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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Monday, July 23, 2001 - 01:33 pm: Edit

Are there any stock-size Super Swampers (especially boggers) that can fit straight onto a stock Disco II? I want to buy a new/used set of steel wheels and tires, and not make any modifications. I kinda like the great angular stability of the stock car and don't want to add a lift or void the warrantee.

I would plan on using them only for occasional use, and keep my original wheels for work.

Thanks in advance,

Dean

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Robert Mann (Oldscout) on Monday, July 23, 2001 - 01:56 pm: Edit

Here ya go:
http://www.intercotire.com/

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Tuesday, July 24, 2001 - 03:57 am: Edit

Yes, ok there are lots of sizes, but I am not sure of the width of tire I can fit so that it will not rub into the side well wall. I just wanted to know if anyone has fitted these already without problem - the boggers in particular.

Also, is there some kind of wheel-nut circle diameter that I should know when I buy new wheels, or do most wheels with 5 nuts fit?

Dean

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Discosaurus on Tuesday, July 24, 2001 - 08:47 am: Edit

Chop away, lift and go with the TSL 34/9 !!

Ummmmmmm - thirtyfours.....:)

keith
discosaurus

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By nadim on Tuesday, July 24, 2001 - 09:32 am: Edit

Dean...
You are crawling up my alley!
I currently have the 265/80 16 TSL radials...and that will require 3" of lift...
As far as stock hight, I cannot help, but the most you can go in width before it starts rubbing on the inside rear spring towers is 6.5" from the face where the wheel is bolted to the differential case.
boggers are not really good for latteral support..so I would advise on going for TSLs...
I will currently go for 33x12.5x15 TSL bias ply...so thaqt is the best thing I can do for now...

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron on Tuesday, July 24, 2001 - 09:34 am: Edit

Dean, You "might" be able to run the 33x12.50 on a DII. Some others run 285 75 R16 and it is a similar size although you are going very wide with that.

Ron

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Tuesday, July 24, 2001 - 10:04 am: Edit

Ron - 33x12.50 on a stock DII with NO alterations?

Nadim - please excuse my ignorance, but I have never installed a lift, and don't really know what's involved.

Thanks

Dean

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By nadim on Tuesday, July 24, 2001 - 10:08 am: Edit

On DII...i do not have ANY experience...but my DI is lifter...that will allow for wider and taller tires...
Boggers are really wide...so your concern will be their width and not their hight!
I would advise you on getting an OME lift...quite easy, and then you can fit the 31" boggers i guess...

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron on Tuesday, July 24, 2001 - 10:18 am: Edit

Dean,

I was thinking with a 2in lift. But even then you will have issues.

Stock you can clear 265 75 R16 which is about a 32x10.50

Ron

PS join the DII email list

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron on Tuesday, July 24, 2001 - 10:19 am: Edit

Oh lift.

Remove old springs install new ones. You have now been lifted.

Ron

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By nadim on Tuesday, July 24, 2001 - 10:20 am: Edit

LOL
Ron...tell the guy the WHOLE truth...
"you want the truth...you CAN"T handle the truth!"
:)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Murray (Cdnrvr) on Tuesday, July 24, 2001 - 10:53 am: Edit

Dean - check under tech, Kyle wrote some great instructions on installing shocks and springs. Shouldn't be much different for a DII. That's all you will really need for 2" lift.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By nadim on Tuesday, July 24, 2001 - 11:00 am: Edit

Dean...
I would HIGHLY recommend you not going for the boggers...they are not good at all latterally...the TSL family kicks ass everywhere...

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By John on Tuesday, July 24, 2001 - 11:47 am: Edit

Also the outer bogger lugs crack and break off very easily from the soft compound...TSL...

