By LR Max on Tuesday, June 26, 2001 - 12:14 pm: Edit

I went to Barnes and Nobles today to have a look at their new LR Mags. They weren't worth buying. There was no off-roadin' in any of them, and a bunch of technical articles about Tdi's. Well I ain't got no Tdi, and I ain't got no Freelander or a D-130. So is there anyone out there that can free us from these idle mags!!??

By Blue Gill (Bluegill) on Tuesday, June 26, 2001 - 01:37 pm: Edit

Doesn't take much to start a mag or a company - just some initiative and hard work. I've done it before (consulting company, not a mag). There's obviously a need, let's fill it. Anyone interested in being my partner or partners?

It's all about earning the advertising money...if I can show a real enough interest, then investment capital is no big deal, and presto...North America has a Rover mag.

Only semi-serious inquiries, please...post here or email me offline.

By Paul on Tuesday, June 26, 2001 - 03:17 pm: Edit

I think Scam Across America is still taking orders! Errr, I mean Rovers Across America...

Anyone ever get their $25 back???

By MTB on Tuesday, June 26, 2001 - 03:44 pm: Edit

Paul
No money back for me ($35) in my case. I think they screwed anyone who would like to start up any LR Mag. in the future. I know I will not send in any $ until it out on the news stand.

Michael B

By twodogs on Wednesday, June 27, 2001 - 03:02 am: Edit

I run a 3.9 V8 in the uk I love it but the fual prices make you want to cry.
a TDi for most people in england is the only way i think most have not driven a V8.
as for the magazines i have learnt more from disco web in about three week than ten years of landrover mags thank you all .
whats the 4.2 V8 like ?

By Ron on Wednesday, June 27, 2001 - 03:43 am: Edit

whats the 4.2 V8 like ?

Does not make one bit of difference as the LWb negates most of the power advantage with its extra weight. I found the 95 SWB i test drove to be a smidge faster than the 95 LWb I test drove. Now a 99 and up 4.6 HSE w/ thor that might be mistaken for something other than a slow *ss british truck.

Ron

By Blue Gill (Bluegill) on Wednesday, June 27, 2001 - 06:23 am: Edit

what is (was) Rovers Across America? Sounds like a bad deal...

By Paul on Wednesday, June 27, 2001 - 07:27 am: Edit

BlueGill, RAA was supposed to be the premier Rover magazine for north america. A couple of years ago they had a big ad campaign to sign up and after months and years of some type of promise they went away, with all of our money no less. I did get a tshirt from them, but I think my wife uses them to clean the toilet bowls.

By Jon Williams (Jonw) on Wednesday, June 27, 2001 - 09:39 am: Edit

I seem to remember them. I didn't fall for it, as I already subscribed to LROI (which I think is now called something else?) but it sucks they took a lot of other people.

By Blue Gill (Bluegill) on Wednesday, June 27, 2001 - 09:44 am: Edit

That really sucks. But that doesn't mean that NA still can't have an HONEST mag...

By ktm on Wednesday, June 27, 2001 - 10:01 am: Edit

Even if someday someone comes up with a magazine, it'll still be just waste of paper. As you can get more action and information on the web than any magazines combined.

By glenn on Wednesday, June 27, 2001 - 10:07 am: Edit

We all (US LR Owners) share the same frustrations my friends. We were already deprived of the vehicles, we're also deprived of the magazines. This Su#%s! Blue Gill is right, starting one is not that hard, and I'm sure there's enough companies out there that can advertise. As far as content is concerned, I think we all know the answer to that one. - just look at how much content Discoweb gets. Hmmm... do I smell a DiscoWeb hard copy every month?

By Ron on Wednesday, June 27, 2001 - 10:15 am: Edit

You are unfamiliar with DISCOHO?

The original online Disco magazine?

Ron

By Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) on Wednesday, June 27, 2001 - 10:17 am: Edit

Its a waste of paper. This format is more dynamic then paper , we can change it in a second, there is no mailing (I hate mail) and you dont ahve to buy anything. The items that we will sell here and there ,are not things you are forced to buy but the revenue will be used mostly to make more out of the site. How can you ask for more?

Kyle

By Axel Haakonsen (Axel) on Wednesday, June 27, 2001 - 10:20 am: Edit

If DiscoWeb were to do a hardcopy, I don't think it would be a monthly, maybe a quarterly. Anyway, we have to sell a lot of stickers before we get to the point where we can seriously consider doing a magazine...

