By Mike on Wednesday, May 30, 2001 - 10:49 pm: Edit

I am looking for input from other Disco owners who have extended their brake lines after putting on a RoverTym 2" lift.

Thanks in Advance,
Mike

By RVR OVR (Tom) on Wednesday, May 30, 2001 - 11:23 pm: Edit

Did you get the long shocks and articulation cones? If so, then you need them. The need is more of a function of how much your axle drops down than the lift.

Tom

By MTB on Wednesday, May 30, 2001 - 11:26 pm: Edit

Mike
I run 2" BM springs if you keep your sway bars connected you should be ok without extending your lines. Disconnect the sway bar better be safe than sorry replace them.

Michael B

By E Snyder on Thursday, May 31, 2001 - 01:43 am: Edit

With spring retainers in place, drop kit for shocks, and sway bar off, OME HD springs (2" lift or so) extend just to the end of the brake lines. It does put tension on them. A faster drop on the trail that really downflexed the springs would possibly put too much, although I haven't had any trouble so far. I haven't tried yet, but maybe the bracket that holds the top of the lines could be lowered a bit to provide the slack. I've just had a hard time getting my brakes back up to speed when I change lines. Bleeding, adjusting, etc. Anyone tried lowering the bracket to provide an extra inch or two of slack? Or where should I get extended brake lines? Thanks.

By Bill on Thursday, May 31, 2001 - 02:22 am: Edit

For what its worth, a LR mechanic told me yesterday the brackets could be moved to allow for more slack.

By Greg Davis on Thursday, May 31, 2001 - 08:47 am: Edit

I just installed the RoverTym 3" springs this weekend, along with a set of $G extended lines. I was very disappointed with the brake lines as they are only about 1.5" longer than stock. That would be enough with the 2" lift, but for the $ (over $200!), I would have expected longer lines. John and I are working together to come up with a kit for the DSII's, and these lines won't allow for the extra flex of disconnected sways, drop cones, etc.

By Ron on Thursday, May 31, 2001 - 09:19 am: Edit

Greg,

Send them back! Also call Paragon Performance and tell them the specs you want and they will make a set and then sell the set to others. Thats how long brake line kits get made.

As for everyone else

http://www.discoweb.org/alyssa/brakeline2.jpg

Need I say more?

Ron

By Blue Gill (Bluegill) on Thursday, May 31, 2001 - 11:37 am: Edit

With OME MD rear (~2" lift) and rear sway bar removed, will I have to extend brake lines? I WILL have that rear axle articulating to it's max potential, but I'll only mess with extending stock lines if I absolutely have to, I don't give a shit about the coolness factor...maybe I can just adjust retaining bracket for an extra inch of slack? (good idea, btw)

By Chris Dillard (Cdillard) on Thursday, May 31, 2001 - 12:14 pm: Edit

I'm running the OME HD all the way around and I just installed the Rovertym cones, shockmounts & Rancho 9000's on my Disco (BTW quick and simple install @ about 2.5hrs). I also got my SS rear brake lines from JBS (about$30 each) They were definately needed. If I had done any wheeling with the stock lines and the new suspension they would have snapped pretty quickly. It only cost me $100 to have them installed along with having my brake system bled and filled. Took the mechanic about 30 minutes to complete as well.

Cheers,
Chris

By Jeff Bieler (Mrbieler) on Thursday, May 31, 2001 - 12:19 pm: Edit

If you're running the stock shock mounts and the OME shocks, I don't believe you will have any issues. I've tried to twist up my rear axle (before and after sway bar removal) as much as possible and things look ok. The OME shocks don't have the long throw of the Ranchos, Black Diamond, etc.

Jeff

By Blue Gill (Bluegill) on Thursday, May 31, 2001 - 12:48 pm: Edit

Thanks for the info - I know that I'd definitely need to extend if I went all-out like Chris, but things look OK with OME on stock mounts and sway bar attached. What I don't want to do is remove sway bar and snap lines out on the trails...based on what Jeff is saying, I think remove sway bar and watch lines closely when I start dropping wheels in holes out in the field. Thanks again.