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By nadim on Tuesday, July 24, 2001 - 11:50 am: Edit

yeah...
TSL are really the best...have tried the radials, the bias ply...not sure about the SSRs...wish there was a nice SX size...but none that we can use!:(

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Wednesday, July 25, 2001 - 02:32 am: Edit

Ok TSL then - seems the opinion is unanimous! So, Ron you are saying:

Stock you can clear 265 75 R16 which is about a 32x10.50

Again, this is without any mods right? I just don't want to void my warrantee.

Nadim - if I get the TSL, which is best the radials or the bias ply?

Thanks to everyone else too!

Dean

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron on Wednesday, July 25, 2001 - 03:05 am: Edit

Again, this is without any mods right? I just don't want to void my warrantee.

Yes, but depending on the dealer tires alone may void the warantee.

Ron

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Wednesday, July 25, 2001 - 04:54 am: Edit

Ron,

I don't understand - there is a whole page in the tech section on trimming the back wheel arch when installing 265 70 R16, which are smaller than the 265 75 R16 you are saying fits stock. I am intrigued!

Dean

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Robert Mann (Oldscout) on Wednesday, July 25, 2001 - 05:02 am: Edit

Anyone running the Trxus Mud Terrain from Interco?
It looks perfect for a disco. 265/75 are only 100.00 ea!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron on Wednesday, July 25, 2001 - 05:09 am: Edit

Dean,

The DII has bigger wheel arches than the DI. If you look at Bud's gallery you can see that 265 75s fit ok stock (I would remove my lower bumper but you don't have to). I am in your area if you want to go wheeling.

Ron

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By nadim on Wednesday, July 25, 2001 - 07:20 am: Edit

If you want to use them ONLY for offroad use, then get the bias, but if you plan on using them onroad as well, get the radials...

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By RVR OVR (Tom) on Wednesday, July 25, 2001 - 10:58 am: Edit

Bias Ply have a very short life span. Go with the radials if they will be your only set of tires or if your trail trips will include switching tires beforehand and driving a good distance to get there. All 5 tires will fit in the back for changing at the trail, but not much else will and it is a bit of a pain, especially if no good, flat surface is nearby. Plus, you will have to lock them up somewhere or drive around with those things in the back!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Thursday, July 26, 2001 - 02:10 am: Edit

I have narrowed (so far) to the following for my Disco II:

SS SX 29x10.5x15 (exactly stock height, 255/65/R16)

or

SS TSL 31x10.5x15 (31.3 inches high)

Hmmm... A tough choice....
Which should I go for?

Dean

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By nadim on Thursday, July 26, 2001 - 09:40 am: Edit

32x10.5x15 TSL radials...
the 29s are really small...

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Sean AzjeepRecovery on Thursday, July 26, 2001 - 09:21 pm: Edit

Lets put some hair on our chests, why dont you mount some 33x14.5x16, that way if they fit on your disco2 ill put them on mine!! I have 265-75 with no lift and have no problem with rubbing. But i have the ARb front bumper.
Oh, mine are bfg mt

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Friday, July 27, 2001 - 03:14 am: Edit

Ok last question: I will go for the SS TSL 31x10.5x15 (31.3 inches high) tires. Can anyone recommend me a set of cheap black steel wheels (15x8), or give me any advice - are there any peculiarities specific to Disco IIs? The US mags just show tons of 15x8s without any details on wheel nut spacings or flange distances. Are they all standard?

Thanks again

Dean

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron on Friday, July 27, 2001 - 03:31 am: Edit

Dean I would go for the 32x10.50 TSL radials or the 265 75 R16 SSRs (first choice if you are going to do any miles on them). tirerack.com has cheap 16 inch wheels for your truck at 50 a pop (ask for snow tire wheels. I highly suggest you join the DII list!!!!!! before making any major decisions.

Cheers
Ron

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Friday, July 27, 2001 - 03:58 am: Edit

Ron,

Thanks for the advice. What's the DII list?

Dean

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Kent on Friday, July 27, 2001 - 05:37 am: Edit

Dean,

Disco II Owners list over on yahoo. I think the link is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/disco2owners

Lots of info over there, I think that's what Ron's talking about.

Kent


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