Go with the Warn Multi Mount, R. Tym, etc.etc.

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Disco Mike on Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 12:11 pm: Edit

I am about to switch from LR HD springs (1.5") lift (Rovers North) and Bilstein shocks (awesome for highway handling with a full roof rack) to Rover tym 3" lift. I never do anything without tons of research. I will not run the highway without the sway bars due to my beloved roof rack. John at Rover Tym makes a disconnect for the new bars. I am going from 245-75 mud tires to either 235-85 or Super swampers (32") and steel rims (see Tom Pearson's pics). I will keep the LR rims and 245s for town and light trips. I will not carry as much on the rack.
To all those about to buy a winch (not a wench), I did the research for you. The Warn Multi Mount is awesome! Swaps to the back in 60 seconds. Install the plug front and back. Make sure you are getting the new style (flat steel plate front and back, not the old style tube.The XD9000i is nice with a Disco.Macromotive was free shipping making it almost $200 less than 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) on Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 12:39 pm: Edit

The multi mount is a good system for someone that doesnt do much with thier truck. But I still cant understand why you would want it as your sole winch..

Kyle

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron on Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 12:58 pm: Edit

Ya,
I agree with Kyle on this one. Multimount on back is good, especially if you wheel alone and or have multiple trucks to use it on. Provided you have afront winch too. With it mounted you have like zero approach angle in front, ditto for rear. One advantage is that it gives you a great front reco point and it keeps the winch safe from vandals and weather. Then again you have to carry the thing to mount it when you need it. If I ever find the RR I am looking for I will probably put a front multimount on it since I have the winch already, custom made mount of course.

Ron

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Milan on Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 02:23 pm: Edit

I agree, too. If I were to do a multi mount, I'd make a custom one. The problem then becomes that XD8000 or XD9000 is OK to lug around but if you want a 10Klb winch or better, I want it on there permanently. I'm not going to struggle with 150lbs of steel (even if you use Amsteel Blue) everytime I go out and if I were, I'd put it on before the trip and not like my buddy does it - when the truck gets stuck. Then you're again stuck with deciding whether you put it on the front or back.

I think the ideal solution is to have a front mounted HD winch and a smaller portable to use in the rear when venturing out by yourself.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Axel Haakonsen (Axel) on Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 04:03 pm: Edit

I am with Kyle, Ron and Milan here. I would not want a multimount winch as my primary winch. I am not about to manhandle my Warn 12K every time I go wheeling. A smaller winch on a multimount would be nice for occasional use in the rear, though. But it would be in addition to the permanently mounted one.

Axel

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Mike on Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 10:07 pm: Edit

Are we talking about the winch that mounts in the 2" receiver hitch? Isn't the rear receiver rated at 5,000 pounds (with zero offset) and the winch rated at 8,000 pounds or so. Somehow this math doesn't add up. What am I missing?

Thanks,
Mike

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Christian P. Frezza on Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 11:52 pm: Edit

Okay. Quick question...I will be replacing my stock DII bumper with an ARB Bumper. I plan on installing and air bag version with a winch. I don't have the "jing" to get the winch right now but will sometime soon. Anyway, do I have to do anything else to the vehicle ie. suspension with the ARB installed or only after I then add the winch to the bumper do I THEN have to beef up the suspension? Also, which winch fits best in that particular bumper?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Mike on Wednesday, March 07, 2001 - 12:15 am: Edit

You don't HAVE to beef up the suspension after changing out the bumper. The nose of the vehicle will sit a little lower. If that doesn't bother you, then there is no need to upgrade right away. There is greater chance of bottoming out your suspension with the extra weight, but to my knowledge, that really won't hurt anything.

Of course, having said that, the big reason to put on a bumper in the first place is to use it off-road. The ARB sits a little lower than stock and coupled with the heavier weight, you will 'kiss' the gound more often and may get stuck more with the new bumper installed (if you don't go to taller springs). I am of the school that you should do upgrades a little at a time to see what difference each upgrade makes to the vehicle. Don't go too crazy about not having enough 'jing' to do everything at the same time. Most of us started small and worked up to where we are now.

