By DeanBrown3D on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 11:09 am: Edit

Warn makes a receiver-mounted winch cradle. Has anyone ever used this type of winch system? Can two people (me, and one nervous wife) lift it up and attach it easily? I guess it can also go on the front if you have a front receiver?

By Ron on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 11:12 am: Edit

Yes,

I have it. Never used it yet. YOu could lift it with one person no problem.

Ron

By Marc on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 01:52 pm: Edit

The Warn Multi-Mount. I am intrigued by this little gizmo too - what is the word on it?

Some thoughts/concerns I had:
It seems that it might last a great deal longer since you could keep it in the cargo area or your garage when not in use - not nearly as much exposure to the elements.
If your reciever is tied into the frame somehow it might be a more stable winch point?
Are you limited to a lighter weight winch? Warn sells it by itself and packaged with their 8000 lb. winch.
It uses a class III hitch - is that what the rear hitch that comes stock on a disco is?

Any comments from guys that have used or seen them in action?

By Mike B. on Wednesday, July 11, 2001 - 04:32 pm: Edit

I think receiver mounted winches can be very dangerous in the wrong set of hands. They will work under certain circumstances, but you need to be aware of their limitations. So, if you are really wanting to do this, here are some issues to wrestle with:

1. How do you plan to tie down the winch in the back of your Disco? It's going to weigh a over 100 lbs (depending on model). In an accident, it's going to go through anything in it's way. A little help form the math wizards: What kind of force would we be looking at if we accelerated 120 lbs to 60 mph?

2. As soon as you mount it on your Disco, you will loose a ground clearance and your departure angle will suffer.

3. When you need it, it may be pretty difficult to hook it up since there is a good chance the front receiver hitch will be burried in deep mud or under water.

4. Most winches run using #2 or #0 guage wire because they draw a ton of current. If you plan to run the cables to the rear of your vehicle, then you will need even bigger cables (due to the longer distance). Too small of cable, and you will not be able to operate the winch at anywhere near capacity and the cables will heat up pretty quickly. So, there is a risk of a fire. And where do you store all that cable?

5. One of the hardest winching situations is an off-set pull. This is where you have to recover your vehicle at an angle due to a lack of a suitable anchor directly in front of your vehicle. The reciever hitches are mainly designed for a straight line pull. The front receiver hitch sits back between the frame horns (versus attached to the ends). In an offset pull, this will be like putting a great big pry bar between the frame rails and prying with 8,000 lbs of force. So, if you get stuck, be sure to find something either directly in front of your or directly behind you to use as an anchor.

6. A good number of winching situations end up needing to use a snatch block to double up the cable. This effectively doubles the capacity of your winch. With a receiver mounted winch, where do you hook the cable to?

I'd recommend getting a blade type bumper (no brush bar) if you are worried about the changing the looks of your Disco. The only one that I can think of at the moment that looks really stock is the SafariGard blade, however, there are lots of other versions out there that are cheaper and may be better suited to your needs.

Thanks,
Mike B.

By David on Thursday, July 12, 2001 - 03:31 am: Edit

This subject is somewhere in the archives. Mike B. has some good points. However the biggest point, is that the limit for a Class III hitch is not nearly enough when compared to a 8000 or 9000 winch. I can't rememebr what the exact limits on the hitchs are..

By Ron on Thursday, July 12, 2001 - 03:57 am: Edit

However the biggest point, is that the limit for a Class III hitch is not nearly
enough when compared to a 8000 or 9000 winch. I can't rememebr what the
exact limits on the hitchs are..

Common misconception. the limit is for towing a 7700 or 5500 lb trailer at 65 mph and stoping and accelerating. The winch won't hurt it. A winch mounts with 4 5/16bolts, are you telling me the reciever is weaker than that?

Ron

By David on Thursday, July 12, 2001 - 04:01 am: Edit

I'm not sure Ron. It may be my misconception, however I wouldn't trust it personally.

By Kevin D on Sunday, July 15, 2001 - 05:43 am: Edit

2. As soon as you mount it on your Disco, you will loose a ground clearance and your departure angle will suffer.

Do you mean like this? ebay item #593180517

By Kevin D on Sunday, July 15, 2001 - 05:54 am: Edit

ebay link

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=593180517

"Extreme Off-Road Vehicle. Brand New Warn HS9500i Winch with custom multi-mount. Custom front Bumper with two hella lights. Brand new Uniroyal Larado Lug 245/75 Tires. Roof rack with Two Hella Lights. Ladder on rear. Heavy Duty springs for lift. Inside is very clean with custom rubber floor mats. Leather seats. 6 CD changer with great stereo. Optional are 2 12" subwoofers in rear with amplifer and custom box extra Charge."

By Wes Legaspi (Wes) on Sunday, July 15, 2001 - 07:03 am: Edit

huh?!?

By amazed on Sunday, July 15, 2001 - 07:18 am: Edit

By Jeff Bieler (Mrbieler) on Sunday, July 15, 2001 - 07:22 am: Edit

Not only is it a winch mount, but it's also serves as a cow catcher....

I liked it so much, I bought the company.

By Mike on Sunday, July 15, 2001 - 08:13 am: Edit

Well Guys,

I must chime in here.