By Greg Davis on Thursday, May 31, 2001 - 12:57 pm: Edit

Ron, thanks for the info. I am sending them the stock lines with required extension lengths (5"). They are going to do a proto set and will then offer them for DSII's. Will be MUCH cheaper than $G and will still be SS and DOT approved. Thanks again!

By david b. on Thursday, May 31, 2001 - 01:50 pm: Edit

Greg, do you have a Rovertym lift on your Disco 2?

By Mike R. on Thursday, May 31, 2001 - 02:34 pm: Edit

I just ordered SS brake lines today from Rover Accessories for $33/line. Make sure thath when you order them you get the right ends on the lines. Some lines have male fittings and some have female.

By Greg Davis on Thursday, May 31, 2001 - 05:31 pm: Edit

David, John and I are working together to come up with a kit for the DSII's. I'm basically doing the R&D as he sends me parts. Right now I have his 3" springs. You can look at the pics in my gallery, or just go under News and look at my most recent gallery update. We're still playing with spring heights and rates right now. Once that's sorted out, we'll look at rear cones, corrected arms, etc. His 3" coils gave me 3" in the rear and almost 5" up front, so we're going to try a different length up front. It's all in the infancy stages right now, but they will be out as soon as all the details are finalized.

By Mike on Thursday, May 31, 2001 - 09:01 pm: Edit

Thanks everyone for the posts. I am running Rancho 9234's in the back and I have the RoverTym drop kit and the RoverTym 2" springs. I also disconnect the rear anti-sway bars when off-roading. I get an extra 6" of travel with the shocks. The rear wheel will drop completely out of the rear wheel well.

How long should the extended brake lines be?

Thanks
Mike
98 Discovery

By Mike on Thursday, May 31, 2001 - 09:09 pm: Edit

Here is a picture of my Disco flexing. By my estimation, I have about 2" of additional drop left. Any suggestions on how long I should extend the brake lines?

Thanks,
Mike

By david b. on Thursday, May 31, 2001 - 10:15 pm: Edit

WOW, that is some mad flex! Do you have the upper and lower shock mounts, trailing links from Rovertym?

By Mike on Friday, June 01, 2001 - 12:07 am: Edit

Nope. That is the beauty of it. I have the upper shock mounts only. Very cheap! Very flexible!

Mike
98 Disco

By Ricky Rowan on Friday, June 01, 2001 - 12:24 am: Edit

Hi Greg,
I have a 3" lift on my series2.The kit was developed with the help of an Australian spring manufacturer & shock designer.If I can help with any data and/or specs including extended street legal stainless braided brake lines with plug in abs line extensions let me know.

Regards
Rick

By Greg Davis on Friday, June 01, 2001 - 06:29 am: Edit

Rick, thanks for the offer. I would be interested on knowing how the ABS/ETC lines were extended. Is it a simple matter of selecting the correct guage of wire and soldering on an extension, or is there something else that I should know about? Also, how about some pics!

By david b. on Friday, June 01, 2001 - 03:10 pm: Edit

Rockware extended brake lines-$25

By Discosaurus on Friday, June 01, 2001 - 03:20 pm: Edit

Mike, what size bumpstops are you running with
those 9234's ??

keith
discosaurus

By Mike on Friday, June 01, 2001 - 08:47 pm: Edit

That picture was taken using the stock bumpstops. I have since put on a set of 3.5" bump stops from SafariGard. I will be putting on the taller tires next week to see of the taller bump stops will make a difference or not.

Thanks,
Mike

By david b. on Friday, June 01, 2001 - 08:50 pm: Edit

what size tire are you running now?

By Mike on Friday, June 01, 2001 - 08:53 pm: Edit

Here is a picture of the 'stuffed' side: