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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Wesley on Monday, July 02, 2001 - 10:38 am: Edit

How deep can I go without getting water into everything and having to mount a snorkel and axle breather extensions?
Thanks in advance,
Wesley
Any Disco Limbos out there?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron on Monday, July 02, 2001 - 10:45 am: Edit

Ha!

Just saw two rangies hydrolock on Sat. Playing in water is a bad idea. 2ft should be the safe operating limit (they say 20inches). Basically its the computer under the seat that is the limiting factor (though the rangies got water in through the air box). You can go deeper but if you stop and the water comes in you are SOL when it hits the ECU.

Ron

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) on Monday, July 02, 2001 - 10:50 am: Edit

So who hit the water wide open Ron? :)

Kyle

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron on Monday, July 02, 2001 - 11:05 am: Edit

They weren't wide open it was just a 2ft puddle with a four foot hole in the center. A D90 made it through along the side (missed the hole) Then a disco, he got his right front in the hole and bends the crap out of his bumper and nearly (farthest I have ever seen a Disco go) rolls (he was going too fast). Then we try it in the disco, hit the hole, I realize we are in deep shit as I see water coming on the drivers door and I pull the shifter into reverse while alyssa is driving and tell her to floor it. We almost got stuck (love them Trutrac) but we backed out ok. We then made it around the side of the hole. Next guy in a 95 swb goes through the center noses in truck stalls and luckily he ends up with his rear in the hole (water line is somewhere near the top of the lower tailgate as the EAS ate shit when he stalled. Well we pull him out with the disco and as soon as we do a 95 NBS goes through and does the same frigging thing. I let a TJ pull him out. The first guy I can understand as it was close the second guy I was poed but I still helped pull the plugs (the amount of water out of #6 was amazing it sprayed like 30ft when he hit the starter. Good news is they both made it and the DI with the bent bumper is taking our old stock one out of the basement. I can't give names as I would like to stay in these people's good graces but I will have pics for Ho in the near term future. The two of them sitting there with hood up is the best.

Ron

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By E Snyder on Monday, July 02, 2001 - 11:06 am: Edit

I have played this game and lost. It is a very bad game. Luckily I didn't hydrolock from engine turning over with water coming in the air intake. Inertia switch shut the truck off before that could happen. Just fried lots of electronics, because it sat in the water for some time.
You can drive through water as deep as your headlights. But you need to maintain a bow wave, you have to maintain a consistent speed, and you can't go forever. The bow wave shouldn't go much higher than the hood. In older trucks you can take off the fan belt and it helps, but not with the modern marvel that is the serpentine belt. Series landrovers have a high air intake, and it goes through an oil bath. Very good for slowing down water. Disco air intake is right behind the headlight, and points forward! Not the greatest. When it comes to wading, discretion is the better part of valor.
If you wade a lot, you should replace diff fluids more often, and check grease or 90wt in ball joints. I like 90wt over grease because you can maintain it. If you have a winch that is underwater much, you should run it to dry it out.
Anyone else have good tips for wading? Has anyone greased their spark plugs to prevent water infiltration? There are also different ways to seal up distributor caps.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron on Monday, July 02, 2001 - 11:09 am: Edit

If it is really deep and you HAVE to go through drive backwards.

Ron

no joke

Also put a sock over the air horn and tie it w/ a rubber band, duct tape the door seals, cardboard in front of the grill

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Blue Gill (Bluegill) on Monday, July 02, 2001 - 11:20 am: Edit

what are you guys talking about with duct taping the door seals? do you mean from inside the truck (have to retape after you open the door)?

I also like the sock on the airhorn - reminds me of a Red Hot Chili Peppers poster I had in college :)

Hey - AM radio is joking about the "D147" Rhino roll-over right now as I type!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By nadim on Monday, July 02, 2001 - 11:26 am: Edit

For my V8i...this is what i did:

1. jacob electronic (JE) wires have waterproofing on them
2. scilicone sealed the distributer
3. JE coil that is waterproof and vibration proof and bla bla bla...
4. planning to install my snorkel
5. extended breathers for everything
6. wading plug

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Mike B. on Monday, July 02, 2001 - 05:45 pm: Edit

Nadim:

Do you have a Diesel? I had the understanding that wading plugs were only for the diesels.

Thanks in advance,
Mike B.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By al hang on Monday, July 02, 2001 - 06:12 pm: Edit

wading plugs are for manual transmissions only

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By E Snyder on Tuesday, July 03, 2001 - 03:03 am: Edit

I like the sock over the airhorn idea. My Series truck has a rubber fitting over the distributor cap which seems to work well. Haven't looked for one on the Disco. Silicone would probably work better. The newer your door seals are the better, too. The older ones (like my 95) are starting to fatigue and don't seal as tightly as they used to.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By nadim on Tuesday, July 03, 2001 - 03:53 am: Edit

Mike B.
I have a V8i petrol...Land Rover never made a V8 diesel (now that is a topic!)...
The wading plug is for my LT77-S manual transmission...you see, there is a whole in the bottom of the clutch housing that permits excess oil to run out...well, this whole allows water to enter the clutch housing, and burn out the clutch...
I learnt the hard way...was crossing a river in spring thaw in 1999, with water entering at side-mirror level!...well, the clutch left me at the middle of the river...since then, got not one, but two wading plugs to make sure that I'll definitely have one!
:)
Nadim

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By simon on Tuesday, July 03, 2001 - 04:40 am: Edit

nadim the tranny is an r-380 the tranfer is a LT-77
would you share the size of the plug?

thanks

Simon

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron on Tuesday, July 03, 2001 - 04:45 am: Edit

wading plugs are for manual transmissions only

Early autos have them as well (but not US discos)

nadim the tranny is an r-380 the tranfer is a LT-77 would you share the size of the plug?

LT 230 is the T-box, LT 77 is the early tranny. No plug on the T-box, the tranny would have hte plug on the mount.

Cheers
Ron

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Simon on Tuesday, July 03, 2001 - 05:03 am: Edit

oopps.. sorry nadim.. I completely got that one wrong!!!

one thing also is not to shift when wading..

so a plug for the r-380? exist?

what size plug you use for the clutch housing?

interesting

Simon

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Discosaurus on Tuesday, July 03, 2001 - 06:05 am: Edit

There is no plug available for the R380 (and
only a tiny hole - to let the oil leaking from
the rear main seal out, hehehe).

keith
discosaurus

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Bill Bettridge (Billb) on Tuesday, July 03, 2001 - 06:30 am: Edit

Also - LR has a factory rubber boot that fits over the coil on pre-coilpack Disco's - not the greatest, but every little bit helps. It was not standard at first, but I think (not sure) became so later in the NAS builds

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By nadim on Tuesday, July 03, 2001 - 08:55 am: Edit

Simon...
The '94 and up trannies are R-380 (Reverse next to 4th)...I have the LT-77-S - pre'94 (Reverse next to 1st)...they are said to be stronger, but harsher...and they were fitted to some NAS D90s.
The T-Box is an L230T, and that is mainly common on the Disco/Def range...
Thanks,

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By nadim on Tuesday, July 03, 2001 - 08:56 am: Edit

(sorry simon answered before seeing other post)
:)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By nadim on Tuesday, July 03, 2001 - 09:01 am: Edit

Ron,

For my LT-77 I asked RN, and they sent me the wading plug (I got 2 as i said before)...I donno for the R-380...as for the part number...ERC 7295 I think...

The rubber boot is useless, since it may allow for moisture which will not be good...silicone the whole thing...I swear, a tube of blue silicone, rubber disposable gloves, and have fun

Good luck...

Nadim


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