckman (Kbeckman) on Saturday, September 29, 2001 - 05:14 pm: Edit

Guys,

I had a blast down in Barrens also. I'd be up for a trip anywhere, but preferably with trees other than pine. My paint is still feeling the scars!

Carl, glad to hear you are OK from the WTC. Sorry about your truck.

Kyle

By Carl E. Cedeholm (Cederholm) on Sunday, September 30, 2001 - 02:15 am: Edit

John,
That's the first thing that went through my mind.."LET'S OFF ROAD!!"
But I don't want any insurance isues with the repair. So I'm having it fixed.
Carl

By John Cinquegrana (John_C) on Tuesday, October 02, 2001 - 03:14 am: Edit

I am heading up to Sullivan County this Sunday Oct 7. If anyone is interested in joining us drop me a line at CINQUEG@AOL.COM

By John Cinquegrana (John_C) on Monday, October 08, 2001 - 04:41 am: Edit

Some pics taken by Brian and Samantha:

http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4292326757

Pics I took: (have some that have to be developed)

http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4292326541

Enjoy

By Carl E. Cedeholm (Cederholm) on Wednesday, October 10, 2001 - 03:52 am: Edit

John,
Thanks for the photos, that looked like a lot of fun.
Are you sure a stock Disco II could go there?
Some day we'll have to find out.

Carl

By John Cinquegrana (John_C) on Wednesday, October 10, 2001 - 04:46 am: Edit

Carl, yes a stock Disco will be fine. You can't really see it but there are lots of "go-arounds" to the difficult sections. I did not go thru the large rock gardens that Brian (Disco) or the Jeepers went thru.

I'm looking into a trail in Suffern. If it's do-able I'll let you guys know.

By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Friday, October 12, 2001 - 03:38 am: Edit

Guys:

http://www.discoweb.org/barrens901d/DeepMudDean.rm

There are a load more videos too. Apologies for the crap quality of some of them, but what the hell. The most interesting ones are the mud runs.

Dean

ps Check out the News section

By Kent Westbrook on Saturday, October 13, 2001 - 12:25 am: Edit

John,

Very nice pics, looks like a lot of fun. Are those the Sullivan Country trails?

Kent

By John Cinquegrana (John_C) on Saturday, October 13, 2001 - 10:18 am: Edit

Yep, there is one more trail we have not done yet. I'll probably go back up in a few weeks.

Later.

By Glenn Guinto (Glenn) on Sunday, October 14, 2001 - 12:56 am: Edit

John,

Did you get my email? Hey we'd be glad to join you next time around. I don't anticipate a camping trip any time soon . Was that Brian's 4.6 monster? That looks bad-ass! (I can say bad-ass here right?) Are you going to drop yours (4.6 motor) in your classic anytime soon? Email me with the details of your next trip. Hope all is well!


Thanks!

-glenn

By John Cinquegrana (John_C) on Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 08:57 am: Edit

Glen, I did get your email, sorry that I did not respond sooner. Yes that was Brian's monster.

I started taking the 4.6 apart and have not found any problems with it yet. I might wait till the spring to install it.

I think our next trip will be sometime in mid November. Let me know what weekend is good for you guys.

Later.

John

By John Cinquegrana (John_C) on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 09:41 am: Edit

Just wondering if you guys are still interested in some four wheeling (mid November).

Let me know.

By Carl E. Cedeholm (Cederholm) on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 10:32 am: Edit

John,
I would love to meet up with you guys. Just let me know where and when.
Carl

By Glenn Guinto (Glenn) on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 11:32 am: Edit

John,

If you're looking at the 17th (Saturday) that's cool with me. 24th (Sat) should also be okay. Sorry, I can't do Sundays since I'm the designated chaufer for my son to CCD (Sunday school). Wouldn't want my son to skip it just so I can get my off-road fix. - (the guy upstairs might give me some problems on the trails ) Anyway, I hope the schedule works out!