First of all, most of the archive stuff about the Multi Mount was started by me. I have one and love it. I do a lot of hard wheeling with it, no problem. The archive is A to Z. The old subject starts like "Multi Mount Lives" or "Warn Multi Mount" you can find it there. All this stuff is covered. The above info is for the most part wrong. Angle pulls no problem, the pull rating for a class III is rated for road spikes to something like 20,000+ pounds. Also I know the guy selling the ebay truck. It has way more clearance than the photo shows. In fact the Multi Mount is cut and raised like mine. It's way above my front skid plate. I've never has a clearance problem. And no you don't drive around with in the back, DUHHHH. You put it on at home and take it off when you get back. I have used my winch (XD9000i) in the rear hitch in deep mud and it sure beats running a cable under the truck in the mud! I cut the stock bumper for max clearance, saved $$ on a heavy bumper and used that money for lockers. By not having a heavy bumper up front I get and extra inch out of my lift. There is no talking me out of the Multi Mount.

By Dennis Faynberg on Wednesday, July 18, 2001 - 10:48 am: Edit

hi this is my disco II with dealer mounted front hitch. its high enough (per my request) to
only decrease approach angle by a few degrees.
ask Mike B. what sort of angles I cleared on
this one dirt bank on 07/15/01 Richloam FL trail.

http://www.discocrazy.org/images/Richloam_7_15_01/Scan851.jpg

http://www.discocrazy.org/images/Richloam_7_15_01/Scan872.jpg

By David on Wednesday, July 18, 2001 - 10:52 am: Edit

Dennis, can you take/post any pics that are more up close and in depth?

Thanks,
David

By Simon on Wednesday, July 18, 2001 - 11:06 am: Edit

Hey Dennis, I know you took a lot of pics please send them to Ho, I sent mine already but my photographer wasn't prepared..

specially when we almost drown.....

thnaks & later.

Simon.

By Dennis on Thursday, July 19, 2001 - 05:37 am: Edit

Hi Simon, hows that truck smelling %-) ?
I took only one sort of close of my truck,...
I think...
Getting the pics today I will post them tonight.
The hitch is mounted right in the middle of top part
of the bumper in the center of license plate space. it prodrudes through the bumper about 2 inches flush with bull bar. The hitch itself is bolted and sodered to the frame. It sits about
1 to inches below head lights

By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Monday, August 06, 2001 - 04:17 am: Edit

Dennis,

Dealer-mounted front hitch? Huh? They don't have a clue in NJ. Do you have a part number or a phone number I could call?

>> hi this is my disco II with dealer mounted
>> front hitch. its high enough (per my request) >> to only decrease approach angle by a few
>> degrees.

By Kent Westbrook on Monday, August 06, 2001 - 11:45 am: Edit

Dean,

"They don't have a clue in NJ"

Just out of curiosity, what dealer did you purchse your vehicle from? I agree with your assessment, by the way.

Kent

By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Tuesday, August 07, 2001 - 02:40 am: Edit

Kent,

Woodbridge (route 1).
The guy there (Mike) was great, helpful and enthusiastic. I tried Princeton earlier, but when I asked for an SD model, I got the feeling they were looking down at me for wanting the cheapy version and weren't really helpful. Fine - bye!

Dennis - where are these photos / details we are waiting for?

By Dennis on Thursday, August 09, 2001 - 08:28 am: Edit

Hi Dean, Kent.

I too come from Jersey (Ocean Twp in Monmouth county). Moved to FL 5 months ago because of my work. Sorry for confusion, when I said dealer
mounted I did not mean that it was a dealer offered accessory, part or kit. I "talked" them
into it for $700 :-). In the front of the vehicle,
it's frame is almost evenly aligned with the spot on the bumper where a license plate mounts. I asked them to mount a "raw" receiver onto the frame and expose it thru license mounting spot.
So the hitch protrudes through a square opening
in the top part of the bumper. The result is that it is sits just 1 or 2 inches lower than a bumper mounted winch.
However it took couple of more steps to perp the vehicle for "multi Mount" use. Dealer ran "Warn
quick connect" kits (really thic cables) to the
front and back receivers and installed a marine
on/off switch so that either front, back, front-and-back or neither sockets could be hot.
as it turns out Disco II rear bumper makes "Multi
Mount" not long enought to plug into rear receiver
so AtlanticBritish made a short receiver extention
for the rear (3-4 inches).

By Dennis on Thursday, August 09, 2001 - 08:29 am: Edit

I don't have any good photos though. Sorry ...

By Perrone Ford on Thursday, August 09, 2001 - 01:19 pm: Edit

Dennis,

Where in FL are you?

By Mike B. on Thursday, August 09, 2001 - 02:51 pm: Edit

Perrone,

Dennis lives in the Clearwater area.

Thanks,
Mike B.

By Dennis on Friday, August 10, 2001 - 01:52 pm: Edit

Yeah I am in Dunedin, next to Clearwater.

By Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) on Friday, August 10, 2001 - 02:16 pm: Edit

The thing that hasnt come up (Not sure why) is that a winch drum is on average 10" wide. The reciever is around 2". THis means that anytime the cable is pulling from anywhere aside from dead center is applying a load on the hitch that it really wasnt designed to take. Move the cable pull up or down and that adds a twist to it as well , so to speak... Dont like em..

Kyle