Thanks,
Mike

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Disco Mike on Wednesday, March 07, 2001 - 03:05 am: Edit

You guys are wrong. Yes I cut and raised the Multi Mount about 2" but the approach angle is the same as your built in bumper. I can also take it off throw it in the back and have more approach than a built in. I use it a lot, winched a big Ford and a 109 out of mud with no problem. I have needed to winch back, facing down on a steep hill. Why not just cut your valance (half the air dam) rather than add a heavy bumper. The Multi Mount can lift my truck off the ground. The bracket has as many bolts to the frame as a bumper.Save your money and put lockers front and rear like I did. I'm off road all the time as part of my business, not a weekend warrior. It works great, try it you'll like it!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Axel Haakonsen (Axel) on Wednesday, March 07, 2001 - 08:22 am: Edit

You didn't say anything about modifying your multi-mount in your earlier post. If it works for you, that's fine, stick with it. But if you are going to declare your solution as the end-all-be-all, then you should include all the facts.
I still prefer a permanently mounted front winch, but that it my choice. Maybe that's not the right solution for you, but that does not mean it is the wrong solution for me. It all boils down to personal preference, and how you use the truck.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Disco Mike on Wednesday, March 07, 2001 - 12:44 pm: Edit

Axel,

I never said it was the "end-all-be-all". I said it worked great. Go back and look at my post and the following posts, you guys slammed me. The right/wrong attitude came from the posts subsequent to mine. Sounds like welcome to Discoweb, now go home.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) on Wednesday, March 07, 2001 - 12:52 pm: Edit

No , the feed back that followed was all accurate. Should we sugar coat for you? We have always tried to be accurate no matter how it ended up sounding. The fact is that the multimount is not as good for many reasons. Should I explain? How about this one? That winch you are carrying in the back of the disco there and the mount wieghs quite allot , what happens when you are somewhree going down a 45-50 degree slope and that big bitch comes unglued from the back? It wont be pretty.....

Kyle

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Axel Haakonsen (Axel) on Wednesday, March 07, 2001 - 03:56 pm: Edit

Disco Mike:

I did reread your posts. Let me quote: "I never do anything without tons of research." and "To all those about to buy a winch (not a wench), I did the research for you." That certainly tries to build up what follows as being the ultimate solution. And it might very well be, for you. But don't expect the rest of the world to just get in line and agree with you. That is the way this board works, someone posts an opinion, and if somebody disagrees, they will say so.

Nobody is telling you to go away, you are free to post your opinions anytime. A word of advice, though: Winches and the Safari Gard 3 link are hot topics, expect to get some opiniated replies. If you can't deal with that you know how the saying goes: "If you can't take the heat....."

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Slider on Wednesday, March 07, 2001 - 08:19 pm: Edit

OK...same subject (kind of), different concern...

I'm awaiting a Disco I air bag ARB bumper.
I'm a bit concerned about the way a winch (x9) actually mounts (sort of) under it and out of sight...some cutting and welding might be neccessary to create a window to observe spooling.
Well, we'll see when I get it...

Anyhow, does the mounting apparatus (Bumper to chassis) actually slide into the open end of the chassis or sleeve (if you will) over it, sandwiching the chassis. And does this bumper have up and down play with the full force of the vehicle. I expect to be able to stand on that thing and do a jig come March 17th...and I want this ARB to become one with my chassis.

Is anyone with me on this.

I'll see when it's here in a few days, but I'm afraid of these crumple (accordian like) zones really hampering strengh and intergrity of the system...

I'm already having second thoughts and it's not even here yet.

Please, someone reassure me that I've made a logical decision.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Mike on Wednesday, March 07, 2001 - 09:10 pm: Edit

I have seen the new ARB bumper in action. The crumple zones are just like the ones on your stock bumper (maybe a little longer). The ARB mounts just like your existing bumper. We pulled a couple of folks out using the bumper with no problems. That's not to say that there will or won't be problems. Also, he kissed the ground hard a couple of times and the bumper did not move. ARB makes great products and you can be assured that it will work as designed. Is it better than the original? Probably not. Will it give you years of trouble-free reliable service? Probably yes.

Thanks,
Mike

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Jake on Thursday, March 08, 2001 - 10:18 am: Edit

Anybody using or has seen the Terrain Master bumper? Saw it on their site, and looks pretty good and clean. Wondering how it works. Price seems to be right too.


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