Hey Carl, is you're D2 fixed now? Hope everything turned out okay. See you at the trails!

-glenn

By Carl E. Cedeholm (Cederholm) on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 12:07 pm: Edit

Hi Glen,
Just got the truck back on Saturday. They repainted the whole thing, it'll be ashame to scratch it..Oh well!
The bodyshop convinced the insurance Co. that all the scratches were from the accident, I said "cool" but in fact they were Dean's fault. "kidding Dean ;)"

By Kyle Beckman (Kbeckman) on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 02:10 pm: Edit

I'm having my scratches buffed out tomorrow, so I'll be ready to get a fresh set in November. Count me in. I also just put on a complete OME suspension last week, so I'd love to try it out.

By Carl E. Cedeholm (Cederholm) on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 02:40 pm: Edit

Kyle,
Complete OME Suspension...Springs and Shocks? Very cool! What package did you get? How do you like them so far vs. stock?

By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 03:42 pm: Edit

Count me in John. Are we expecting any mud?

Dean

By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 03:44 pm: Edit

Carl,

Sorry to hear about the scratch-removal - all that character just wiped out! Lets see what we can do to get you back into shape!

Dean

By Clarance R on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 07:17 pm: Edit

If you guys have room in your group for another truck on your next trip, i'm interested in going. I have a '99 D2. It's lifted with 31" and i cut the front bumper.Weekends i'm free. Thanx.
Clarance

By Kyle Beckman (Kbeckman) on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 07:51 pm: Edit

Carl,

I like the ride so far. It feels smoother going down the road than stock. I also took off the front and rear sway bars, so there is a little more body roll, but not much. I think the lack of sway bars will be a benefit off road. Supposedly you get better articulation.

Kyle

By Carl E. Cedeholm (Cederholm) on Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 09:22 am: Edit

Kyle,
Sound good. Which set did you get, the heavy duty springs?

Clarance,
Always room for one more.

Dean,
Thanx! I knew I could count on you to help me get some character;)

By Kyle Beckman (Kbeckman) on Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 09:39 am: Edit

Carl,

I got the HD springs all around.

Kyle

By John Cinquegrana (John_C) on Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 11:00 am: Edit

Ok, here's the story. I cannot go on Saturday because I have to take my daughter to swim class and Glenn can't go on Sundays cause he has to take his son to Sunday School....so this is what we are gonna do:

I am going up to Wurtsboro on Sunday, Nov. 11 to check out a new trail. I will be heading up there with 2 D90s (1 modified and 1 stock) and 2 RRs (1 heavily modified and 1 slightly modified). If anyone wishes to come along send me an email. I'm guessing the trail has some nice hill climbs, some rock gardens, maybe some mud holes and maybe some branches that might cause scratching.

We will have to make another trip on a Saturday (I'll try to get someone to take my daughter to swim class). Since some of you guys like mud and not rocks I think we should try to go to CT. It's a 1.5 hour ride from Tappan Zee Bridge. If you would like to see pics from my last two trips to the area email me and I'll send you the links.

Recap:

Glenn: Saturdays only
Carl: gotta watch the new paint job
Dean: likes mud
Clarance: availabel Sat or Sun
Kyle: ready to flex his stuff

Talk to you guys later.

By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 02:03 pm: Edit

John,

Yeah its the soft kind I like more than the watery muck that leaks in everywhere, but hell, I love it all!

Dean

By Carl E. Cedeholm (Cederholm) on Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 02:53 pm: Edit

Sign me up!
What good's fresh paint if you can't scrape some off on a few local trees?
Kidding...I would never hurt the trees.

Carl

By Carl E. Cedeholm (Cederholm) on Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 02:54 pm: Edit

...my wife's gonna beat me!

By John Cinquegrana (John_C) on Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 02:56 pm: Edit

Nothing wrong with a little beatin' once and a while.....unless your wife is bigger than you!!!