By gil on Wednesday, June 27, 2001 - 10:31 am: Edit

..why dont you guys sell more products on this site, or at least act as distributors...im sure you can make more than your investment in the site back..i know id rather buy from enthusiasts then some marketing clowns. If discoweb backs it up, it probably works pretty well. I bet Kyle can move some of those slick bumpers. Im sure rovertym could move products like mad on this site with all the plugs they get..safarigard on the otherhand, ummm probably not...

By glenn on Wednesday, June 27, 2001 - 10:49 am: Edit

I guess Kyle is right. This is more dynamic than a hard copy will ever be. Axel's point about making some money first before being able to print even a quarterly is very true. Man - that's an awful lot of stickers to sell! I also know that commercializing discoweb is not the intention. It could be an enthusiasts' newsletter for a lack of a better term. But, whatever it is, someone please produce a magazine for North American LR enthusiast! I already came up with a cover if it helps!... :-)

By Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) on Wednesday, June 27, 2001 - 10:52 am: Edit

Gil , we are working on that but it takes time. Since we all have regular jobs its tough. You will see that in the future. As far as selling for other vendors is concerned we have kept away from that on purpose. If we did that we would be "Selling out" in a way. There are things out there that are good and some that are just plain useless , some vendors sell both and we would have to take the good with the bad. That aint happening.
Expedition Exchange and Rovertym are very solid vendors both adressing different ends of the market. Things you will see here for sale in the future will hopefully just fill the little holes in the middle. You cant go wrong with either of those vendors . Both buisnesses are run by good friends of mine and very Honorable people..

Kyle

By Axel Haakonsen (Axel) on Wednesday, June 27, 2001 - 10:56 am: Edit

It's a balancing thing. DiscoWeb started as an enthusiast site which eventually took on a life of it's own. We all have full time jobs elsewhere, we never intended for DiscoWeb to become our full time jobs (allthough it would be nice if it happened some day)
As Kyle said, the money from the stickers just goes to pay for running the site, so that Kyle, Ho and I don't have to pay everything out of our own pockets. For example, Discoweb is on a dedicated server now, it has it's own T1 line and so on. Your typical $14.95/month hosting pacakage don't cut it anymore...
We do have plans to sell more items from the site, but it will happen slowly. Our main thing is that whatever we sell through the site would have to be something we would want to buy ourselves, and we don't want to be too commercial, either. DiscoWeb is and always will be an enthusiast site.
The next items for sale will most likely be the Extra Large DiscoWeb stickers that fit on the quarter panels (prototypes seen in some Moab and Pine Barrens shots), and we are also planning to have a full length vhs version of this years Moab video available for sale soon, if there is any interest for that.

By Ron on Wednesday, June 27, 2001 - 11:02 am: Edit

full length vhs version of this years
Moab video available for sale soon

How does it compare to the Malaysian Challenge, or better yet Trans Canada 92? Do you kill any fish? any rovers lost in a lake? Count me in for some big stickers if nothing else.

Ron

By Blue Gill (Bluegill) on Wednesday, June 27, 2001 - 11:10 am: Edit

there's one thing a mag is good for that the www isn't...unless you have a computer in your bathroom...

By gil on Wednesday, June 27, 2001 - 11:10 am: Edit

what you both said makes alot of sense. Kyle, I didnt really consider "the good with the bad", but that is a good point. I like what expedition exchange is doing. this thing really has taken on a life of its own. its no longer uncommon to see posts out of australia, UK, etc. have you gotten any international sticker orders yet? Id buy the videos just to support the site as im sure others would to. I actually met someone last week that i knew thru the discoweb, nothing else. of course we both use discoweb "alias" (for different reasons) but to meet some one and say " oh hey man, ive seen you on discoweb" was pretty strange. You guys are sitting on a huge thing here and id like to see it grow even more. this has literally become the defintive disco resourse on the web. good luck with the future plans.

By Ron on Wednesday, June 27, 2001 - 11:10 am: Edit

Print out the discussion and bring them in with you.

Ron

By Blue Gill (Bluegill) on Wednesday, June 27, 2001 - 11:18 am: Edit

I could do that, Ron, and if I added some glossy pictures, I'd have a.......magazine!

By Axel Haakonsen (Axel) on Wednesday, June 27, 2001 - 01:04 pm: Edit

How does it compare to the Malaysian Challenge, or better yet Trans Canada 92?

Ron, you probably already have seen the preview of The Moab '01 video, if not here it is:

http://www.discoweb.org/video/moab2001tr1.rm

There will also be a second preview available when the tape is ready.

I have about 15 hours of mostly digital footage, and it will be edited down to fit on a 2 hour tape, using Adobe Premiere. (Video is another hobby of mine) I think the footage we have is pretty good, but of course I am not entirely objective. As for how it stacks up against the Malayan challenge and Trans Canada, well, it shows Rovers in Moab, doing some of the most famous trails there, i.e Poison Spider Mesa/Golden Spike/Gold Bar Rim and Pritchett Canyon. Also this year, since the tape is being edited digitally, there won't be any generation loss when making copies of it, that is another reason why we felt we could offer the 2000 tape for sale. We haven't set a price for it yet.

By Bud on Thursday, June 28, 2001 - 02:18 am: Edit

I'd wear (and purchase) a Discoweb t-shirt and/or hat. And I don't mind paying a fair price to support the cause. Maybe a mouse pad. Spare tire cover. Sun shade.

Bud

By glenn on Thursday, June 28, 2001 - 05:00 am: Edit

DiscoWeb air fresheners? :-)

By Ron on Thursday, June 28, 2001 - 05:13 am: Edit

Axel,
I will buy whatever you sell (assuming it is not complete crap) to support the cause, even if you did not kill any fish in Moab (great part of trans canada 92 is the fish that was killed during a river (more like a lake) crossing.

As far as suggestions I would be particularly impressed with a discoweb hat with a pony tail hair extention so in addition to having cool stuff I can look cool too.

http://discoweb.org/moab2000/kyle/img026.jpg

hehehehe
Ron

By RVR OVR (Tom) on Thursday, June 28, 2001 - 05:27 am: Edit

Guys, this site could become a great online magazine. Right now, at least to me, it is more of a chat simply because we haven't done enough ourselves to prove otherwise. The Discoweb folks have provided a place for us to author technical articles, trail reports, and simply do more than just chit-chat. Sure, it would be nice to get a magazine about Discos in the mail. However, that costs money to make and buy and sooner that taints everything. It would be much nicer to see Discoweb explode with a lot more articles written by us for us. We have cameras, and obviously can write the english language. Next time you swap out a stepper motor, build a spreadsheet to compare suspension components, or do some serious research on tires, or tackle some fantastic new trails, take some snapshots and document it and send it in!

OK...down off the soap box now.

Tom

By Moe on Thursday, June 28, 2001 - 05:37 am: Edit

To look real cool you'll need some Discoweb Premium Wax

By John on Thursday, June 28, 2001 - 05:44 am: Edit

How about selling "air time" to venders with products outside of the rover world...things like "Simons Print Shoppe" or "Axles Inne" or "Good Ole Boys Peanuts" or "Ho's One Stop Saugage Factory". All the viewers that come here could possibly work for co's that could advertise or self employed users of the site could advertise their service/product. Kinda like a self help group thing.

By Bud on Thursday, June 28, 2001 - 09:54 am: Edit

Mud flaps. One with the DiscoWeb logo and the other with Kyle's picture so he can keep a watchful eye on us. ;>)

Oooh! What about one of those steering wheel knobs with the logo on it. That should help out when confronted at Truck Stops by gentlemen that don't like foreign vehicles.

Ramblin' Bud

By AintsFan on Thursday, June 28, 2001 - 10:57 am: Edit

DiscoWeb U. flags for cb antennas....

By Axel Haakonsen (Axel) on Thursday, June 28, 2001 - 04:13 pm: Edit

Thanks for the support, Ron. I'll borrow some of my wife's hair dressing equipment and try to get close to Kyle, that way you can get a genuine pony tail for that hat.....

By AL on Thursday, June 28, 2001 - 07:08 pm: Edit

Hi All,
You guys are doing a great job, im addicted to this site.
Id like to offer my help in any manner to help you guys keep site on and progress, count me in.
Stickers,t-shirts,mudflaps,videos,donations.
Let me know
GOOD LUCK

By garrett on Friday, June 29, 2001 - 02:27 am: Edit

not to take this discussion to a lower level, but DiscoWeb condoms?? think of all the 'exposure' that DiscoWeb could get. in all your favorite colors too; epsom green, beluga black, alpine white, oxford blue, rioja red and even the AA yellow, etc. i have tried using the LR genuine ones, but they break!!!!

By Rubberneck on Friday, June 29, 2001 - 04:04 am: Edit

With reservoirs for spillage and leakage....

By Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) on Friday, June 29, 2001 - 05:33 am: Edit

Easy with the pony tail thing man. Ax , you know you have no chance of getting that close...

Kyle

By Mike Cox on Monday, July 02, 2001 - 03:56 pm: Edit

I like the condom Idea, will they come in a SWB or LWB versions?