Dealer Installs Throw Out Bearing... BEWARE!!!

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Gabe on Monday, March 12, 2001 - 02:00 pm: Edit

I had a $1,300 Clutch job done by Land Rover Austin and am very dis-satisfied with the service. Since my truck has been in the shop more than on the go lately, I had a good freind (and mechanic) do the work instead to find the actual problem for the throw-out bearing failure. MAN! I'm upset... the thing was never greased in any way. From what he tells me, common sense dictates that an experienced mechanic would find a way to lube it before installing it. I'm heading over to Land Rover today to swap the part out. More info later on what they tell me... I had called them and they wanted me to take the vehicle in for warranty repair, but I know that they'll just screw it up again and again, so I decided to pay for it myself. Let's see if they'll warranty the frickin' part now. More later.
GABE

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By SG on Monday, March 12, 2001 - 05:31 pm: Edit

Hmmm...I'm not sure about lubing the throw-out bearing. On my R-380, it appears almost identical to the 'ferro-bestos' throw-out bearing on the '72 Series III, and that is not lubed at all.

That said, I recently had the clutch replaced, also, the whole bloody gearbox when the fifth/reverse layshaft failed under benign conditions. Figured as long as the box was out, replace the clutch (only 75k miles...). Anyway, i can *hear* the new throw-out bearing....

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Gabe on Monday, March 12, 2001 - 06:15 pm: Edit

You can hear it because LR does not recommend using any lube on it. Mine was melted away and everything was trashed. I walked into LR dealer and they were nice enough to replace it free of charge but the damage is done. They also let me know that they do NOT add any type of grease to the throw out bearing and that it is a "Sealed" unit. THEREFORE::: Since they intend it to be sealed they stated that its purpose was to keep water out. So for those of us that submerge our vehicles often... fear not. If it fails due to water it's a bearing failure and hence covered by warranty!!!!!!!!
As for the grease, Robbie is going to use some type of grease that does not eat away the 'ferro-bestos' and will put everything back together. I'll let everyone know whether it makes noise after all is done.
GABE

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Jay S. on Monday, March 12, 2001 - 11:45 pm: Edit

Sure am glad I decided to do that clutch myself..... I haven't been too pleased with LR Austin either. Best of Luck, Jay & Lazarus '94 Disco

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By SG on Tuesday, March 13, 2001 - 11:33 am: Edit

Ahhh...this brings up another point. On Series Rovers, there is a drain hole (1/4" NPT) on the bellhousing and an adjacent bracket to hold the threaded plug. To go wading, you fit the plug....

On the R-380, there is a slot at the interface of the bellhousing and the engine. Has anyone come up with a good way to seal this up temporarily? I've used a strip of duct tape on occasion, but the location (lots of oiled surfaces) and temperature plus trail debris and splashing water doesn't make for a long useful life....

Cheers

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Gabe on Tuesday, March 13, 2001 - 01:06 pm: Edit

I know the slot like hole you're talking about... Have not thought of a way to seal it yet though.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Tom Proctor on Tuesday, March 13, 2001 - 01:38 pm: Edit

Sandy,

Just double-over a piece of foam weather stripping for a household door. You can pick-out the thickness that fills the void best. Leave about a 1/2 inch extending so you can pull it back out after the water crossings.

Tom
96 Disco

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Gabe on Tuesday, March 13, 2001 - 07:17 pm: Edit

Does anyone know where I can find a set of throw-out bearing retainer clips? LR Austin said that they don't use them since the bearing does not "go anywhere" when on the shaft... it makes sense but I'd feel more secure if they were installed.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By SG on Tuesday, March 13, 2001 - 09:01 pm: Edit

I haven't looked closely at the R-380 setup, but I have done at least three clutch jobs on the '72 - owned it since new and it's got over 250,000 miles.... Anyway, the 'retainer clip' is a plastic staple. No lie...lookes like a sprue from a plastic model kit. Amazingly cheap and insubstantial part...yet I've never heard of one failing....

Tom - *great* idea on the drain hole sealing, BTW

Cheers


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