By Glenn Guinto (Glenn) on Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 03:49 pm: Edit

Man, my bosses are driving me crazy today. This is the first time since this morning that I actually surfed Discoweb! Imagine that! I think I'm going to be sick - withdrawal symptoms

I like you're little "recap" there John. Too bad I have those commitments on Sundays. Although, If you're going to Wurstboro, that's probably just a 45 minute ride from me and Sunday school ends at 12:00 p.m. What exit is that from NY State thruway? I'm familiar with exit 16 which is Harriman. Maybe it's possible to meet up.

By John Cinquegrana (John_C) on Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 04:03 pm: Edit

It's exit 113 off of Route 17. When you get off exit 16 from 87 you go Nort/West on Route 17. At that point you are at exit 130 (Route 17). It's a good 45 min from Sloatsburg rest area.

But don't worry, we will try and setup a run on a Saturday.

Don't work too hard!

By David_Lo (Davidluc) on Thursday, October 25, 2001 - 12:02 am: Edit

Hello, All

This is my first time surfing the discoweb, thanks to Dean for forwarding the website and please sign me in for next off road even!!!!!!!

Dave

By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Thursday, October 25, 2001 - 08:09 am: Edit

David - you got it. I'm currently checking out another area of Wharton State Forrest - this time really muddy I hope. I'll keep in touch

Perhaps John C. might start a new thread, rather than mixing up two trips (or three is it?) in this one - I don't mind, its just may be more clear when people start signing up.

Dean

By Clarance on Thursday, October 25, 2001 - 02:09 pm: Edit

I'll be ready. 50K + miles and no mud (or rocks). A shame full thing, I know. Thanx, Clarance.

By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Monday, October 29, 2001 - 11:51 am: Edit

The wife is busy on Saturday (Nov 3rd) so I am planning a quick trip down to the Barrens to check out the swamp road and j**p trail areas West of the 206 near atsion. This is in prep for a trip like the last one.

If anyone feels the need to get muddy, email me.

Dean

By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Tuesday, October 30, 2001 - 06:36 pm: Edit

Larry - are you reading the event schedule? I left you a message there. If you're interested we can hit Robesonia together on Saturday (3rd Nov)

Dean

By SOLO on Wednesday, October 31, 2001 - 07:59 am: Edit

Dean

I'll ride shot gun with you at Robesonia. E-mail me off line with details.

Larry

By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 05:11 pm: Edit

We did the scouting mission last weekend, and it seems that the west side of route 206 is slightly different from the east. There are MANY MANY wavy roads like the few we did on the first trip. In fact, about half the journey was like that. Swamp Road was dry completely, although our resident aborigine managed to find some mud! But it had not rained for at least 3 months. The trails might well hold some very good stuff after a few weeks of continuous rain, so we'll head on over there for a peek next trip.

We managed to get through one f*&^*# narrow scratchy bastard of a road, which wasn't even on the (1922) map. However, most of us pulled through the husband-battering that accompanies such ventures. Phew.

Lets wait till there is some heavy rain, and then do a trip there. For anyone who has not been in this area, trails are EZPZ, with the most danger coming from the wife.

Here are a few rather lame photos. The night driving was a blast, and we should definitely plan on staying later than dusk (risking the fine).

Dean

By Brian Fransson (Brian) on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 05:45 pm: Edit

Dean
I'm into that.
Brian

By Clarance Romero (Clarance) on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 06:17 pm: Edit

count me in!!! Clarance

By Brian Fransson (Brian) on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 06:26 pm: Edit

Hey Dean
It's supposed to rain tonight and all day tomorrow.
Brian

By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 10:05 pm: Edit

Patience Brian! We need a good few inches of rain. We might have to wait till spring for the wet stuff. If there's snow int he winter, that would be a cool trip

By Brian Fransson (Brian) on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 10:29 pm: Edit

Yeah you're right. Come spring it should be nice, but it's such a long time to wait though. Snow this winter would make it very interesting...if it snows! Regardless I'm ready to go.
Cheers
Brian

By Carl E. Cedeholm (Cederholm) on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 09:47 am: Edit

"resident aborigine" thanks!
Next time let's not try the narrow road, my back is starting to hurt from all this sleeping on the couch.

