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By Chris Browne on Saturday, August 04, 2001 - 06:13 am: Edit

After a hard and heavy off angle pull last weekend, when I sunk Baron up to the frame and then nearly rolled it into three feet of water due to a non straight winch pull I knew that I'd have some work to do to correct the cable that bunched up badly on one side of the winch.
Dam if the darn thing isn't kinked on itself at least twice and the wires are visibly open in a couple of spots.
Even tried a pry bar to loosen some of the coils nada couldn't unspool more than 70 feet or so of cable
Short of cutting and replacing any ideas?

By Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) on Saturday, August 04, 2001 - 06:20 am: Edit

Hook it to something solid and back the truck up in low lock to get the rest off the drum. If it dont come off like that then break out the torch.. After the cable is off you can dress the cable back up with a small hammer and an anvil if its not frayed too badly.

Kyle

By John on Saturday, August 04, 2001 - 06:27 am: Edit

Nothing guaranted here but worth a try......Try hooking your cable to a tree with winch on free spool, then back up very slowly to free cable. If and when you free cable, hook again to a tree, put tension on cable with your truck, leaving at least 7/8 winds on drum, and take 2 heavy hammers using 1 as a backing and lightly hammer on twisted kinks which will help straighten the kinks somewhat. This will help the cable unless you are getting broken strands...replace cable if you have broken strands.

By Chris Browne on Saturday, August 04, 2001 - 06:30 am: Edit

Kyle I omitted to mention that I put a tree saver around a tree and truck into reverse and pulled with winch in disengaged mode to ensure no stress on the mechanicals several attempts (a little fearful of a breakage resulted in no movement whatso ever

By Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) on Saturday, August 04, 2001 - 06:53 am: Edit

Damn , so its on there pretty good then. You snatch a little? I mean just a little? What size cable?

Kyle

By kev on Saturday, August 04, 2001 - 08:58 am: Edit

Chris find a hill with tree use tree protector
and poss snatch strap at top and back down I have done it the extra force of the vehicle helps
a lot of guys here are using plasma rope now dont think i like it on rocks
but if it breaks you can tie it

By Moe on Saturday, August 04, 2001 - 06:57 pm: Edit

Some of the same shit happened to me today, but I think the kink is straight now. I pulled a locked Samurai about 120' up a hill and the wanker clearly ignored my instructions to let the winch do the work. He gased it a couple of times and as a result the wire coiled loosely then tightly and then crimped down on that loose shit. This is exactly 10mins after the Samurai owner tells me they don't need to carry winches on their rigs. LOL. Sure enough he was winched a second time, this time by a J**P

Chris, where you giving gas while winching and maybe causing this problem?

By Chris Browne on Sunday, August 05, 2001 - 09:12 am: Edit

I always use a light amount of gas to ease the strain on winch-something RN taught me - great till you get grip and loose it again...which I'm now guessing causes the kinks
Even with a couple of wraps around a tree some damage visible to tree.
I'm getting a new strap next week and will try again.
Thanks for the samurai story..guess they prefer to use someone elses winch

By Chris Browne on Sunday, August 05, 2001 - 09:20 am: Edit

Kyle its 5/16s as supplied by Ramsey on their Platinum 9500 should be able to see the shots of it getting me into trouble as soon as their are posted to this site

By Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) on Sunday, August 05, 2001 - 09:31 am: Edit

Its a bizzarre thing with winches. Its expensive and it makes you less "manly" if you break it out in some circles.
I think it all ties back into that "Obstacle seeker" and "Adventure seeker" thing. The funny thing that about that is more often then not its the "Adventure seeker" that has to winch some guy on the trail to get his ass out of a bind.
I know one thing for sure and that is pandimonium ussually breaks out when you get to the point where the trucks can no longer make progress on their own. Thats where you see pretty quick who is who...

Kyle

By Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) on Sunday, August 05, 2001 - 09:38 am: Edit

If its the cheap 5/16 and its kinked pretty bad I would probably just cut it off and toss it in the trash. If it got you out of one bind its already payed for itself..


Kyle