By Steve (Steve2) on Thursday, August 02, 2001 - 06:41 am: Edit

hey guys-

in talking to my l/r centre... they claimed you could run this size with out a lift.
has anyone done this?
does changing to this tire really kill the mpg or is it the lift and this tire that does it?
i am assuming there would be minor trimming involved (mine is a series 1) in the rear wheel well?

sorry for all the questions - just want to get it 'right' from the start.

thanks in advance as always
steve

By Blue Gill (Bluegill) on Thursday, August 02, 2001 - 06:51 am: Edit

sure it'll fit, meaning you'll be able to re-mount the wheel after mounting the tire on the rim, but it'll rub. "Minor" trimming is a relative term - plan on taking a good bit off the rear fender behind the wheel. May also rub fender & sill behind front wheel.

By Steve (Steve2) on Thursday, August 02, 2001 - 07:17 am: Edit

hey bluegil

thanks for quick reply - i saw picks of your rig in the archieves and i can see that alot of sawing would need to be done in a non-lifted disco.

i am now thinking of just going to at's in stock size 235-70, xd size 225-75 or 245-70's as i just want a little extra grip on the trails without loosing too much on the highway.

steve

By MA on Thursday, August 02, 2001 - 07:21 am: Edit

How about some 245/70-16 BFGoodrich All-Terrain t/a KO tires. They are 7mm taller/10mm wider than stock. You probably don't need to trim with 245/70-16.

By Eric N (Grnrvr) on Thursday, August 02, 2001 - 07:36 am: Edit

I'm running 225/75 Dunlop Rover R/Ts and I didn't need to trim..

By Blue Gill (Bluegill) on Thursday, August 02, 2001 - 08:20 am: Edit

I ran 245/70 with stock susp & rarely rubbed passenger rear on those extreme stuffs. Rub wasn't bad enought to chew up fender. I have a 225/75 BFG AT spare, and it looked good on the axle. I'm thinking that 225/75 is a viable alternate to stock 235/70.

If you see my most recent pics, I'm still trimming the damn rear fenders. I'm going to suck it up and do the trim job that someone else posted a picture of - clamp a piece of wood on as a guide and zip off that whole corner. Now I have to find that picture again....

By Eric N (Grnrvr) on Thursday, August 02, 2001 - 08:26 am: Edit

There is also a wider range of tire choices in 225/75 compared to 245/70.

By peter matusov on Thursday, August 02, 2001 - 08:29 am: Edit

i had 245/75R16 mudders without any lift at first.
they rubbed badly at the rear, both against the rear corners of wheel wells and the seam at the top of a wheel well. They rubbed on speed bumps! on our first trip off road, i had to saw off the offending corners to avoid further damage.

now i use them with ~2" of lift (OME HD springs), and they still rub under full compression in the rear, but not requiring special attention.

fwiw,

peter

By Blue Gill (Bluegill) on Thursday, August 02, 2001 - 08:52 am: Edit

here's my full-color illustration of trim job (I work well with playdough, too):

By peter matusov on Thursday, August 02, 2001 - 01:31 pm: Edit

exactly where and how mine are trimmed.

peter