By Glenn Guinto (Glenn) on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 10:55 am: Edit

What?! You guys took your $60,000 Range Rovers through the sticks?!

And Carl - you have a new paint job! Bad Carl! - Bad!

Actually, I kinda wish I was there too, my truck needs a few more scratches Although I'm sure I'd be in the doghouse by now.

Somebody already gave me directions to that local trail up in Ringwood, NJ although I haven't tried it out yet. I'll try to see if I can go this 4-day weekend and try to take some pics...

By Carl E. Cedeholm (Cederholm) on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 11:57 am: Edit

Paint jobs not so new anymore!
...and where were you for this scouting adventure?

Please let us know what you find up in Ringwood.

By SOLO on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 01:10 pm: Edit

"Resident Aborigine" I thought Dean was referring to the guy in the Toyoda with the $12 Home Depot snorkel. And I agree let's stay away from that narrow road,I won't have and paint left to scratch.

By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 01:40 pm: Edit

Its only aluminum underneath anyway. Won't rust

By John Cinquegrana (John_C) on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 02:12 pm: Edit

This is what you will find in Ringwood:

Ringwood

and this:
Mahwah Doc

and this:
Ringwood

By Glenn Guinto (Glenn) on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 02:22 pm: Edit

John,

Did you do those trails? That hill on the first link is very similar to the one I'm talking about. Except the one I found is part of the pipeline that goes through, Bergen, Passaic and Rockland counties. It's off of Ramapo lake by the castle ruins. I don't know if you've heard of it but, we'll give it a shot this weekend with our rigs. I'll take some pics and let you know. Hopefully it doesn't have the same restrictions as the Mahwah one.

Glenn

By Carl E. Cedeholm (Cederholm) on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 02:22 pm: Edit

Forgot about Johnny Snorkel.
I'm gonna make mine from thousands of McDonald staws duct taped together ...for under $3.
I'll show that Toyota guy!

By John Cinquegrana (John_C) on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 02:28 pm: Edit

Glen, I've done the trail at least 4 or 5 times before. I have not been back there since Feb of this year because of the restrictions. Yep, pipeline. I heard that the local authorities were trying to get rid of the quads in the area and that's why they distributed the flyers. I'll send you some more info via email. Let me know what day you are heading up there, I might be available.

Also, I have a trail in Suffern but we might have to scout it with our mountain bikes first. My neighbor runs it with his dirt bike and he's not sure if we can run it with our Rovers. Maybe we'll take a ride with him on our bikes. Let me know what you think.

By Guy Pineda on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 07:36 pm: Edit

Hey guys! This my first post on this site. I have been following some of it for a couple of weeks now and all I can say is, when is the next trip so I can tag along!!

I am new Disco 2 owner and only have taken my rig (see, now I have a rig to call my own!!:-) out on that trail in Suffern where the dirt bikers and ATVers go to. It seems pretty cool but I did not want to wander far because I was by myself and not familiar with the restrictions.

I did get my first scratch there but not from the trail but from one of the 'f'ing ATVers. I think they got pissed that I was in the way and he peeled out next to me sending rocks flying at my truck.

BTW, I am Glenn's cousin. His director's title seems to leave him lots of time to surf Discoweb. Not like some of us working stiffs!

Dean: I was with Glenn at the Paul Miller event. Nice meeting you.

Guy

By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 10:13 pm: Edit

Guy - welcome to the club!

Hey, a miracle! I've been given Sunday 2nd December off while Deb's in NY. Ok boys, lets go get some more scratches

Is anyone free that day? If so post up and we've got a date. Might end up a bit of a scouting mission again, coz I've not been that far south before.

Can't wait to see Carl's straw snorkel too! Self-filtering kinda, too.

Where we went on the first PBAS trip was in the northern top of Wharton State Forrest. This time we can get a look at the south.

Dean

Ps perhaps we need to start a new thread?

By Kent Westbrook on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 11:22 pm: Edit

I don't think that narrow track even qualifies as a road! In fact, it was almost too narrow to even walk down, much less drive. Surprisingly enough, though, after a simple wash at the dealer, the scratches don't show that badly. A good rubbing/waxing will probably eliminate most.

For those of you who weren't there, the funniest parts of this scouting expedition were: 1) the look on everybody's face when the road Dean's wife picked out came to a sudden end in a swamp (continuing out of the swamp about a hundred yards away), 2) another Deb-selected trail coming to an end at a footbridge across a creek, and 3) this quote from Carl, spoken upon hearing some of the locals in the distance: "Rednecks with guns, oh boy."

Gets kind of spooky down there after dark but it was still fun.

Kent

By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 02:29 am: Edit

Kent,

Debs is LOL! Really, I had chosen that route from the map, so its all my fault, she was just following my drawn-on directions. Anyway, its thanks to the Abo that we managed to see the swamp first rather than having to winch him out had he gone a bit further.

Surprisingly, the 1922 map doesn't show current beaver-dams!

'Twas a good day!

Dean

By Kyle Beckman (Kbeckman) on Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 03:25 am: Edit

Dean,

You can count me in. Let's by all means avoid the very narrow trails. My arms are tired from buffing out scratches from my last two excursions! I'm having new, bigger tires put on today, so I'll be dying to try them out.

Kyle

By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 03:48 am: Edit

Kyle,

We tred not to do the narrow trail - but on a scouting mission you don't really know till its too late. Luckily, that scratcher was only a couple of miles long

So, did you get mudders? Which ones?

Dean

By Carl E. Cedeholm (Cederholm) on Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 04:18 am: Edit

OK Dean,
Count me in, I'm starting to get use to sleeping on the couch anyway! (I think Lucy is still mad about what I've done to the new paint) He He!

Great! now Kyle has new tires too! RRRRRRRRRRRRR!! I shouldn't complain the slicks do just fine in the sand. But I still want tires! WHAAA!!

"rednecks with guns" I forgot about that.

Guy, welcome...we look forward to meeting you.

BTW i ordered a new mic for my CB, now you'll be able to hear ALL my sarcastic comments.

By Kyle Beckman (Kbeckman) on Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 04:26 am: Edit

Dean,

I bought the Dunlop Radial Rover RT in 265/75-16. They aren't as extreme as yours, but I've read very good things about them. Supposed to be excellent in snow also. I plan on leaving them on all of the time, so I didn't want too harsh of a ride.

Kyle

By SOLO on Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 04:29 am: Edit

Kyle

What size and kind of tires do you have on there now. How much meat is left on them?

Larry

By John_C on Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 04:30 am: Edit

Carl, give me a call at work (212) 530-6554.

By Glenn Guinto (Glenn) on Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 04:52 am: Edit

John,

I'll call you about Ringwood...

Glenn

By Kyle Beckman (Kbeckman) on Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 12:03 pm: Edit

Larry,

I had 255/65-16. Like a idiot, I didn't rotate them enough, so I got some bad wear. They've got some meat left on them, but not necessarily in the right places. I'm keeping the spare tire. It never touched the road. I figure it might be worth something, so I'm going to try and sell it.

Kyle

By Clarance on Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 05:04 pm: Edit

Hey, I'm free dec. 2, and i promise not to hog all the mud this time ;)

By Brian Fransson (Brian) on Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 07:30 pm: Edit

Looks like i'll be free on that day too. Add me to the list.
Cheers
Brian